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    Timmo reacted to Beef Wellington in HMS Jason by Beef Wellington - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Artois-class frigate modified from HMS Diana 1794   
    Hi Folks,
     
    Sadly been rather absent from both the shipyard and this site for some time.  I very much hope to catch up soon on everyone else's fine builds here soon.  Time to get a little more up to date, the cutter is pretty close to completion aside from a little fettling.
     
    Frames were added to the interior using strips cut from some scrap 0.5mm pear wood.  These were soaked and pre-bent in situ prior to gluing with PVA:
     

     
    The frames were further reduced down to the keel former to try and get a bit more depth the boat.  To my eye, applying planking to the false deck puts the board too high, especially as there is very little room to play with considering the various structural elements still to go on. A template for the footwaling was then made up to determine the shape.  Once the placement was determined, the rising plank was added (again cut from some 0.5mm pear sheet)
     
    I wanted to try and allow the footwalling to have an element of curvature which would be natural on the real boat.  A relatively straightforward way to achieve this was to apply wood strip to thin card to match the template which maintains a lot of flexibility (Straight strip was used rather than the more complicated curved planking on the plan).  Once dry, the assembly was easily glued on top of the keel former, the footwaling then follows the interior curve naturally.  
     

     
    With those element in place, it was possible to add the platform under the sternsheets.  The Diana plans show these as a grating, but to my eye again the kit supplied grating is too large, so plain boards were installed instead which also appear to be used.  After the main and fore mast steps, thwarts and ringbolts I assume would be used for hoisting the boat had been added, the bow was closed in using a cover as suggested on the plan - this also helped disguise the rudimentary construction at the bow.  The rowlocks were cut, interestingly these are not symetrical between port and starboard, and one seems to sit rather awkwardly in the sternsheets.

     
    The sternsheets were made up and installed, again having used a template to finalise shape, together with all the other details including mast thwarts, gunwale and knees.

     
    The colour scheme follows a slightly simplified version of that shown below which seems suitably utilitarian.  Looking at this, and comparing once the black was applied, suggests to me that I made a mistake in the tapering of the clinker planking.  The black area covers both the wash strake and upper strake, and judging from these pictures it appears that these are of somewhat consistent in width, especially toward the stem.  I had tapered these proportionally as well, hoping nobody else notices...
     



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    Timmo reacted to Chuck in HMS Winchelsea 1764 by Wacom - FINISHED - 1:48   
    She looks fantastic.  You should be quite pleased with that.  Very nice and clean model you have.  I will note that you will need to turn the model upside down one more time to drill and file out the rudder opening hole in the lower counter.  You might want to remove the Lantern for that.  I also have a newer design coming for the lantern that is made entirely out of Boxwood so no painting is needed.   It is slightly different than the one you used.   Just in case that one might get damaged.  I was going to leave that until much later in the project.  It makes me nervous just looking at it.  Here is the prototype for the improved "all boxwood" lantern.  The windows are just .015 thick.
     


     
     
     
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    Timmo reacted to SJSoane in HMS Bellona 1760 by SJSoane - Scale 1:64 - English 74-gun - as designed   
    HI Gary, doesn't it feel good to be ahead of Wikipedia!🙂 And by the way, I was pointed by Alan (AON) to your posting on your stove, which I haven't looked at for some time. You did an an outstanding job on that, an inspiration!
     
    A small update, but important to me. I finally installed both the spirketting and the quickwork on the port side of the bow. The quickwork was challenging, in having to fit between two existing pieces, with no room to maneuver, while at the same time dealing with constantly clamping to the curve as I tried to fit it. But it came out OK, including scribed planking you can just see. I have also temporarily put in the hawse hook, just to see the area where the hawse holes will finally come through. A couple of routed rabbets provide slots for the spirketting and quickwork to slide behind the hook while still leaving a surface for the hook to butt directly against the frames for a positive gluing connection.
     
