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  1. Hubac's Historian
    Excellent work on those plank lines.
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    Yeah, it all becomes a slippery slope in short order. But, I’m rooting for ya!
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    Here’s a thread on that very subject: Somewhere along the way, I also read that horse hair would be applied as a binder. So, yes, the white stuff would certainly obscure the planking strakes, if not completely obliterate them. You could fill most of what’s there and leave a few faint trace lines, here and there, to suggest the planking. Color, as these fine gentlemen note, would likely have been a dingy, yellowish white.
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    To be clear - I don’t think you would have to undo your wales, if you wanted to re-scribe plank lines. It’s just a lot if effort and it may not be worth it, frankly.
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    Fabulous is an understatement, here, Eric. I really love the graduation of the wales. It makes a big difference, and you have really nailed the sheer. Now, I’m going to preface what I’m about to say as a step or two too far for me, personally; it would be quite a lot of work for I’m not sure how much gain. However, in actual practice the planking strakes between the wales would follow the sheer of the wales. There, I’ve said the horrible thing. One COULD fill the kit plank lines at the point where they diverge from the sheer; mark out new plank lines with an ordinary drafting compass, following the wales; and then, very carefully engrave the new lines as they fair into the forward seams that you did not fill. This becomes exponentially more difficult for the complicated underwater portion of the hull. Personally, I don’t think I would do this. I think it depends, mostly, on what your paint plan is. However, if you are looking for some guidance as to how the under-hull of a ship like SR might be planked, I will direct you here: I talk about this model all the time because I love it so much. It is the best scratch-build of the ship that I am aware of. When I fantasize about doing another SR kitbash of this earliest representation of the ship - and your build has certainly dared me to dream - I imagine that I would do an all pale blue hull, with a thinned grey wash-coat. That wash-coat, though, would highlight all of the plank seams, and that dissonance with the wale sheer would be that much more apparent. As it builds out of the box, Heller failed to correctly represent the planking between the wales. At the bow, there are several thin sharply pointed plank lines that end into the wale sheer. It’s wrong, but the sheer is much flatter than what you are representing, here, so it doesn’t really jump out at you. Anyway, food for thought, or not, as you please. As for the listons d’or, I would gild these before applying them to the hull. It’s just easier. Personally, I think it is very difficult to get really good results with actual gold leaf. ‘72Nova’s La Reale build is a glittering example of the best possible results. I prefer paints and doing a layered gold with lowlights and highlights.
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    Hi Bill - I’m not speaking from a ton of experience here. I was 24 when I last rigged a model - rather poorly, by the way. My inclination would be to have all mast sections, tops and yards pre-made and rigged with all of their blocks. On my current build, I will have a combination of furled and un-furled sails. Those sails will all be attached to the yards, in advance. Because I don’t have any safely sheltered area to store the model, as it grows tall, my objective is to rig the model in a year or less. As for sequencing, I think the guiding principles are not making access too difficult for any one line with other lines previously installed, and also working in a way that allows the fore and back stays to always keep the masts straight and in-line with each other. Toward that end, I will probably install all of the lower masts first (shrouds, then fore-stays) working from the mizzen mast forward. This way, the main shrouds won’t make the setting up of the mizzen fore stay any more difficult than necessary. And so forth, working my way up the masts one section at a time. After all of the standing rigging is in place, I will attach the yards, and tackle all of the running rigging. Of course, the biggest un-resolved issue with that approach is how to rig the parrels, with the shrouds in the way. I’m definitely open to suggestions.
