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Oh...we know you Vlad...you pump out good work....it is just astonishing that you do it so well....AND....quickly. but since you admitted you don't sleep much....I can see now where you get your time to be so fruitful. Rob
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Kevin....if you continue along in the log you will see the corrected drawings we commutatively developed...with Michael Mjelde's approval. His drawing are correct for the most part...but are grossly inaccurate in her cutwater and stern, not to mention on a few of her deck trimmings and furniture. Remember he did these drawings many decades ago with no peer review...no second set of eyes. We have the benefit of several enthusiastic researchers who are tenacious about details. Plus we have the great wealth of Mikes unpublished photographic library. Please continue along and you will devise as we did the most accurate replication of Glory to this day. Plus you have the extra added benefit of having Glory of the Seas built , replicating both her early and later years...representing her many added modifications. A fully printed version would be an amazing thing to behold as well as 3D printing can smoothly and seamlessly recreate finer details if done well. Good luck in your adventure.....and do your research well. It can be as rewarding as the build itself. I believe Vladmir has the original CAD drawings he used to have bulkheads laser cut from. He would be the true source to look to for this kind of information. I would follow your build log in a hurry. Rob
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Thanks Kevin……they sure are eye catching. This plan is in Michael Mjelde’s second book about Glory of the Seas. Rob
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Man this boys passin me up like there’s no Sundays. These days I barely get in an hour here and there in the boat shop. Vlad is doing great indeed. Rob
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When originally rigged these ships did not sport the stationary lower topsail(Typical of the Howes design), but were later converted. The Great Republic was built before all of of these other examples and actually, McKay originally built her with Forbes Double topsails....the Originator of the double topsail.. Howes didn't invent the double topsail...he merely modified it and made it more practical. McKay recognized the benefits of the rig and first used it on GR. Prior to that most clippers used single topsails that were large single sails....the topgallent was just as large and hence was the Royal. I gathered that the Champion as originally designed, was of the sail plan depicted in the photograph, but was later re-rigged with Howes double topsails Since Lightning and Champion were build a year later then GR....I wondered why they were not *Originally* built with Howes rigged double topsails. It's just curious to me. In short(Or long, dependent how interested you are), Champion in this photograph, was built over a year after GR and she only carried a main, a single topsail, and a Royal. she didn't even carry a topgallant, which was typical of this period clipper. Great Republic, a year earlier(as originally designed), carried on her main mast.....a Mainsail...upper and lower topsails...a single topgallant....and a Royal. When rebuilt a year later(as Howes rigged) she sported her mainsail...double topsails....topgallant....Royal and skysail. Champion in this image only carried 3 sails per mast....strange...😏. Must been taken earlier then when she posted her record 24 hour log of 20 knots per hour. Rob
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One other note concerning this image of Champion of the Seas. She was built in 1854 an extreme clipper larger then Glory at 2447 tons. But.... Why on earth would she be sporting only mains, topsails and royals? Was this sail configuration part of McKay's scheme to increase her speed.(she was fast...20 knots) ..what methodology was he following....or theorizing? Rob
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I gathered that after I posted, but without further analysis from you, I made the correction. Sorry , if I was unclear. great pic by the way. Rob
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Only problem with this image is it’s not representative of Glory. The forward Davit on Glory is just aft of the last main mast backstay…….and the aft davit is forward of the leading Taft rail stanchion and iron rail head. Many images show or suggest this. Rob
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Great job Vlad...but before you glue that pump down, correct the flywheel's location .... They are not on the inside of the rail, but the outside. How do you suspect a human is suppose to hold the handle on the pump and rotate it with it on the inside of the fife rail? People always seam to get this wrong. Rob
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Did some corrections and additions. Still need to finish up the highlights and weathering. Rob
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I have to make some mods/corrections to solidify accuracy in the sails....but We're getting there. Good eye....yes indeedy...I'm making us of the preformed blocks that are actually pretty much in scale for this particular build. They will easily blend in to the overall build. I make sure I have several color changes between blocks...since they were wood and they weathered differently due to their location and use on the vessel. Some darker(Oiled, less UV's) and some bleached(Peeling varnish, checked). It's all about creating a *Natural Randomness*....... Nothing is perfect...nothing. Thanks for the fine comments. Rob
