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Great work Vlad……just wonderful. I like the metal edging and detail of the slats. But you are making the same mistake I originally did. The opening for the shrouds is the full length of the top. From the forward trim to the aft timber. The full length of the hounds timber. Here is a photo of the actual design. Sorry, not to be a Debby Downer, but accuracy is accuracy. Other than that….beautiful work. Rob
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Looking great. Nice work. Rob
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Stropped the7/64” dead eyes in wire prior to rigging. Rob
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Spent some time working the main mast futtock shrouds and deadeyes. Rob
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I'm here to help in any way I can.....clippers are my thing. Rob
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Forbes and Howes are two separate designs. Forbes actually invented the double topsail. However, his design incorporated the lower topsail that slid up and down the topsail mast doubling portion. In essence hiding the lower topsail in the wind shadow of the main course, making furling it easier on the crew. (Great Republic used this design) The Howes modification took the Forbes design to the next level and permanently affixed it to the cap of the lower mast at the *tops*. It was stationary, but could swing and rotate on its crane. (Most clippers utilized this modified Forbes design (Known as the Howes design). Some designs also included a support bar underneath the yard that either extended to the tops or to a band fixed to the topmast doubling....(Glory's design). Rob
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Only her lower topsail is fixed to the main mast cap via a crane. All other yards are mobile via leather laced metal parrels. Go get=em. Rob
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If you are looking for a double top gallant, lower then it will be hung like the lower top mast. this image is for a single top gallant. it is correct. Rob
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Hope this helps. Rob
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These last images are showing the configuration of all the yards and their fixtures. Images from Campbell and Underhill’s books Rob
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Next…..Glory was rigged with Howes double topsails. these two images come from, “The masting and rigging of American clippers” and “Masting and rigging of clipper ships and ocean carriers”. They show the Howes double topsail design. Glory was slightly modified from the image with the banded support arm. Rob
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Glad….here are some diagrams from several sources first this overall image shows the yards and how they are fixed to mast. This image shows the lower double royal mounted as the lower topsail. Glory did not have one of these Image is from “Lore of Ships” Rob
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To pipe in....along with published numbers...I always use calipers or drafting dividers to cross reference these numbers with actual photographs. Dead reckoning via direct measurements of photographs....either validates or causes you to remeasure. Like any good carpenter....measure twice(5 times if necessary), cut once. If I can reverse engineer the entire hull from knowing the actual length of the figurehead....I can do the same with the masts and yards. Rob
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Typically built masts had hollow centers and just atop the mast cap there was a vent cap to permit air flow within the mast....to prevent rot. I have yet to add this feature to my mast caps. Hope this helps in understanding built up masts. you're doing a wonderful job. Rob
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This image shows slightly different built mast. the chapeling is limited to just under the banding and the valley's appear quite pronounced. Rob
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And here is a picture of a built up mast that came from an (unknown) wrecked clipper. This is the mizzen mast. Again...notice the chapeling beneath the banding....this design is similar to yours with a flat valley floor. Unlike that of Glory's replacement main mast in the previous image. Notice the number of iron pins utilized to secure this mast...in this one section. These mast were quite robust. Rob
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Here is a closeup of Glory's main mast chapeling and banding. Notice the tapered ends terminating in the sharp valley recess. Rob
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See Vlad....you did it....and nicely too. What did you use for your banding? I like your approach a lot and at your larger scale you can accomplish finer detail. Well done. Rob
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Man Vlad...you're moving out on those yards. Great job for sure, that's a lot of detailed work..... I notice you have six yards that have trucks mounted to them......Glory (and most all Howser rigged clippers) only had the lower yards on each mast that had iron trucks supporting the yards away from the mast. The lower topsail yard had a sling banded to it and it was mounted to the top band by a crane arm and then was supported by an iron support bar from underneath. All the other yards were of a composite band constructed to the yard that slid around the mast and permitted the yard to be lowered and raised...via the haulyard and downhauls. So I'm a bit confused by all the banded mounted trucks you have on 6 yards. Could I be mistaken? Rob
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Worked on the mizzenmast futtock shrouds and deadeyes. Rob
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I too originally intended to only make my (Original) Glory....the one this thread started with....a simple hull model, but as you say....it would leave Glory a pitiful shadow of what she really is. Your scale does slightly afford you with a bit larger and *easier, to make, I would assume(NOT) rigging and accessories. I fully agree....EdT's Young America is a great example to mimic...and the plethora of images available on his thread...are a builders blessing. A couple of good rigging books might help and surely Michael Mjelde's second book will aid in rigging her by using his drawings as reference. Currently, I am planning and thinking out my process for making the futtock shrouds and their connection to the lower top deadeyes. I do things unothodoxical, so too keep things simple and highly repeatable. I'm remembering and refreshing my thoughts as to what I did for the Great Republic. I'll duplicate the technique I used then. I've got to clean up and prep a lot of deadeyes and strop them first. Rob
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I've been meaning to ask you Vlad.......what was the factor that caused you to change your mind and go ahead and finish your version of Glory? I also saw that you are working on her bowsprit and jibboom as well. Nice to see your efforts again. Your 1/72 version will truly be a big model. Glad you're back in the shipyard. Rob
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