    Mark
     

     
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    Timmo got a reaction from Beef Wellington in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    go on then, another one...
    The ominous torpedo ballast keel is visible when in the pool, unlike local lakes etc. I'm interested to see whether Enterprise's greater hull capacity and bouyancy will allow a bit more internal ballast and something that will be less yacht-like underneath her. 

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    Timmo got a reaction from Kingspoke in HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 by Timmo - FINISHED - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64   
    Channels unvarnished but pinned on.
    There are elbow brackets that sit on the tops of the main channels that are provided in the kit as photo etch but it simply looks too thin so they will be fabricated out of kit walnut. Probably ply with the laminated surfaces painted.
    There's also a couple of pedestal brackets on each side to sit on the main channels.

    Building beer of the day is a Black Duck Porter from Hawkes Bay Independent Brewery. A London style porter with some decidedly chocolate and coffee tones and possibly a hint of smoke. Nice but a bit syrupy so one is certainly enough.
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    Timmo got a reaction from HardeeHarHar in HM Bomb Vessel Granado 1756 by Timmo - FINISHED - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64   
    I can't be the only member of MSW seeing the irony in wishing I had an easier to obtain and cheaper source of boxwood for the next project as I hack my way through piles of buxus semperverins hedge every spring...

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    Timmo got a reaction from Deperdussin1910 in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    Thanks Jerry. That's really helpful. I'm not the first to want to make an Enterprize go then! Ah well. 
    That's a really nice rendition he's got there and very stable in the water. My Harrier still bobs and heels a lot more than I'd like but I can't really ballast her any further as she's a little lower in the water than accurate. 
    By my maths on his comments about frame width his Enterprize might be close in size to mine.  Interesting he seems to do well with what appears to be all masts rotating together rather than an independant foremast. He gets some massive rotation angle so that's likely the secret there.
    Anyways... The sideways servo mounting you mention could be worth me revisiting when I get back to it as I hear what you say about the reduced slack. Harrier's braces work surprisingly well as horizontals with some rudimentary line guides, enough tension on the lines and equal rotation off and onto the drum through even distances to each side of the yard.
    Plenty to think about there.   
    I suspect I won't catch up to you before Macedonian is on the water and under her own power.
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    Timmo got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    Thanks Jerry. That's really helpful. I'm not the first to want to make an Enterprize go then! Ah well. 
    That's a really nice rendition he's got there and very stable in the water. My Harrier still bobs and heels a lot more than I'd like but I can't really ballast her any further as she's a little lower in the water than accurate. 
    By my maths on his comments about frame width his Enterprize might be close in size to mine.  Interesting he seems to do well with what appears to be all masts rotating together rather than an independant foremast. He gets some massive rotation angle so that's likely the secret there.
    Anyways... The sideways servo mounting you mention could be worth me revisiting when I get back to it as I hear what you say about the reduced slack. Harrier's braces work surprisingly well as horizontals with some rudimentary line guides, enough tension on the lines and equal rotation off and onto the drum through even distances to each side of the yard.
    Plenty to think about there.   
    I suspect I won't catch up to you before Macedonian is on the water and under her own power.
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    Timmo got a reaction from piter56 in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    Work has moved to the hull. 
    The frames have been drawn up and cut out.

    These are still solid at present but will have the middle cut out to leave a hollow frame. This will contain the cambered gun deck line.  On Harrier I did the same but ended up replacing them with stronger timber deck beams, especially around the hatches. I might do the same here but having the floor leave on ply is helpful for showing the level.
    the deck is shown marked in red above. It’s about 5mm below the actual level to account for the 3mm false deck and then planking on top of that.
     
    Here are the frames stacked up.

     
    Fitting in the RC gear has been a big consideration of the build.
    there is more internal space than harrier but the added complexity of a quarterdeck and also gun deck that needs to be pierced to make it accessible.
     