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    Ultimately, I decided to make cap-squares for all of the main deck guns. With black construction paper and CA applied with a sharpened tooth pick, the process was relatively straight-forward, if a little time-consuming. I used my new bent-nose tweezers to massage the paper into the glue, and to snug into the trunnions. The glue wicks into the paper and polymerizes it. Truly, paper is an underrated modeling material. The added benefit is that the black construction paper has some tooth to it that approximates the scale appearance of wrought iron. In other words - it’s not a very fine surfaced paper. I’d be lying if I said that it didn’t bother me at all that I did not really address the raised trunnion mounting blocks on the carriage cheeks. Naturally, with this much scraping of glue and general handling, there is going to be a round or two of paint touch-ups. At first, I was going to re-touch the red around these silly trunnion blocks. I had a eureka moment, though, and realized that I could paint those blocks black and they would blend into the cap-squares. I experimented on the less visible guns, and liked what I saw (guns, right): This may be a slight exaggeration of the scale of the cap-square irons, but at best - the carriages are mostly viewed from above. What you will see is a straight red line delineating the top of the carriage cheeks. I decided not to paint the paper cap-squares, themselves, because I did not want to lose that wonderful texture: All-in-all, I think this turned out to be a fairly elegant work-around to a lot of extra work that I wasn’t interested in doing. Next step: mount and rig the guns. As ever - thank you for your continued interest.
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    All of the extra tabbing along the interior joint will serve you well. I like your idea to thin the ApoxieSculpt and massage it into the joints. Just thinking ahead, you may have the opportunity to raise your waterline up to maybe mid-way of the lowest wale. The waterline should be 4.5 - 5’ scale feet below the lowest gun port, which works out to 9/16” - 5/8” in 1:96. This will be an easy enough thing to pencil onto the hull after the hull-halves have been glued together.
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    Kevin - would not most of Victory’s guns have been iron?
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    Today, my son is home, sick, and so I stayed home with him. This will afford me a few hours to assemble guns, while otherwise enjoying a lazy afternoon. Painting of the barrels came out well. The Citadel ver-de-gris wash is a little tricky to use. Unless you are depicting the centuries-old guns currently on display at the Palais des Invalides, then you are going to want to dilute the wash-coat. I like to use a medicine dropper to do this because it is easier to keep track of ratios that are repeatable. I think I ended up at a 50/50 mix, cut with common tap water. Despite thinning, the wash coat does dry almost immediately, and it is almost impossible to avoid lap lines with a brush. I do think a bristle brush is the best applicator - as opposed to an airbrush - because you can draw color into and out of crevasses, thus modulating the effect. After everything has dried, I use a Q-tip, covered with a t-shirt scrap to burnish each barrel, and minimize the lap-lines. Particularly stubborn laps can be further softened with a well-worn SOFT toothbrush. In the light of day, this degree of oxidation looks about right to my eye: As for assembling, I have a small, round needle file that I use to clear paint from the trunnion blocks. I scrape paint away from the undersurface of the trunnions, as well as the quoin and the cascabel rim, where these two surfaces meet. I will add cap-squares, at least to the fully visible carriages. If the process is not too tedious, I will do so for the rest of the main deck guns; it’s just a little extra bond-insurance to safeguard against guns breaking free of their carriages. So, little by little. Catch as catch can. We are getting there! Thank you for stopping by.
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    In addition to the audaciousness of the build-concept, what I love about watching this all unfold is your personal journey of discovery into scratch-work. Any heavily scratched project, considered in its whole, seems absolutely daunting. In reality, though, it’s just a long series of mini-builds that aggregate into the finished thing. All it takes are patience, time, and commitment to an ideal of the finished project. You have all of those qualities in spades, Eric.
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    Huge help, Dan! The problem with rigging is precisely that there aren’t any substantive modeling technique books out there, so one finds themselves in a vast grey area of looking through better build logs along with their own experimentation. In his books, Philip Reed details some of his rigging technique, but owing to small scales, that is often accomplished with wire. As you said the other night - most of what a really good model requires isn’t complicated, but it is helpful to understand the best simplifications for the sake of whatever scale you are working in. You have my vote, Dan; by all means, please write that book!
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    For this model, I will buy my rope. The prospect of making all the rope this project will require, in all the many sizes does not interest me.
