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It has become clear to me that the symmetrical boat davits are located (the aft ones), just forward of the iron hand rail of the aft poop rail and the forward ones are located between the main channels and the additional or modified back stays. Every image shows this and this image is the best. Rob
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Whenever I model furled sails...It is best to reduce the sail material to a third of its mass...sometimes even less....so you can have less out of scale material to furl. Even material as close to scale, needs to be reduced to make it convincing. On my last attempt, on my old, original version of Glory of the Seas....I wanted a bit more sails exposed, unlike the thin natural example in the image. However, I am not planning on putting sails(at this time....things do change, however) on this version of Glory. Rob
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While I am not in the shipyard...I am still doing research...and studying images trying to validate the true location of both port and starboard davits...it became clear what was happening on the aft deck of the Glory, in this image of her in San Pedro in 1907. It appears that this is the moment that she is getting her catwalk....that bridges between the carriage house and the boys cabin removed. One rail section is clearly seen being positioned. This is furtherly corroborated by noticing, that the main yard is being employed to do the heavy lifting, as she is swung about to starboard. A man can even be made out standing on the boys cabin just aft of the extricated rail....assisting in its removal. It, remains unclear when exactly she received this feature. I have determined that all of her davits are uniform and symmetrically placed on her hull. Photographic evidence shows both port and starboard locations are the same. The aft davit is roughly forward of the aft rail and the forward is mounted just aft of the main channel.(Or it is within the channel?) Why I am still researching. Rob
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Thanks Vlad...I appreciate that. I'm sorry to all who are anticipating more posts and updates. I have been out of state visiting family and will be tied up most of the month with various holiday issues. I hope I can slip away for some shipyard work, but we will see. Holidays, this time, are more precious due to the nightmare of Covid restrictions. We are free and will continue to honor our Lord. I wish all my MSW friends and fellow Glory hounds a wonderful FREEDOM filled holiday Season. Rob
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I fully welcome your return and am anxious to see you continue..... Rob
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Thanks Rich...I wanted Mike to have them. He is so gracious. He began this adventure over 40+ years ago and we are rounding the corner to completion. Just a year or two left to go....... I hope I have her finished before then....... Rob
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Interesting......so if Knowles had her for several years(Possibly 4) before adding the new back stays...and if he is the Captain who extended the wheelhouse(And all the other deck mods)...Walters painted her sometime before 1874. Because it was already noted by her previous captain, captain Sears, that her sailing ability under full sail was diminished...meaning it was unsafe to *Load* her masts with full sail. Due to insufficient stabilization...hence her routinely, slow passages. Now it wasn't until Knowles recorded a fast passage from NY to SFS in late 1973 to 1874, that it seams clear it wasn't until her rigging was stabilized with the addition of the 2 new backstays(On her Fore and main masts) that this was accomplished. So Glory received her wheelhouse and deck mods sometime after 1871 and her new backstays could have been added around mid 1873.....(after the recorded routinely slow passages, but before the recorded fast passage). And Walters painted her between 1872 and late 1873. The story is coming clear...well clearer anyway. Rob
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So that means Walters saw and painted her before she received her new back stays. In 1870? Then she received her helm mods before that? Just after she was built? Makes no sense. When did Knowles take command……before or after her major 1872 refit? Rob
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Pat…..you must not forget that you can’t compare the single “stick “ mast as depicted in the photograph to the different dimensioned mizzenmast of her original composite banded masts. Banded masts can appear wider. I myself, had to remeasure time and time again to keep them as correct as possible. Thank for paying close attention. Rob
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That is the best compliment one can receive……..thanks TBlack. Rob
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Thanks Rich. I hope Mike agrees. I think she is a pretty close likeness myself. I’ve worked hard to make her so. And without yours and Vlad’s help, I would be no where near this far or as close to her true shape. Rob
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Before I get going full steam on building the masts I wanted to take a couple of comparison shots of existing photographs and my model.
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Well done Doug and finely executed. Well researched and wonderful attention to detail. Congrats. She will bring you years of viewing pleasure. Rob
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I'm only concerned with what I see in her San Fran photo of 1877. We need someone to pull a Michael Mjelde and compile this documented remodeling info timeline. I'm far too busy building her to allocate any time to sucha worth while pursuit. At this time. Rob
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