    While spreading the servos out is possible it would also mean more hatches for access with the difficulty of getting through two decks. 
    Some wooden servo blanks were made 
     

     
    This is also gives an idea of what controls Enterprise will have. All are drum style sail winches with the exception of the spanker, which is a simple arm, as per Harrier. That worked well so I’m not going to change it up now.

     
    There will be a single large access hatch the size of the centre of the gun deck from just fore of the mainmast to just short of the main bitts.
    this means fewer holes in the hull and less waterproofing trouble.  Most of the control lines travel up the main and foremast so are within easy reach. The exceptions are the lines for the spanker and rudder, which will run through pre installed guide eyelets or pulleys below deck and be accessible at a stretch with tools. Harrier’s rudder has surprisingly needed no maintenance to date so I’m hoping for the same with Enterprise, but at worst the removal of one rear servo should allow plenty of room to get an arm in. 
     
    The stem and keel have been has been cut.

     
    A bearding line was continued up the stem for planks to slot into. Also joint lines were scribed in. This is largely one piece of timber, with just a 10mm extension epoxied on. It’s very strong and will get more so once planking and other parts tie it together. 

     
    Recent work has involved cutting and test fitting the stern timbers for the gallery etc. that’s where things really get complex. 
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from garyshipwright in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    go on then, another one...
    The ominous torpedo ballast keel is visible when in the pool, unlike local lakes etc. I'm interested to see whether Enterprise's greater hull capacity and bouyancy will allow a bit more internal ballast and something that will be less yacht-like underneath her. 

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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    With not much else to do outside working from home hours, and even during a few of those hours in quiet times.... lots of sticks have been made.
     
    The mainyard at bottom is 630mm long and 13.5mm wide. It was getting a little tricky eaking out the limited floorboard timber stocks on somthing this size without nail holes and knots.  On Harrier I used fibreglass rod for the t'gallant yards for durability but they don't seem to have needed it so these are all timber. Some of the smaller ones have been left slightly overscale, more for the fact that they'll need to take a brass pin through the centre down the track and Harrier has taught me that on large items like masts and yards, slightly larger scale for the sake of functionality is almost impossible to see once it's on the water.
     

     
    Sling and other cleats have been added.
     

     
     
    The jaws of the driver boom and gaff are fibreglassed ply as per the fighting tops with lead foil 'iron' bands. There's also the first of the ship's many sheaves in the end of the driver boom. This is a little turned brass item from RB Models of Poland. There's quite a few left over from Harrier.

     

     
    Here's Enterprise with her sticks...

     
    Given the extremities of the masts and the jib boom are fibreglass they needed to be painted to match the varnished timber of the masts.  They were sprayed an off-white colour called 'lace' and some yellow ochre oil paints with a little flat white humbrol was mixed up and brushed on lengthways, allowing brushstrokes and a little of the undercoat showing through to roughly resemble a subtle wood grain.
     

     
    Here's the result with the fibreglass jib boom at top and the wooden bowsprit it's mounted on. It's a little brighter than the timber but I'm fairly happy with it. The undeside of the jib boom has a hole to take a small brass rod sitting up through the heel it rests on. As the stay will pull the tip upwards in the other direction physics should keep it in place on the ship and allow it to be unshipped and telescoped down for transport. 
     

     
    Top gallant mast (fibreglass) and wooden topmast under the crosstrees...
     

     
    The masts have been varnished (satin) and the tops and other black parts painted. After using some satin black from a spray can which looked awful and blotchy I finally did the right thing and airbrushed them. The greater control gave a far tidier finish.  There's a little shading in there on the fighting tops.

     
    The wolding and mast bands have been added to the main and foremasts.
     
