-Dallen

Rob
The new stanchions are brass and I am painting them to look like  nickel silver with an aged patina they soldered up very nicely, by laying the handrail on its side and using the small block of Jellutong, it kept the top flat.
 

 

 

 
I am happy basically with the colour which was achieved with a mixture of Humbrol air frame silver and Humbrol unbleached linen. After all the wires are in place on the ship I will give it a scruffy coat of Microscale  Micro Flat. The handrail still need a little toning down.
 

 

 
The area at the end where the handrail steps up was difficult to thread and keep clean(smooth) One can only guess at the assembly sequence that was used long ago. I have decided to break this area up by using some of the original stanchions at the step. the next picture shows some short pieces of original wire threaded through two set stanchions, the third one is free at the moment once I have got the new section ready to place into the holes I can fettle the short wires to create the transition from the old to the new. and the stepped end of the handrail will fit over the top of the original type stanchions. These will be fixed with a drop of CA.
 

 
Michael

Thanks for all the visits to the log.
 
I set up the jig to solder the stanchions to the top rail
 
I set a piece of music wire through the top hole to align all the stanchions both longitudinally and vertically.
 

 
I used the rail as the template for drilling the holes I dropped a stanchion in each hole as they were drilled to ensure that there was perfect alignment
 

 
After the stanchions are soldered I can pull out the music wire and thread the nickel wire.
 
Michael
 

Nils the top handrail is brass that is painted.
 
Michael

Hello Bruce and welcome to the group. Don't be distracted by "Older Post" as you will find that they usually represent tried and true methods that are very relevant to the current discipline. Choosing to start with plastic or wood is entirely a personal choice. One thing to consider is your current arsenal of tools that can be used without a huge outlay of money until you decide which speciality (or both) to pursue.  Another idea is to browse the build logs and find something or a specific build  that you are interested in. That way you have an immediate resource to help guide you as everyone here is ready to assist you. Welcome aboard and happy modeling.

Again thanks for all the positive feedback and for the quiet visits. I set up the soldering area today and put all the broken ends back on the top handrail stanchions. I had a couple of minor issues but they will be solved fairly easily I think.
 
to recap this is what happened to the top handrail, it was bent over and 6 of the stanchions were broken at mostly the bottom rail.

 
I began adding the broken bottom parts of the handrail used the #4 tip
 

 

 
All 6 soldered on with a couple of these to add to my work.
 

 

 
Next task was to do a quick test fit
 

 
so I am relatively happy with the effort. Now to clean it up and fix the meltdowns.
 
Michael
 
 
 
 
 

Hi Michael,
You are correct.
 
As an X welder/fabricator Acetylene has carbon black in it when it burns. Propane is super clean. When I was a fabricator/drilling rig builder a guy turned me on to using propane and O2 for flame cutting with a torch. It doesn't burn as hot as Acetylene but you get hardly any slag and a super clean cut. I am 100% convinced you are going to love your set up. If you purchase the proper tips for your shop cutting torch you can get rid of acetylene and switch over to propane and cut your costs by more than half.
 
Your little torch would be right at home on my jewelers bench conversion. I know wishful thinking on my part. LOL
PS I hope the PDF I sent you helps with your build!
 
Jeff

Attached is a good article I found about silver soldering ... Jeff
 
soldering notes.pdf

Hi Gemma
They have a button on the page which shows the publications that are available in Anglais (English) - not all I'm afraid but very many and some of the most important..
Cheers Pete

I just ordered the La Belle Poule monograph from them in Wednesday evening 1/19 and only paid for the slow 5 Euro postage.  The book was shipped Thursday 1/19.  It arrived from France to Colorado a week later on Friday 1/27.  I ordered another book from them a year or so ago and it was shipped the next day and arrived within 10 days or so.
 
Erik

I have placed two orders directly to them. Takes very long to arrive but other than that not problems whatsoever. My second order was a (rather expensive ) book in Spanish which I had purchased years before in French  It was delivered in an unacceptable condition. I emailed them photos and a complaint. They never answered, but a few days later a brand new, plastic sealed book arrived. No questions asked, no returning of the damaged book asked. Very reliable company.

