Ondras71

Nereid's wooden stern light.

Unmolding of the two spears.

Edging of the planking of the two lances.

Hard to say, the sailing control unit with its 24 bracing winches, plus 24 gear transmission winches will take some time - then the cannons have to be fitted, the mechanism to open the gun ports and deploy them, retract them will be another major effort!
 
Smaller things will be creating the lead ballast, and the Arduino cannon firing software.

Next year is likely the earliest manageable 🙂

I have added the flags - bought at http://www.schiffsmodellflaggen.de. I'm quite happy with the quality, waterproof (this being a remote controlled model), and a thin fabric, which flows even with light winds.
Instructions came with the flags how to cut them out, and glue them - had been quite a while, since I had a pressing iron in my hand 😄
 
The flags come in different sizes, not for all flagpoles was I able to get the precise historic size to scale - this is due to our unusual scale of 1:26.67, I assume. Still, I'm happy with the results!
 

 

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The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Back deck wall done..

After waxing, placed on the gun deck, secured with pegs in two wheels..

Restraint ropes created..


..and guns placed on deck..
 



Add hoists and place cannons below deck..👌
 
 

Thank you shipmodel. Bad translation. This is just below deck. O.



 

Thank you very much Gary!
 
I created the wheelhouse..



I started making ropes from thin Sajou threads. On the old ropewalk with a low-quality ride, the rope made mistakes for me. So I modified the entire ropewalk..


And now it's about something else!!

The hoists of the main mast have been completed with new ropes, they will now go below deck..
 

Now I can close the wall of the rear superstructure..
 



 
 

Made stairs..




Ramshead pulleys made for Halyard Knightheat posts..


Next work aft deck wall..


And a supply of Small staghorn harnesses..


 
 
 
 

Decorative S attached to the stern..
 


Work on the inner railing, the supporting centers of the posts made of steel pins..
 



Waxed..
 


Capstan already placed under the deck, using a previously created jig..
 

Railing done..
 

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Hello modeling friends.
The model is planed according to the plan drawings of Gerard Delacroix, Le Fleuron 1729.
Scale: 1/60, Wood: Elsbeere (Sorbus torminalis).
I will build the model as "La Charpente", as shown in picture 0.01.
i.e. only the carpentry / joinnery,
without interior fittings and carving of the exterior.
 
Karl
 
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Guess I should give an update on this project. I've gotten the planking started above the wales. Gotten the bulwark bulkheads shaved down so the cap rails aren't too thick and started inner bulwark planking. Also got a start on the cabin. More updates to come. I'm not a fast builder

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Back deck wall done..

After waxing, placed on the gun deck, secured with pegs in two wheels..

Restraint ropes created..


..and guns placed on deck..
 



Add hoists and place cannons below deck..👌
 
 

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Thanks for the likes..
 
The model is placed on a baroque stand...
 



Cannon goals set up. Created an imitation of cable entanglement..
 


The first cannon goals in place..
 



And arranged more..

Thank you for the like!
 
I made blocks for cannon hoists. Training kept under deck..


Hoists ..


Cannons arranged and placed in the transport position..👍
 



Glued grating, these I have to grind with the deck, to this created a "box" that prevents contamination of works..
 

The base of the aft deck..

I'm learning to work with a ropewalk. It's really about testing. Catch weight weights and skill.. The first ropes and anchor cable Gutermann ..💥

First I have to create ropes for the cannons, which will already be placed under the aft deck.


I study in detail and only now do I understand that the "rope" is braided only once from 3x32 threads .. Then the anchor "cable" is braided from three prepared ropes..
After the first twisted ropes, I confirmed that the Dutch ships had, against the English, all the ropes turned to transport, even stays. This is confirmed in publications by Ab Hoving, such as "The Ships of Abel Tasman" and on replicas of Batavia and Duyfken..😱
So I used the table of the Czech modeler marsalva, to whom I would like to thank very much for the information, because the system dropped my trial and I don't have to invent the invented ones,
For a 3x1 rope, which is braided from three clockwise threads, the threads must first be turned to the left, elongated by 3.6 percent and then pre-spun to the left to form a clockwise thread.
During this, I ran the threads several times between my fingers and the resulting cable, which is more hairy, went through the flame of the candle and the resulting cable P 3x1 with a thickness of 0.37 mm is great !!💯

This is a rehash of much I have found on the forum and possibly some new information. I have seen discussion of how to model the rigging of carriage guns, with lots of speculation. I hope to condense this a bit here.
 