     
    This was quite tricky, mainly due to the cane bands used. This was left over from the seats of my canoe and the first bands were stripped off after appearing overscale. Subsequent ones involve the cane split down to a smaller width, which is laborious but looks better. 
    I'm glad I did the masts first as I consider them the unsexy part of the ship that I'd be inclined to rush and avoid adding detail to if I tackled them at the other end of the build.
    The rope is from a dark brown polyester upholstery thread by Gutermamn turned on my homemade ropewalk which was the very first thing built for Enterprise. If the rope didn't look right there wasn't much point proceeding so that's a hurdle that was worth clearing.
    I should have just enough rope left for the lighter gauge rope woldings on the mizzen which will be done before I can get out of lockdown. 
     
    I've just got to add a couple of sheaves to the foremast masthead for the jib stays and they'll be largely finished but as I've run out of epoxy, that'll have to wait too.
     
    Here they are (top to bottom: fore, main, mizzen) with a smallish schnauzer, who happened to be passing,  for scale...
     
     

     
    Once the mizzen is finished, it'll be on to drawing up and cutting out the plywood frames for the hull and getting the building board sorted. Three dimensions await!
     
    In the meantime,  Harrier got a brief outing to test some ballasting and small sail alterations.
    She's in the landlocked sea that is our newly installed swimming pool. It was dropped in and made barely operational just before lockdown about 6 weeks ago and has been sitting in the otherwise destroyed backyard amid temporary fencing and mud, awaiting the return of the workers since. 
    On the plus side it'll be so much easier trialling Enterprise now the admiralty has seen fit to install this bespoke testing tank so near the shipyard. 
     

     
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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    With the country now in lockdown due to coronavirus I'm pretty limited on what materails I've got to hand.
     
    Given this project might be started and then put away for a bit if circumstances dictate, I started on the masts as they they are easy to store and are little projects in their own right.
    Square battens for the masts were cut to size from floorboard stock, ranging from about 15mm for the lower main to 9-10mm for the mizzen and smaller again for the topmast sections.  This might sound small for a model facing the stresses of actually sailing but, like the original ships, there is strength is in the timber but it's multiplied immensely by the rigging as shrouds and stays make Harrier's masts surprisingly strong for a ship that scale. 
     
    The battens were marked up from the plans and shaped into square stock with the table saw for the mast heads and octagonal sections with the help of a very useful online spar gauge and block plane and razor blade. The sides were either taken down to 16-sided with the plane or sanded from there depending on the size.
     

     

     
    The simple Proxxon lathe with a bed extension was useful for some shaping by hand with sandpaper. tis is the main topmast. Note the rising octagonal section near the head.
     

     
    The main and fore lower masts are 'made' masts featuring seperate pieces from front and side. These have iron hoops and also woldings around them with some going under the fore bolster. Slots were cut in these for the hoops to slip through later. The bolster itself was steamed over a pan of water and tied to the mast with cable ties overnight to give it a concave shape before it was stuck on the next day.
     

     
    The fighting top platforms are made from a small 3mm hobby ply board that was fibreglassed on either side as there will be a few thin but structurally important parts needing this material. Between building model ships I've knocked up a wooden canoe and kayak and the glassing skills have come in handy.
     
    Copies of the patterns were glued to the ply and cut out with a scroll saw. The edges, including the curved front on the mast, fore and mizzen tops were cut form the same material.

     
    The tops had board lines scribed on. It's a little detail but something I did on Harrier. It wasn't particularly visible there as I used a straight satin black paint but I'm looking at adding a little weathering, including drybrushing of the black areas on Enterprise that should make details like this pop a little more.
     

     
    Below is a finished top with battens and rim added and holes cut for the futtock plates and also the little holes on the front edge for the crowsfeet rigging, something the Cruiser class brigs like Harrier didn't feature. 
     
    Also below is one of the trestletrees, made from interlocking pieces of darker timber. The slots for the joints on this were cut on the Byrnes table saw. It's no exageration to say this project would be impossible without that tool.
     

     
     

     
    Once epoxied to the top, the trestletree makes it a very strong structure. It has to be as I've found with Harrier that these take a lot of weight and wear.
     
    It's easiest to grab the ship from under the two tops when dong a straight lift from above (not ideal for the back) into or out of the water and also when erecting the masts by pushing through the topmast from underneath against the downward force of the shrouds. 
     