I ordered directly from their site. It is both in French and English. The language will not pose any problem. They do not deliver through retailers, just from their site. So not much choice in booksellers

Ordered few times from them - no problems, quick service, even in english!

No problem indeed, but allow them long(er) time to process your order. Also, as a rule, they don't speak English (or don't want to) and this, and other reasons, slow down delivery time to overseas, non- French speaking customers.

I am interested in purchasing a book published by Ancre Publications. The recently published book does not appear to be available from any of my usual US sources (Amazon, Alibris, etc.). I realize that Ancre is a reputable company but I have no experience with buying books from foreign sources and from them in particular.
 
Can anyone who has purchased books from them offer me any advice? Do they have a US dealer that either stocks their books or who can order from them?
 
Roger

Order directly from their website - very reputable and reliable company, and no problems with international postage.

Thanks for bringing this up. I did not want to paint my wales bright red. Red ocre is more like what I envision.
Thanks!

We have a good discussion of what red ochre is and where it comes from, not so clear the OP's original question was answered clearly. I have a similar issue in that I have two Admiralty Paints, crimson and red ochre. Allegedly the crimson is right for RN gunport sills and inner bulwarks, but it is an insanely bright and saturated red to my eye. I find it hard to believe they could make that red at the time, and if they could, whether it wouldn't have faded almost immediately. 
 
I mean a modern paint manufacturer would hem and haw if you wanted to paint your house this color and have it remain color stable.
 
So I am considering using the red ochre, this is going to be one of the few painted surfaces on the model, most of the rest is going to be stained/clear. In the end since I'm already violating correct color by not painting some of the surfaces, I'll use the color I want but like the OP I'm wondering what the color was that they really used and what it looked like 3 months after it was last painted.

It is important to keep in mind, which kind of pigments were available at a given time and which ones were cheap enough to be used on a ship. The palette of an artist has always been richer than what was used for such mundane tasks as painting ships.
 
Cadmium-based pigments are a 20th century invention. According to Wikipedia, the potential for the red and yellow Cd-oxides as pigments was recognised in the 1840s, but commercial quantities did not become available until around 100 years later. Today, Cd-based pigments are being phased out again due to the environmental concern over such dispersive uses (for the same reason Cd-based batteries are being phased out as well). However, Cadmium-Red and Cadmium-Yellow paints for artists do not necessarily contain Cd, but are close matches with other pigments.
 
In fact, I think the discussion on the exact hue/colour and trials are rather futile. While iron-oxide reds are rather stable pigments as such, the exact colour of the paint made with them depends on a number of factors, such as how many waters are in the crystal structure of the oxides, where they were sourced, what other components were used in the paint, etc. The best solutions would be to find an ancient recipe for making the respective paints. But even then, there could be significant variations. Also, until the middle of the 19th century, navies gave their commanders considerable leeway in the details of these matters and there was no centralised supply. Colours did not become standardised until after WW1, when for instance the German army began together with industry to develop a colour table that still is in use today, even outside Germany (the 'RAL' numbers).
 
So I would not get too worked up about this as long as you have a somewaht mute and slightly yellow-brownish red.

Another photo 
 

 

 

Completed, and as promised here are some outside pictures:
 

 
 
Here is my fleet
 

 
My newly seeded grass
 

 
This is what my dog plants in the grass for me
 

 
and what I picked up today, notice the one in the middle.....I didn't see it in time
 

 

 
 Well that is it for this log. Thanks to all who stopped by and I hope you all enjoyed
 
Time for more ship building
 

First up is Thanks Ian, Joe and Dave for your comments and Thanks to all for your likes
 
