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  1. rwiederrich
    That top image of the Benjamin F Packard's cabin at Mystic.. I've never seen, but the other two I have had in my collection for years. When I began my research on the Glory..I came across that B/W image of the Packard's interiors...and it inspired me to imagine the interiors of the Glory as they must have appeared. Rob
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    Realizing that the same sense of danger and the need for extreme safety measures (as we are accustomed to today) was just not in the mind set of folks back then. Freedom, it appears, was more prevalent. I was reading that the cabin that was saved from the clipper Nightingale, named for the famous singer Jenny Lind, was extremely well fashion and finely finished. There was little external ornamentation and embellishments, safe the prow and stern of clippers...so much expense was lavished on their interior decorations and finishing's, where passengers would enjoy them. Can't wait to see your final rendering. I glued the bulkheads to the keel last night. I'll add reinforcing members between them when I return from Holiday. Rob
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    I'm wondering why it appears she is being launched prior to all her plates being added.....?
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    Man....not to be sounding all knowing, but I remotely thought I knew the definition of that, when I first read your username. It sounded so familiar, but with names it could mean almost anything. NOW I believe I fully understand where you're coming from...…. Rob(In the company of Giants)
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    Oh...you weren't clear about what part of your comment you were joking about. I incorrectly assumed you were speaking about the latter half...the Dory lighting half....not the Druxey~Wiederrich correction half. Perception is everything. My mistake. I do like the lighting idea and even the idea of making the roof of the poop cabin removable to show the interior....interesting. It could be a theme...not only make the hull....but to incorporate interior details to increase the models interest. Lighting included. I have loads of mahogany and oak veneer to line the cabins and main dinning room. I, actually need to get back to her, now that I am no longer detained with helping my daughter put up drywall and tape/texture her house. Rob
  6. rwiederrich
    Calling out cutwater stem corrections is one thing...but now your getting ...spelling police...nasty.
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    Ahhh...I see. I had originally gathered that that might be the case. But then calculated that at the slightest chance, you might be cognitively serious, so I thought it might be interesting to add lighting....since it will only be a hull model and internal lights might just add that additional detail that would otherwise be found in the masting and rigging. Your joking intent actually had some fruitful outcome. I felt a cohesive answer better then, just openly shouting out, *Are you nuts....how about I run some canned music of sea chanties (Or better yet, sounds of a salmon cannery) coming from below decks while I'm at it*?
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    The Druxey Correction sounds best👍 Dental waxes are mailable as well as stable. I owned a dental lab and denture clinic for over 25 years, so I have plenty of experience with waxes. I have considered lighting Glory, with a light in the helm cabin, glowing from the aft cabin windows and possibly a glowing lamp in the forecastle, with the batteries hidden insides a removable fore cabin. Lots to happen before then😊 Rob
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    Yes indeed....and what I find most amazing is that she hasn't been building ship models all that long....even her understanding of ship structures is limited...but it is how she can translate what she sees into a living accurately scaled model that I find extraordinarily amazing. I would expect her modeling abilities to be found in an aged modeler who couples years of personal experience with a true grasp of wood husbandry and manipulation. But no...this girl just picked it up and ran with it. Sure she did possess clay modeling skills and an artistic flair but she sure found her calling when she put it all together in a quality ship model. Just can't say enough about Doris. Rob (Now I feel more like a hack then ever)
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    Interesting thing is, I saw the *Druxey correction* at about the same time he called it out, but I was going to ease in with my observation...he just beat me to it. Sure is true that like minded folks think alike. I know Doris very well...she and I have been conversing for several years now. I now and again go over to her European websight and converse with her there as well as on these pages. She is a Master with paper and her sculpting is absolutely amazing.... I plan on doing my carving in hard dental wax...it is a medium I am very familiar with and it carves well when it is soft and then it hardens like a sculptamould material. We are all learning new tricks as we work together to accomplish our end results. Thanks for the fine comments and recommendations. Rob
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    Beautiful. The bow and angle of the cut water are perfect IMV. So is the Druxey correction. Sweet! I love it.
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    The restorers claim that there are some scanning errors. I saw that years ago and even have some errors with my scanned book for Great Republic
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    I wasn't aware Donald Trump drew images of clippers...... I would be elated if such a collection was made known and available to the public. Your prowess and attention to these Peabody matters is well received. Do you possess the publications, *Speed under Sail* and *Greyhounds of the Sea*? They, I believe have drawings of some of McKay's hulls. I'll post anything I find relevant. Rob
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    Good observation Keith. In most cases it is a Navy thing. Keeping the martingale parallel with the masts was probably a matter of symmetry and finds its roots in some antiquated Navy tradition. However the stresses on the martingale and the off balance of the tension of the stays would make this arrangement less efficient. However making her at a right angle to the bowsprit would be less symmetrical and thus less Navy.