    Here's an example of that with Harrier... Thumb on the front of the top pushing down as a finger pushes the topmast up from underneath as the other hand slots in the brass pin that acts as the mast fid.

     
    After the tops, the mastheads were detailed with iron bands made from cane leftover from a canoe seat. This will be painted so should be protection enough from it splitting etc. 
    Here you can see these added and a marked up topmast being tried for size before being shaped.
     

     
    The crosstrees for each mast where made from ply for the cross pieces and timber for the supprts. Here are the supports as one piece with notches  for the crossmembers cut. Many of these twin parts are easier to make as a simgle piece which can then be cut down the centre, ensuring symetry and squareness.
    The crosstrees on Harrier were made overscale for strength but after some use they don't seem to be at risk of breaking. The spreaders or crossmembers that hold the topgallant shrouds don't actually have vertical stress on them from the shrouds like I expected when they were made so the Enterprise parts are closer to scale size. Hopefully that's not a move to be regretted.
    Below you can see the weave of the fibreglass on the cut face before it's sanded.
     

     
    Here's a look at a topmast with a temporary shroud.
     

     
     
    The topgallant masts are getting down to 5mm diameter and below and as they are only supported by shrouds for half their lengths are  way too fragile for timber. The Harrier has fibreglass rods painted to look like wood for these pieces and it's been well worth it as extremities like the t'gallant masts and jib boom are the first to come into contact with obstacles when transporting and even setting up the ship at the lakeside. I have broken a fibreglass rod upper mast on Harrier after a few stupid knocks but it was one that was already weakened by having a brass rod through it for rigging purposes and was easily fixed with epoxy as it was the uppermost section that carries no yard and is really just cosmetic. 
     
    The lower t'gallant masts have an octagonal and square section where it meets the crosstrees etc below. To replicate this a square section of timber was drilled out and the rod inserted.
     

     
    This was then marked up:
     

     
    And shaped with a blade and files...

     
    The top fibreglass section was turned on the lathe with sandpaper and a blade.
     

     
    I only had enough rod leftover from Harrier to make the main t'gallant mast so the rest, including the jib boom, will have to wait until after lockdown.
     
    Here's the trio of masts completed minus t'gallants where shortages in the shipyard dictate and  without wolding etc which will be added after varnishing the timber..  

     
    The mainmast stands about 1.3m tall from the keel. It telescopes down as shown for transport with brass pins for fids holding the masts in place when rigged.
     

     
    The bowsprit was shaped as per the masts but by hand as it is not symetrical in section.
     

     
    The heel was marked and cut with a handsaw and blade.
     

     
    The head of the bowsprit has a square section from which the bees are attached. A rebate was cut with a blade for these to sit in and their supports underneath cut to shape. 
    Square sheave holes for the foremast stays were cut before glueing. 
     

     

     
    That's progress to date.  Next up it's the yards.
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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    I finished my first RC scratch built square rigger HMS Harrier a couple of years back and although I'm very happy with the result always considered her something of a practice run for the command that everyone wants - a frigate.   Check out Harrier in action on video.
     
    With the current pandemic making the full sized sailing dinghy I was hoping to start this year look just that - hopeful - there's no time like the present to start the frigate. 
     
    She's relatively cheap, being cobbled up from old floor boards and ply with the only realtively expensive bits being servos. She'll be easy to break into storeable stages if the world comes to rights and the financial situation lets me build a real boat, and also a bit of a challenge that should take at least a couple of years. 
     
    So, which frigate? I love the the Artois class like HMS Diana as per the fine examples built by the likes of Jason and Barbossa on MSW but as a 38 gun vessel it's 146ft on the gun deck and getting quite large for transport at a 1.2m hull in 1/36 scale.  Also, while the rest ofthe Anatomy of the Ship book is very detailed, the lines needed to reproduce a hull shape in my copy are not very detailed.
     