Well she is done and I can say I am impressed with the outcome.
 Towards the end of the build I was getting a lot of childhood memories of fishing at the river and the many trips I had made. It is with these memories I made the fishing poles as these are exactly what I used.
The first trip to the river every year you rode your bike with pockets full of line and hooks to the river. Upon arrival the next thing was to find a river willow branch to use as a pole, tie your line to it, wrap it around the branch add a hook and bobber and you were ready to fish. It was in reality the most primitive level of fly fishing you could imagine. Trying to cast the line, hook and bobber into the water without snagging trees, friends or anything else within a thirty foot radius was beyond challenging. Heck we had hook pierced ears and lips before it was cool.
 It was always my dream to have a little boat to get my hook to that “special” spot in the river, where it was impossible to get to from the shore. And with the Batelina being 4 meters long she would have been a virtual yacht in my eyes. Along with this thought was to have something to hold your poles while laying back and dreaming of something even bigger and better. Bigger and better really meant to have a real lure and not just a single hook with a worm on it, so I made a couple of those for my poles also.
 What you are looking at is what my childhood dream would have been. I mean really can you not imagine yourself in this little baby, laid back, fishing and no devices. Like I am talking about before eight tracks, vinyl was the king (and still is) and man only looked at the moon. Only thing I wanted to walk on was the muddy river bank and search for the lost Spanish gold (didn’t know back then there was no Spanish conquistadors in Canada  ), hey we were Indiana Jones before he was even born.
  Building the Batelina has brought back these memories for me and I hope that reading my log brings back some memories for you also.
Thank You All for stopping in,
Take Care 
 

 Drilling out and cutting off the rod holders, a job virtually impossible without a $1200 lathe  
 

 
The fishing poles and the start of the fish box, never really needed anything like this for fish, but you never knew when you might run into some treasure of sorts
 

 
As she sits now with poles, lures,holders, fish box, filleting knife and spare spool of line. The anchor is unsecured at the moment as I am waiting for some line coming from Syren.
 I want to get some outside pictures and will post them, but will have to wait until rain stops.
 
Later

Alright here is the last little bit for tonight, the making of the knightsheads, planking the bow and how I measure the planks. Then finally how she looks before the "final touches" which I will show tomorrow. 
 
 Have A good Night

Here I am showing the grating, the seat supports and the making of the oars. The only changes here was to add the cherry strips to the oars the seat and I also made the seat supports. The ones you will never see but what the heck

Squaring frames and fairing, only one frame needed minor adjustments, and adding support strips
 
 

 
Support strips added now planking frames and bulkheads
 

 
 The first of the changes of wood, here I am using cherry for the bottom. It is a flat bottomed boat. looks good and a real treat from the normal planking. I actually finished this and still wanted to do more, how often do you feel like that? Normally it is burn out and you are looking for a drink...........ok no burn out but I still had a drink .
 
 That's it for now I need to go outside to plant and cut grass. No the grass doesn't grow that fast, planting grass in garden area then it's cutting the existing 6 acres of grass. It's not that bad, I have a zero turn lawnmower that helps it go faster. The only problem is you need both hands to operate the lawnmower so no smoking or drinking, so for the next 4 hours I'll be health conscious.  
 More to come soon 

Hello all and welcome to my build log of the Batelina by MarisStella. I have just completed this kit that I started about 2 1/2 weeks ago and I will now show you the complete build. I decided to hold back on a log thinking it would save some time as I went along, and to give a complete log in a couple of days.
 I took on this build after seeing it being built in MarisStella's log here on MSW, and as all my other builds are months if not years from completion I wanted a "completion" in a short time so the Batelina fit that bill.
 If you are looking for a real bang for your buck this little kit has it all, the materials are excellent and the skills needed to complete her are far from the beginners level. She is a great little kit to practice your planking skills on and short of rigging and cannons has pretty much all the challenges of a full size ship just at a different level.
 The past couple of weeks have been a lot of fun building her and I have defiantly not only learned new skills but have also honed other ones. 
 I think anyone needing a break from the more complex builds in your life and looking for something on the lighter side this kit is your ticket. And, no, I am not a sales rep for MarisStella  
 The kit comes with walnut planks to complete the boat and although they were perfectly fine to use I decided to do a little changing and used cherry wood on some parts, and I also added some little extras( I think just to further stall from going to my other builds)
 
 

 
The contents picture is missing a couple of bundles of planks which I missed putting in picture
 
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  I am not sure why all these pictures turned out blue as they were taken outside. Test fitting the frames and transferring rabbet line to port side.
 

 
My daughter and granddaughter were not near as excited about boat building as me....???? go figure