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Before I get going full steam on building the masts I wanted to take a couple of comparison shots of existing photographs and my model.
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Well done Doug and finely executed. Well researched and wonderful attention to detail. Congrats. She will bring you years of viewing pleasure. Rob
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I'm only concerned with what I see in her San Fran photo of 1877. We need someone to pull a Michael Mjelde and compile this documented remodeling info timeline. I'm far too busy building her to allocate any time to sucha worth while pursuit. At this time. Rob
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So we need to ascertain the time frame of Capt Josiah's captaincy....to determine the approximate time frame of the painting. Further questions arise, such as how many *Major* conversions did she undergo between 1870 and 1877? If this image depicts her with the helm cabin conversion complete...and with the addition of the boys house and its catwalk(Not to mention the chicken house).....when did the addition of the additional backstays happen.....during what *renovation* did they happen in? I was always under the impression that during her *Major* renovation....she had the helm closed in....the addition of the boys house and catwalk....and the addition of the new backstays. THAT sounds like a *Major* renovation to me. If the painting was done before 1877...most of the items mentioned are seen in her San Fran image...cept the backstays🤪 Did the backstays happen after all the other items, but after the painting was done? A couple questions we need to answer. I only mentioned the main mast gaff because during the kind of weather depicted in the painting...a gaff sail or spanker would have been bent to it. there is no indication of this. It really isn't an issue anyway, Rob
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I cleaned up the shop a little bit today and moved everything around getting ready to taper the masks. I first made sure that they were all measured out properly and ready to cut them to the proper links.I first made sure that they were all measured out properly and ready to cut them to the proper links.
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In furtherance of gathering details of period details of Glory....I have come across a few questions. I understand that the famous painting of Glory...the one Rich loves, (By Walters) has some details I'm not quite sure are accurate. This is loosely based upon dates. I understand that this famous painting was done by the artist who had personally seen Glory and thusly painted her as he saw her. This , alone helps us evaluate her hull accuracies. Rich...do you know the year this painting was done? I ask, because she is depicted Without her additional backstays(which were added during her major refit in 1872). She is not portrayed with white recessed chapeling, but fully varnished masts . And possibly a hint of red banding. The painting does depict her carriage house to boy house catwalk. It appears she also has an iron anchor, but noticeably no gaff on the main mast . Now....on the other side, is the photograph of her in San Fran in 1877....where she clearly has a wood stock anchor, white painted chapeling and dark/black banding( suggesting a dark color, possibly black). Clearly the additional backstays are seen. No stun sail booms are present, but her Howes double topsail crane and boom are present. She has no stay spreaders and she has a monkey gaff on her mizzen as well as in the painting. All of these anomalies cause me to wonder. Lastly the photograph of her in San Pedro shows her without the catwalk? Dating the image will help, since hogging of her hull had already been identified, making this image taken after her catwalk was removed, and in her later years. Lots of questions. Rob
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Interesting, she is not listed as a McKay clipper....probably because she was listed as a *Packet*. Small little thing...probably 600~900 tons, I would guess. Captains had supreme rule on board and owners allowed them to paint,.,trim, them in whatever scheme that made an impression. Many captains had controlling interest in their ships and so making such decisions was their privy. Plus, as mentioned, they could be easily recognized from afar. I'm truly not sure Glory had red bands during her 1870,s time period. Rob
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Yeah...once I repainted them a more weathered oxidized red...they fit right in with the weathered hull.....and I feel better about them. Now that I see them all together....the effect they exude is quite attractive. The rest of the masts and yards will be stained and varnished in like manner. I will paint the bottom and leading edge of the tops white...but leave the top/walking surface stained/varnished. I will now clean up a bit, remount the hull, set it aside and use the Dremel vise to hold each mast as I construct it. I'll treat each mast as a separate project. Makes the construction go by much faster(In my head), if not in actuality. Rob
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Some outlandish paint schemes and even printing on sails were made to make an impression. The Dreadnought comes to mind . Rob
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Well I got done finish painting and banding the mast so the lower mast are all complete ready to be finished as far as some of the boots and seats to go into them but they will not be glued in at this time. I think this new band color is a lot more acceptable it’s more subdued but I believe it’s still represents the red banding that McKay used on this particular ship. Now I’ll let things dry and I’ll be prepared to start on the top mast and the heads and the doubling’s and just moving up the mast……..here we go. Rob
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Well I decided before I tear everything off and start over with black bands I will go ahead and touch up the red bands with a darker brownish red paint to see what it look like and this is what it looks like.Well I decided before I tear everything off and start over with black bands I will go ahead and touch up the red bands with a darker brownish red paint to see what it look like and this is what it looks like.
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Read several accounts in several of my historical books on clipper ships and many times captains would paint the bands bright red so I’m not sure what they meant by bright red, but I’m sure that it was meant to be distinct and make a point. I’m still evaluating if I want them bright red or red at all , I might just change them to be black , I’m not really sure if I like the look. Rob
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BeganTo finish the foremast I cut back the doubling and painted the chapeling and banded the mast and put it in place to take a look. Not sure I like the red. I still have to oil the mast and apply a mat varnish finish. Rob
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Next are several photos showing all of the chapel spacers glued into each mast . I will now take all the masts out and turned them on the lathe. First I sanded the high edges of, so as not to create undue stress while turning to the proper diameter. Rob
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Next I set up the mini table saw and began to cut the spacers
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Well here we go. I firstI took the wood over to the router table and cut in the four notches.
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Hopefully I will take more images this time around. Rob
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Like the Israelites, it was self inflicted…….and again, like the Israelites, only a remnant made it into the promised land. Shedding off our wandering , we entered into Glory’s rest…… mmmmmmmm. Rob
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That, right there my friend, is clear as crystal...... Thanks, Rob
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🤪 66' fore mast from deck, 72' main mast from deck, and 61-3=58' for mizzen from top of carriage house roof. It's like extracting a tooth slowly...... We'll get there, but we're gonna feel a little pressure...... Thanks for all your help. I'll use dead reckoning to determine the actual length of the doublings....based upon the known distance of 3" of distance between each mast band.
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