Here are some drawings of British and American gun tackle and breeching lines. The breeching lines are attached to ring bolts on the bulwarks and are attached to the cascobels at the rear of the cannon. In some cases they are wrapped around the cascobel as shown at the left. Sometimes they were attached with a cut splice that fit around the cascobel, as shown at the right.  Later guns had a breeching ring cast into the barrel above the cascobel, and the breecing line passed through it. The breeching line stopped the recoil of the gun when it was fired, preventing it from crashing about the deck. It was roughly 1/3 the diameter of the shot, and was long enough (3 times the length of the cannon bore) to allow the cannon to move about a foot or two inboard of the bulwark to give the gun crew room to swab and load the cannon. There were very specific methods of attaching the breeching lines to the bulwark ring bolts, normally using seizing of small line wrapped around the breeching line.
 


 
The gun tackle (outhaul tackle) hooked to a ring bolt on the bulwark, and hooked to a ring bolt on the gun carriage. The gun tackle was used to haul the gun out to the battery (firing) position after it was loaded. This tackle for larger guns consisted of a single block hooked to the gun carriage and a double block hooked to the bulwark. Smaller guns might just use two single blocks. A "loose end" (pun intended) in the descriptions of the gun tackle is what to do with the falls (loose ends) of the tackle? The line leading from the block attached to the bulwark had to be long enough for the gun crew to grab. Then when the gun was hauled to battery and the blocks came together, more line, 3-4 times the longest distance between the blocks when the gun was in the loading position, was pulled out of the tackle - that is a lot of line. Typically drawings just show the falls going off somewhere. What did they do with all of that line?
 

I have seen four variations for dealing with the gun tackle falls. The picture on the left above shows the loose ends "frapped" (wrapped) around the tackle. However, most of the falls was taken up by looping it a few times through the rings on the hooks at the bulwark and gun carriage, with the remaining part frapped around the bundle of lines. This would have been used to secure the guns when they weren't being used, in port or at sea. Note the breeching loop cast into the rear of the cannon.
 
The picture right above shows the end of the falls "Flemished" in a tight spiral on the deck. Many models use this method because it is a simple way to deal with the loose ends. However, on real ships this was done for show only, during inspections or ship visiting days. There is no way this would have been used at sea! The loose ropes would be scattered all over the deck, and this was not good!
 

 
Another way to secure the gun tackle loose ends that I have seen was to belay the line around cleats or belaying pins on the bulwarks. This would be a "ready stowage" solution to keep the ropes from flopping around the decks and getting tangled while approaching a battle. But it could also be used when the guns were secured. Another method was to just roll the line into a lose coil and place it on the deck near the bulwark block. Again, this would have been a temporary stowage while preparing for battle.
 
In battle the falls would have been pulled taut straight back from the block along side the cannon by the side tacklemen, and perhaps faked down on deck for long falls. When the gun was fired the line ran cleanly through the block - the tackle absorbed some of the recoil momentum. Note: Not everyone is happy with this explanation - see the references below to support my reasoning.
 
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The training tackle (inhaul tackle)  was similar to the gun tackle. It hooked to a ring bolt at the rear of the gun carriage and to another ring bolt mounted in the deck some distance behind the gun.  The training tackle was used to haul the gun back inboard to the loading position. Some ships used a single training tackle, others used two training tackles (only the heaviest guns >= 36 pounders had two training tackles), and you often see pictures and drawings where no training tackle is used. What did they do with the training tackle when it wasn't being used? Apparently it was stowed with all the other gun handling gear, often on the bulwarks between the guns, at least while they were preparing for battle. When the guns were secured all the loose paraphernalia was probably stowed below.
 