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    In response to reading through my travails of researching and learning basic rigging techniques, Dan Pariser offered to give me a first-hand tech session of the various tools, materials and techniques that he employs in his own professional work. As is always the case, this was time well-spent. Immediate takeaways: - The helping hands vise with a retro-fitted hardware store spring for tension is an absolute game changer. Intuitively, this is common-sense, but actually using the device makes it crystal-clear how medieval my previous efforts really were. Welcome to the enlightenment! - Speaking of which, a simple magnifying visor really helps to ease eye-strain - particularly for fools like me who are still stubbornly resisting the very real need for transition lenses. - Buying a box of small CA gel tubes is a wise investment. - Along those lines - small disposable paper cups, like the ones you would use to stock a water cooler, are the perfect elevated platform for you to place a dollop of your gel CA. I had been using small squares of tin foil, but it’s easy to lose sight of the glue spot and/or stick the foil to your hand when you aren’t paying strict attention. - One really should accustom themselves to using bent-nose tweezers for their rigging processes. Self-evident, I know, but I have a tendency to make due with whatever I have laying about. I am usually working way too hard. - Common, round tooth picks are the perfect CA applicators. So, Dan showed me a variety of approaches to stropping a block, either with or without hooks. What was especially fascinating was the interplay between polished line (free of whiskers) and either embroidery thread or fly-tying line for seizings. Embroidery thread, because it has a lay, will grab onto the polished line, while fly-tying line is more prone to slipping. This can make it difficult to advance the seizing. To counteract this, when using fly-tying line, one might begin the seizing with a Lark’s Head knot, and then reversing both leads in the counter-direction, in order to cinch the knot tight: https://howdidyoumakethis.com/larks-head-knot/ Another important take-away was to begin the seizing at the distance away from the block that you wish the seizing’s length to be. With each successive wrap, the seizing grows tighter as it nears the block. Lastly, a perfectly serviceable and long-lived serving machine can be made for a mere hardware store pittance: As soon as I got home, I now found it incredibly easy to make hook strops for my 2mm double blocks: Right now, I’m in the process of painting all of the main deck guns. Their bores have been blacked-out. I have learned from my earlier experience with the lower main deck guns to always keep the gun barrels separate from each other during the painting process. This is especially true for the next step, which is the Citadel ver-de-gris wash. I’ll have a bit of a tedious touch-up process for those lower deck guns, much later in the build. The cascabels are still white, here, because I am using that end to hold the barrel while I brush on the Citadel dark bronze. I haven’t tried to airbrush this paint, but I suspect that the metallic flake would make it a poor candidate for air-brushing. Once painted, I’ll join the barrels to their carriages. I’ll add cap-squares with CA and strips of black construction paper. Then, I’ll glue the guns down and attach the breaching ropes and tackles. Dan showed me quite a bit more about knotting techniques and other rigging tips, but I will discuss those things as the build necessitates them. Thank you so much, Dan! And thank you all for looking-in!
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    I don’t think I have ever seen anything quite like this. It’s like a fine rasp, but with an adhered abrasive?
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    I’m a little confused: carbide abrasive coated paper, or carbide abrasive coated metal? Forgive me if that is a foolish question.
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    Yes, because this early period in the development of the French navy - before the widespread use of plans - interests me so much, I am constantly searching for contemporary portraits that give an overall sense of line, proportion and decor.
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    Alex, your log is wholly unique to the site and a pleasure to read, with marvelous works that both inspire and amaze. It is really fascinating to see the progression of your carving skills, through your earlier vessels like L’Ambiteaux, Le Francoise, etc. The detail has always been there, but there is now a lightness and animated quality to the work that is really extraordinary. It’s such a vague and indeterminant quality to describe or quantify, but you have certainly achieved it. Here would be a fun, never before modeled winged project; Puget’s exuberantly ornamented Le Paris of 1668 (later renamed and redecorated as La Royal Therese): And as the Royal Therese:
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    Very cool tip, Siggi!