    The Enterprise class is a bit smaller at 120ft with all the attributes of a frigate and has the advantage of being repesented in some detailed orignal ship plans in Greenwhich's National Martime Museum;
     

     
     
    There are some very colourful contemporary paintings done by Jospeh Marshall as part of a series of ship models to stoke Geroge III's interest in the navy;  He dubbed the ship Enterprize, interchanging the Z with an S as was common at the time but most records of the time and modern scholarship have her as Enterprise.
     

     

     
    The clincher is a very detailed set of plans from Polish model company Shipyard, which also does smaller scale card models of Enterprise and her sister ship Cleopatra.
     

     
    The Shipyard plans cover everything from hull and deck layouts through fitout including guns, boats, masts and spars in a variety of scales ranging from 24,72, 96,192 etc depending on size.  The bit where it falls down are the carvings and decorations, which appear speculative at best and include a lion figurehead more suitable for a ship of the early 1700s.
     
    The idea for this build is to try to combine the best of the modern plans for a fairly accurate sailing model, with the contemporary plans and paintings to give the full bling of a Georgian vessel. While it's a little uncertain whether a vessel in service would have carried full freizework and decoration, I've always wanted to try my hand at it and the goal is something that looks like a contemporary ship model that can be sailed. As such, the ship will be one of the class, and generally correct for the period but with some speculation on decoration depending which vessel I end up depicting. 
    GIven the diverse sources it'll be a model of a painting of a ship model, so I think that'll give me a bit of latitude.
    We'll see how close I get to the goal of a big 1770s Navy Board model you can drop in the lake. 
     
    A little about the Enterprise class:
     
    A sixth rate Designed by John WIlliams in 1770, the first five of this class were ordered for the Falklands Islands emergency. 
    Fox, Syren, Surprise and Enterprise and Acteon were launched from the early 1770s through to 1775. Another 15 vessels followed in 76-78 and another seven in 82-83 with solid quarter deck bulkheads.
    They saw service during the Revolutionary War, with many Enterprises active on the American station against US privateers, at the relief of Gibralter, in the Mediterranean, Caribbean, including at the battle of the Saintes, around the North Sea and French coasts and even the battle of Cuddalore in the Indian Ocean. They were active ships, with losses to weather and enemy action that reflected this, although some limped through as troop ships or on harbour duty until late in the Napoleonic wars. 
     
    Length on gundeck: 120ft
    Breadth: 33ft 9 inches
    Crew: 200
    Initial armament: Upper deck: 24 x 9lbers, Quarter deck: 4x3lbers.
    By 1780 the quarter deck armament was 4x6lbers plus 4 18lb carronades and another two on the forecastle. 
     
    Making a start
     
     
    The shipyard plans were scaled up to 1/36 scale and details like framing station lines, fixtures for the ballast keel, ply deadwood, rough places for servos and battery and other details drawn in. The plans have station molds indicated, which were expanded to show the 12mm ply that will be used for framing.   
     
    Some initial work on the masts is visible below.  More on that in the next post.
     

     
     
    The Enterprise hull is roughly 1m on the deck, slightly bigger than Harrier at 80cm and has a much greater internal volume, which should hopefully make some of the fitout easier, although there are issues around internal access with a quarterdeck as well as the main deck. 
    Rough overall length with bowsprit should be 1.6-1.7m, with the masts standing about that tall from the keel, although they will collapse for transport. It should fit in the family wagon, if not it'll have to go in my camping trailer, although my wife is asking where it'll fit in the garage already containing a car, canoe, kayak, the Harrier, kids' bikes, clothesline and my workbench and tools... 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from Barbossa in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from GrandpaPhil in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo reacted to Wacom in HMS Winchelsea 1764 by Wacom - FINISHED - 1:48   
    If you ever wondered how someone with a creaky back and even creakier neck gets to work on those difficult bits of Winnie look no further.
    I find that jigs to hold this large hull are a must, this one was developed to allow me to add all that fine decorative details on the stern.