 
This drawing shows a Continental (French, Dutch, etc.) style gun. First note that the breeching line passes through a hole in the gun carriage, and it does not attach to the cannon. It serves the same function, to stop the recoil, and it must be long enough to allow the gun to move inboard at least 1/3 meter for loading.
 
The drawing shows the gun in a stowed position with the end of the barrel raised (with the quoin removed) and pulled tightly against the top of the inside of the gun port. This was common in all navies, but there were probably as many variations as there were ships. The tackle was used to draw the gun tight against the bulwark, and lines were frapped to take up slack. Chocks were also used to secure the gun. The last thing you wanted was a loose cannon rolling around the decks in heavy seas!
 
 
 
The answers to many of these questions are found in Ordnance Instructions for the Unites States Navy (1860) which can be downloaded here:
 
https://archive.org/details/ordnanceinstruc00ordngoog
 
Gun and train tackles were not removed before the gun was fired (pages 45 -47)! Up to the Ready/Fire commands the side tacklemen held the falls taut. At the command "fire!" side tacklemen dropped the tackle and falls and let them run to slow the recoil. The train tacklemen pulled on the falls to take up the slack as the gun recoiled, and then held the gun until it was loaded. However, the train tackle could be unhooked before firing in calm seas and then attached after recoil.
 
Note: The text describes when the gun tackles are hooked to the bulkheads and to the rings on the gun carriage, and which of the gun crew does each task. It never mentions unhooking the gun tackle until the gun is to be secured and stowed. In the drawing below the gun tackles and training tackles are attached in the firing position.
 
The gun was pointed by hauling it in to the extent allowed by the breeching line, and then one or the other side tackle was hauled in to swing the gun left or right (page 46). Here is a diagram showing pointing, firing and loading:

Breeching must be long enough to allow the gun to clear the gun port at least one foot when hauled fully inboard. Neither breeching nor tackle can be blackened or treated in any other way that reduces flexibility. They are to be made of manila or another pliable rope. (page 150).
 
I haven't read it all, but I couldn't find any description of how the gun tackle falls were to be secured/stowed when not in use. However, at the command "cast loose" the tackles were to be removed from stowage and then hooked to the bulwark and gun carriage. So maybe they were not hooked to the guns while they were stowed? Or were the frapped tackle considered "stowed?"

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As far as placement of the ring bolts for the gun tackle on the bulwarks, the diagram above shows the attachment points spaced far from the gun port to allow a significant angle of pull on the tackle for pointing the gun. But most photos and drawings do not show them as widely spaced as in the drawing above. I have also see (somewhere) a drawing showing double ring bolts for the train tackle on the bulwarks, on each side of the gun port, spaced fairly close together, in case one bolt fails.
 
In the description of how to point the gun it says the gunners used the handspikes to lever the gun left/right to assist the tackle. So it wasn't necessary for the gun tackles to be spaced widely as shown in the diagram above. The tackle could be used to hold and fine tune the point. The handspikes were also used to raise the breech to free the quoin so it could be repositiond to change the gun elevation.
 
One other detail I had been wondering about - the port tackle (for the gun port lid) was secured to a cleat on the inner top of the gun port. The door/lid was to be raised high to prevent damage from the blast of the gun. After each shot the port lids might be closed to provide protection for the gun crews while they were reloading.
 
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There is a lot of useful information in this document. It was written in 1855 and amended in 1860, but gunnery practices probably had not changed much in centuries except as new gun types were introduced. The referenced text describes practices for smooth bore muzzle loading guns.
 
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I hope this is helpful, and that it will stimulate further discussion.
 

Back deck wall done..

After waxing, placed on the gun deck, secured with pegs in two wheels..

Restraint ropes created..


..and guns placed on deck..
 



Add hoists and place cannons below deck..👌