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I am interested in purchasing a book published by Ancre Publications. The recently published book does not appear to be available from any of my usual US sources (Amazon, Alibris, etc.). I realize that Ancre is a reputable company but I have no experience with buying books from foreign sources and from them in particular.

 

Can anyone who has purchased books from them offer me any advice? Do they have a US dealer that either stocks their books or who can order from them?

 

Roger

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I have placed two orders directly to them. Takes very long to arrive but other than that not problems whatsoever. My second order was a (rather expensive ) book in Spanish which I had purchased years before in French  It was delivered in an unacceptable condition. I emailed them photos and a complaint. They never answered, but a few days later a brand new, plastic sealed book arrived. No questions asked, no returning of the damaged book asked. Very reliable company.

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I just ordered the La Belle Poule monograph from them in Wednesday evening 1/19 and only paid for the slow 5 Euro postage.  The book was shipped Thursday 1/19.  It arrived from France to Colorado a week later on Friday 1/27.  I ordered another book from them a year or so ago and it was shipped the next day and arrived within 10 days or so.

 

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Are the books all French language? Was looking at the Le Mecure mongoraph, tempted but I do not speak French!

Hi Gemma

They have a button on the page which shows the publications that are available in Anglais (English) - not all I'm afraid but very many and some of the most important..

Cheers Pete

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Thanks Pete, didn't spot that before, seems the mongraph I want is French only, but as half of it is plans and a future project will almost certainly require me researching Le Mecure, I guess it's still on the radar  :)  :)

I know how you feel - I don't think I have enough years left in me to finish one of Ed Tosti's Beautiful HMS Naiad - so I'm sorely tempted to go for L'Amarante being built here by Giampie.

 

The L'Amarante monogram is only available in Italian and French but I've just about convinced myself to buy it anyway as plans are plans and use Giampie's great build log here on site. That of course is after a 1/35 MTB for my brothers and my undertaking to restore my old Billings Norske Loeve.

 

Cheers Pete

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A few years back I researched the Blohm & Voss BV 138 flying boat. Most of the material was in German. It was less of a problem than I thought to be honest as I started to pick up what things were in the text quite quickly, I still remember a Querruder is German for aileron! As you say plans are plans, also illustrations still say a thousand words! Some of the common terms will make themselves clear too.  ;)

Don't tell me you are an ex "Plastic Tragic" too ;-) - Cheers Pete

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Thanks Guys!

 

The book that I am going to order is "The Ship's Longboat 16980- 1790. For a number of years I have been interested in building series models built to the same scale (1:32)'of warship's boats from different periods. I am well on my way to completing the third boat in the series, a Royal Navy Longboat based on a drawing published in May's warship boat book. Detailed information is hard to find so I was excited to find that Ancre has published this new book.

 

Roger

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No, I don't have a build log. I began the model before I joined the forum and at the moment the model looks pretty rough. I will try to post some material.

 

Many years ago, the company that I worked for was working on a joint bid with a Spanish company to supply piping assemblies for a power plant in Spain. The drawings were of course easy to understand but the specifications which of course we're in Spanish were not. We hired a translator from a local College to provide a translation but his results were unintelligible because he did not understand the engineering terms. I eventually found out that I could figure out what was going on by relating Spanish terms to the technology that I understood. For example it is easy to make the connection between "vapour" and "steam". I suspect that the same would be true for Ancre's books only available in French. Fortunately, my book is available in English and I was greeted this morning with an email asking which version that I wanted.

 

Roger

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I know how you feel - I don't think I have enough years left in me to finish one of Ed Tosti's Beautiful HMS Naiad - so I'm sorely tempted to go for L'Amarante being built here by Giampie.

 

The L'Amarante monogram is only available in Italian and French but I've just about convinced myself to buy it anyway as plans are plans and use Giampie's great build log here on site. That of course is after a 1/35 MTB for my brothers and my undertaking to restore my old Billings Norske Loeve.