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    Timmo reacted to Wacom in HMS Winchelsea 1764 by Wacom - FINISHED - 1:48   
    Slow progress to date, the port side quarter gallery and frieze installed.
    The mouldings are not as per Chuck, the making of the scrapers for them had me beat after many, many attempts so I decided to go with the A.L. scrapers I had
    As Mr Sinatra said "I did it my way" whilst trying to keep the ship in the spirit of this fine prototype.
    The roof and lady in the corner are only sitting there as are the windows, I consider them too delicate to permanently attach at this stage.
    And so onto the starboard side.

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    Timmo got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from ccoyle in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from Wacom in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    At the risk of looking like I’m easily distracted, Enterprise has been laid up on the stocks while I devote my time to a new project that’s been on the Wishlist for years. 
    it’ll be a 14.5 ft ply sailing dinghy - an Ilur from French designer François Vivier. 
    Hopefully it’ll look something like this: 

    (pic: c Harlan)
     
    my build will be here if anyone’s interested. http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?267473-An-Ilur-in-NZ
    I’m looking forward to returning to Enterprise down the track and have picked up some kauri timber for the Ilur that I’ve thought about maybe saving for the planking on Enterprise. We’ll see. 
    I’ll still be checking out MSW in the meantime. 
    good luck all. 
     
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from druxey in Western Red Cedar   
    I also did a canoe with it and endorse the above. I couldn’t see it working much for anything model size. I love it’s grain, smell and texture and the great result on the canoe but it doesn’t love me. A lingering skin irritation resparked by other wood dust is an unpleasant legacy. 
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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    Work has moved to the hull. 
    The frames have been drawn up and cut out.

    These are still solid at present but will have the middle cut out to leave a hollow frame. This will contain the cambered gun deck line.  On Harrier I did the same but ended up replacing them with stronger timber deck beams, especially around the hatches. I might do the same here but having the floor leave on ply is helpful for showing the level.
    the deck is shown marked in red above. It’s about 5mm below the actual level to account for the 3mm false deck and then planking on top of that.
     
    Here are the frames stacked up.

     
    Fitting in the RC gear has been a big consideration of the build.
    there is more internal space than harrier but the added complexity of a quarterdeck and also gun deck that needs to be pierced to make it accessible.
     
    While spreading the servos out is possible it would also mean more hatches for access with the difficulty of getting through two decks. 
    Some wooden servo blanks were made 
     

     
    This is also gives an idea of what controls Enterprise will have. All are drum style sail winches with the exception of the spanker, which is a simple arm, as per Harrier. That worked well so I’m not going to change it up now.

     
    There will be a single large access hatch the size of the centre of the gun deck from just fore of the mainmast to just short of the main bitts.
    this means fewer holes in the hull and less waterproofing trouble.  Most of the control lines travel up the main and foremast so are within easy reach. The exceptions are the lines for the spanker and rudder, which will run through pre installed guide eyelets or pulleys below deck and be accessible at a stretch with tools. Harrier’s rudder has surprisingly needed no maintenance to date so I’m hoping for the same with Enterprise, but at worst the removal of one rear servo should allow plenty of room to get an arm in. 
     
    The stem and keel have been has been cut.

     
    A bearding line was continued up the stem for planks to slot into. Also joint lines were scribed in. This is largely one piece of timber, with just a 10mm extension epoxied on. It’s very strong and will get more so once planking and other parts tie it together. 

     
    Recent work has involved cutting and test fitting the stern timbers for the gallery etc. that’s where things really get complex. 
     
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    Timmo got a reaction from JerryTodd in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    go on then, another one...
    The ominous torpedo ballast keel is visible when in the pool, unlike local lakes etc. I'm interested to see whether Enterprise's greater hull capacity and bouyancy will allow a bit more internal ballast and something that will be less yacht-like underneath her. 