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Thanks Pat... It can be a struggle to create convincing enough tightly furled sails. You have to capture the uneven rolled/tufted effect without the sail appearing overly exaggerated or comical. I added some slight detailing to the surface of the sail to break up any uniformity and lend greater detail as to what might be expected in tightly rolled canvas that is furled over jackstays and banding. Still needing to add becket banding/straps and run the chain sheets for the topsail. I might even add some whiter highlights to emphasize reflections. Its knowing when to stop and to know when less is more. Thanks for the fine comments. Rob
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I still have much detailing to add to the sail. Beckets(straps) still need to be installed. I’ll probably add the chain sheets for the top topsail. Rob
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You're on your way to rigging mastery. Just remember that book includes rigging for several types of ships....avoid the iron carriers and stick with the wooden descriptions(Those would generally be the clippers). And some descriptions are referenced for both types...because the function was identical. Those descriptions can also be used. Have fun. Rob
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"Masting and Rigging the Clipper Ship and Ocean Carrier" A used one of Ebay for $28~ $60 Rob
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Wonderful work Vlad....you're moving along nicely. What mast are you adding the jackstay too? Rob
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It adds that extra added detail. I used it quite extensively on my model railroading too. Simple but easy and effective. My coat of arms. Rob
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Yes they might. Have you heard of window glaze, or liquid window? It is sold by MicroMart. It is a white glue material that you simply rub inside the port hole causing it to all come together in a white window(use a tooth pic), and it dries clear. Causing/creating the windows. I use it all the time. Pretty nifty. It might be easier then the other process. Rob
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Its nice to get after market stanchions that are nearly perfect for your build. Makes things so much easier. I had to hand turn over 100 4.5mm stanchions for Glory of the Seas. Saving time were ever you can is one of my moto's. You're doing a smart clean job on her....I'm impressed. Are your port holes going to have glass in them? Rob
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Nic........I can only assume that you've endured many of my postings and quite sure you have heard me say....*I am generally a lazy modeler*. If I can find or concoct a simpler, easier way of getting out of having to actually make a part from thin air....I'll take plan B. Shoot, I'll take plan Z if it achieves my goal and it requires the least amount of energy expenditure. Both mental and physical. Rob (You hit the nail on the head).
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To be honest...As you put it, is sounds more self promoting, then I had intended. I actually was quoting a phrase my father always liked to use. He always said....*If someone else can do it....so can you*. He was instilling in us that we had....*LIfe, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Life..thank the Lord mom and dad had me here, LIberty...I have protection from you and the Govt, and the Pursuit of Happiness....If you suck at being happy because you have no imagination or ingenuity or skill, then that is entirely your own fault*. Tom...I surely do not have it all. Rob(I do have the most important things...God and my family)
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Short of processing the sheet block like EdT did by making separate sides and bolting them together(Pretty tough job at 1/96. I searched for a material I could manipulate to simulate the same structure. These metal tabs used for medical folders...had embossed portions that when bent over on themselves provided the exact replication of the body of the sheet block I needed to fabricate. Simply cutting the shape of the block into the stock material was done with a small cut off disk in my dental handpiece. Sure I had to forego the rollers in the actual block, but again, in this scale, it is a detail easily left out without degradation of the intended structure. And the effect is still quite convincing. Thanks for noticing. Rob
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This is why this image is so helpful. You have just the main yard to use for measurements. Remember when I told you some time ago that clipper builders used other components of their ships to be measuring stick for yet other portions of their ships? Well in this case the main mast is 91ft long...so is the main yard...91ft long. That is why I said that by a simple rudimentary observation, you can see that the main yard is twice as long as the main mast is from deck to tops. Its a magical symmetry built into the design of the vessel. Rob
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