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    Mark - beautiful progress, as always. I like your approach to constructing the quarters. You are so good at getting the complex geometry right. As you work your way up the quarters, you might find some useful ideas in Siggi’s Tiger build, beginning with post #1003, page 34. Like you, Siggi is brilliant with the smallest details:
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    Thank you all for your likes and kind comments. As was the case with the chains, I’ve been experimenting and taking my first baby steps with rigging techniques. Specifically, I’ve been learning to strop 2mm single blocks for my main deck haul-out tackles. As I mentioned in an earlier post, I will not use scale rope for these, as the line gauge is fine enough to get away with much cheaper thread, of which I have an abundant supply. Abundance is what I have needed, here, because I have tried a number of different approaches to both minimize any space between the hook and block, while also stropping the block in a neat and tidy fashion. I was really struggling on that front. And, that’s when I decided to consult with two of my favorite plastics builders: Michael D and Daniel Fischer. Both are outstanding at creating very correct looking rig, using ingenious technique in relatively small scales. I need 24 of these single block tackles for the visible guns that will be rigged. I had made 9 that were variously unsatisfactory. Dan’s Victory log is particularly illustrative of small things I could do to achieve better results. Initially, I was using two overhand knots (alternating from one side to the other), with the finest linen thread I posses, in order to strop the hooks. With a spot of CA, and the help of a simple pin jig to hold the block, I’d center the hook on the block and smooth the line into the groove until the CA set. Then, I’d use the same linen thread and an alternating overhand knot technique to seize below the block. A spot of CA seals the seizing and I nip the excess clean. This was my best result using this technique: It’s okay, but I wasn’t really happy with it. From Daniel, I realized I could secure the hook with one overhand knot and then secure at the top of the block, as before. Now, while Dan often employs the alternating knot technique for simple seizings, he often uses fly-tying thread which, I am given to understand, flattens out as you wrap it. Dan’s simple seizings look great, and I think the flattening aspect of this type of line is the key. So with those tips in mind, I tried again. Using a binder clip to keep the strop ends taught, I found that I could do a single overhand knot close to the block, followed by six conventional wraps to get a seizing that looked proportional: Now, I will be buying a set of alligator hands, as Dan Pariser previously suggested. I will also pick up some fly-tying line to experiment with. For the time being, though, this is both manageable and repeatable. Here is a side by side comparison: Now that I have an approach that I like, I dipped all of the previous tackles in acetone, so that I could salvage my blocks and hooks: Any remaining glue residue brushes away with an old tooth brush. Well, it isn’t much, but it is progress of a sort and I feel good about it. Thank you all for looking in!
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    As good and better, in fact, than full-size practice.
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    Daniel posted this link in his Victory log of the Texel Roads diorama. Many wonderfully detailed photos of ships being worked. What is very evident to me are the design parallels between these early Dutch ships of the 1660’s and their French counterparts, often designed by naval architects with Dutch training backgrounds, like Laurent Hubac: https://www.modellmarine.de/index.php/fotogalerien/178-/1624-die-reede-von-texel-teil-2 The head structure, the pronounced tumblehome, steep sheer, broad sterns - it is all there. The draft and underwater lines would of course be different, in order to navigate the more shallow Dutch coastal waterways.
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    Hi Bill - what Shipaholic has shown, here, is essentially what I was talking about, it’s just set-up above the foredeck. I would go with that
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    What you have done to raise the steve and create the appearance of piercing the fore deck looks more plausible than a butt-ended bowsprit nestled between the fore bitts. The end of a bowsprit, in actual practice for sea-going ships, usually had a square tenon that keys into a heavy balk of timber (itself, secured between the lower legs of the fore bitts), before the foremast. With your present arrangement, I can at least believe something like that is happening below deck.

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