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    Timmo got a reaction from Bluto 1790 in HMS Enterprize by Timmo - 1/36 scale - RADIO - 28-gun frigate   
    With not much else to do outside working from home hours, and even during a few of those hours in quiet times.... lots of sticks have been made.
     
    The mainyard at bottom is 630mm long and 13.5mm wide. It was getting a little tricky eaking out the limited floorboard timber stocks on somthing this size without nail holes and knots.  On Harrier I used fibreglass rod for the t'gallant yards for durability but they don't seem to have needed it so these are all timber. Some of the smaller ones have been left slightly overscale, more for the fact that they'll need to take a brass pin through the centre down the track and Harrier has taught me that on large items like masts and yards, slightly larger scale for the sake of functionality is almost impossible to see once it's on the water.
     

     
    Sling and other cleats have been added.
     

     
     
    The jaws of the driver boom and gaff are fibreglassed ply as per the fighting tops with lead foil 'iron' bands. There's also the first of the ship's many sheaves in the end of the driver boom. This is a little turned brass item from RB Models of Poland. There's quite a few left over from Harrier.

     

     
    Here's Enterprise with her sticks...

     
    Given the extremities of the masts and the jib boom are fibreglass they needed to be painted to match the varnished timber of the masts.  They were sprayed an off-white colour called 'lace' and some yellow ochre oil paints with a little flat white humbrol was mixed up and brushed on lengthways, allowing brushstrokes and a little of the undercoat showing through to roughly resemble a subtle wood grain.
     

     
    Here's the result with the fibreglass jib boom at top and the wooden bowsprit it's mounted on. It's a little brighter than the timber but I'm fairly happy with it. The undeside of the jib boom has a hole to take a small brass rod sitting up through the heel it rests on. As the stay will pull the tip upwards in the other direction physics should keep it in place on the ship and allow it to be unshipped and telescoped down for transport. 
     

     
    Top gallant mast (fibreglass) and wooden topmast under the crosstrees...
     

     
    The masts have been varnished (satin) and the tops and other black parts painted. After using some satin black from a spray can which looked awful and blotchy I finally did the right thing and airbrushed them. The greater control gave a far tidier finish.  There's a little shading in there on the fighting tops.

     
    The wolding and mast bands have been added to the main and foremasts.
     
     
    This was quite tricky, mainly due to the cane bands used. This was left over from the seats of my canoe and the first bands were stripped off after appearing overscale. Subsequent ones involve the cane split down to a smaller width, which is laborious but looks better. 
    I'm glad I did the masts first as I consider them the unsexy part of the ship that I'd be inclined to rush and avoid adding detail to if I tackled them at the other end of the build.
    The rope is from a dark brown polyester upholstery thread by Gutermamn turned on my homemade ropewalk which was the very first thing built for Enterprise. If the rope didn't look right there wasn't much point proceeding so that's a hurdle that was worth clearing.
    I should have just enough rope left for the lighter gauge rope woldings on the mizzen which will be done before I can get out of lockdown. 
     
    I've just got to add a couple of sheaves to the foremast masthead for the jib stays and they'll be largely finished but as I've run out of epoxy, that'll have to wait too.
     
    Here they are (top to bottom: fore, main, mizzen) with a smallish schnauzer, who happened to be passing,  for scale...
     
     

     
    Once the mizzen is finished, it'll be on to drawing up and cutting out the plywood frames for the hull and getting the building board sorted. Three dimensions await!
     
    In the meantime,  Harrier got a brief outing to test some ballasting and small sail alterations.
    She's in the landlocked sea that is our newly installed swimming pool. It was dropped in and made barely operational just before lockdown about 6 weeks ago and has been sitting in the otherwise destroyed backyard amid temporary fencing and mud, awaiting the return of the workers since. 
    On the plus side it'll be so much easier trialling Enterprise now the admiralty has seen fit to install this bespoke testing tank so near the shipyard. 
     

     
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