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    What a coincidence. We began our Glory research roughly around the same time...funny. (We've been married 36 years) I came to the same conclusion about Donald McKay's name and the articles poor handling of it. However, from gathering the old timers recollection of certain ship details...I had to conclude, for myself, that it must have been the writer of the article who had some how misremembered or misheard. Coupling that with, the attestation of the producers of the reprint recognizing that in the scanning there might be details lost to reproduction. Or...as you pointed out...little attention was given to Donald's contribution to American Maritime history. Still, either way, it is still sloppy journalism. Thanks you for your own contribution and passion for the subject. There are very few of us. Rob
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    It provides a good(for reference sake) side view of the iron band connecting to the hood and the inclination of the bowsprit. I have a full copy of the article...short its image for good reference material. Rob
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    You are so funny....I gathered my collection of this data in my data base and was going to sent it to you...but you beat me to it. Just this morning I was putting it all together to post. WOW! The story is an amazing one isn't it? Brings some new dimension to what we are delving into doesn't it. I'm so glad your own research has brought this information to you. I've possessed it for years, ever since I began my own research into Glory some 11 years ago. Good sleuthing. Rob
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    Pat...several other factors may come into play as well when determining what direction to go. Mostly two. First what was the practice at the time. You can rarely go wrong when you default to common practice. Secondly, and probably the most demanding, is what was the practice of the builder(If you can even know this)? Some builders prided themselves in a particular practice or use a particular media. Be it for practical purposes, historical, family, or availability of material. Donald McKay, generally built his clippers from wood, preferring quality wood members then opting to forego the mechanics skill at fabricating robust members from oak, poplar, or white pine. McKay was famous for utilizing the most modern machinery and providing for his shipwrights welfare, but as far as constructing his vessels his practices were well known...and many quite secret. Other builders such as Webb(who eventually made profits in building iron steam ships, utilized iron more readily. Knowing this, however does not negate the fact that modifications did occur on vessels later in their careers. One could drive themselves into oblivion, if they fail to realize they are only creating a replica. You get my two thumbs up...waaay over hear....across the pond. Rob
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    This has been wonderful exchange. I agree with Druxey and your final conclusion. All these slight changes are what are going to make her drawings so much more accurate and authentic.
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    Beautiful. So beautiful
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    This is so true...how would of Webb's fine Clipper performed if handled by a competent 1st mate and crack crew. The Captains integrity and ability was without question. Donald expended enormous amounts of time and money providing for his shipwrights and general laborers. Providing the state of the art equipment and facilities. His financial woes can be compared to the housing catastrophe of 07~09. People literally lost their homes and businesses..solely because the market collapsed...NOT because they were foolish wasteful spenders. Donald failed to diversify, as Webb did...and stuck to his guns...producing wonderful clippers long after their real usefulness was gone and moved onto fuller bodied slow carriers and Steam ships. Donald was a man for the *ERA* and he did it well...from 1848~1858 and then again briefly from 1867~1869 when Glory of the Seas was created. Rob
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    Yes I have several copies of that book and I recall the images of the half models. I felt as you, that Donald's later years were sad ones and the loss to all his collection is just as sad. I can only defer to the honesty and integrity of the Boston museum of fine arts as to their collections provenancial integrity. I just wish a half model of credibility of Glory would come forward. Thanks for your fine input. Rob
  23. rwiederrich
    Material and scale will be the biggest dictators to what you do. Most folks only have a limited knowledge of what you are speaking of and that is based upon their observations of imagery similar to what you have provided. The model in the hands of a skilled modeler need not reflect at all times actuality . In fact, part of his skill (and probably one of his greatest attributes), is to skillfully reinterpret and give the illusion something is what it is not. Basing this attribute on the availability of accurate materials, their manipulation of said materials and their mental prowess to be able to accept these limitations and knowing when to say enough detail is enough. Again...this is all subjective and follows the first two dictators of scale and material. IMV, your interpretation is the only interpretation that truly matters...but if your past doings have anything to say...you'll probably not stray far from the quality and matchless detail you have been following and exhibiting. Do what you think best, when accurate drawing are not available. The only person who will criticize you the most is you yourself. Your HMCSS Victoria is a beautiful rendering. Rob
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    Vladimir...she sure is looking swell. Your planking work is exceptional. I applaud you for taking on such a large redo. I can only hope my planking of Glory of the Seas comes out nearly as well. OH....I've never seen anywhere in your log about what, where, you plan on displaying this large model....what are your plans for her? Rob
  25. rwiederrich
    I was under the impression that Donald destroyed all his models..so there is no *actual* real builders models, but only replications. The Great Republic was an *extreme* model....even though she was nearly twice the size of the next vessel... This model is evidence(If truly correct) that she was a magnificent vessel....that I understand the Lightning was similarly modeled after. Rob

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