 

Cheers Pete

Hello,

 

The monograph of L'Amarante is not an Ancre production, it can be found here, in its author / publisher web site.

 

GD

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Also remember Abe Books, which pulls together the stock of a zillion smaller booksellers. I bought my copy of Boudriot's French frigates book there at a reasonable price, and they had about 25 listed in several different printings and covers. I got the limited edition leather bound with nice paper because for some reason it wasn't more expensive than the non-special ones, and very happy I did so, paper and printing quality is as good as it gets.

 

 

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I bought their monographie Le Cerf, which is a nice cutter of the French Navy from the end of 17. century. The package included a small book of the ship and a set of very well drawn and accurate plans with 12 sheets, everything in English. There are some discrebances in the plans, but careful studying helps understanding them and avoiding mistakes. I am very pleased with the package, and the model of Le Cerf is progressing well:

 

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Are the books all French language? Was looking at the Le Mecure mongoraph, tempted but I do not speak French!

If you have to get one of the French monographs, ANCRE also sell a first-rate double-ended French-English dictionary of maritime terms ("A Marine Vocabulary") by David Roberts, who was Jean Boudriot's translator.

 

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The dictionary is well worth-while.  I'm used to reading technical reports in French, but the marine terminology is far from intuitive.  For instance, the French for mizzen mast is artemon, which is what we call  the foremast on Roman vessels, while the French for foremast is misaine !

 

 If you didn't know this, it would be easy to have the ship going backwards. :huh:

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The monographs give a good history of the ship and depending on the monograph, detailed plans with lots of notes on the ship's construction..   There's some monographs only suitable for solid hull as they don't have any below deck info.  Others, give you everything in the way of plans... including framing.   Note of caution..  these monographs are basically how the full size ship was built and are really not an instruction manual on "do this... do this next, etc."   

 

Having said all that... the monographs are definitely wonderful books for reading and great reference works.  

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The monograph assume that you already know the way the ships were built at that period, and they only cover specifics and nuances of a particular vessel. Also, it assumes you are already familiar with the terminology. They are very condensed and detailed descriptions of a very specific ship, basically a set of plans with a very detailed comments.

That would be impossible to understand without reading some more fundamental book first.

 

For a better background, one probably need to start with the 74 gun ship books, that are fairly costly: https://ancre.fr/en/ouvrages-de-base-en/9-vaisseau-de-74-canons-1780-traite-pratique-d-art-naval-1780-en-quatre-volumes-base-de-la-collection.html#/tome-the_74_gun_ship_1_english

Also, they only talk about the construction practice and history, no useful advices or hints for modellers. It simply describes how the real ships were built, and does not cover "how to build it with the tools we have in a small scale". 

 

For the better "entry" into the historically accurate construction it would be probably better to start with TFFM or Naiad books - they cover it step-by-step, with a lot of tricks and great illustrations. They also cover the nuances of modelling such ships in a great detail.

Of course, there were quite some differences between the way French and British ships were built, so for the first fully framed model it would be better to start with that books and a British ship. Simply because these books are more friendly than the French ones. 

 

TFFM: vol1: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=109004 vol2: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=109001

Naiad: vol1: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=112002 vol2: https://www.seawatchbooks.com/ItemDisplay.php?sku=113006

 

So far TFFM is my main point of reference and the first book I open if I have some question. I read that you already ordered one - you will not be disappointed :) 

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I picked up 3 volumes in English of the 74 gun ship when I was at the maritime museum in Brest. They didn't have all 4 volumes in English so I held off on one. I read all four when I was in university. My school had the two best nautical libraries I've ever seen. There were several monographs and books in the museum gift shop as well. I could have spent a lot more there if it wasn't for the Canadian dollar's value to the euro.

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I've purchased used books through Amazon. My experience has always been very pleasant. Books are usually almost new at 1/10th of the price. I'm about to receive 6 books purchased in this fashion. Will post details later in the What have you received today thread, but can tell you that I paid about 45 USD for all 6.

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