rwiederrich
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I’m gathering this feature is a vent or skylight of some kind. She had it prior to her mods. Rob
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Thanks Tony Im trying to keep her clean and straight. Rob
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Yes. I’ve seen other images that are not as clear showing the cant of the vent. Thanks Rob
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Thanks Rich. keeping everything plumb and level so it is clean and sharp is tough in this scale. But as you can see, quite doable I still have to figure out the roof venting. It looks as if it has an aft can’t to it and that it is taller in the front. I’ll need to do more research. Rob
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Thanks Vlad. Panel work takes the longest time. Some of it is only 1/8” long. Rob
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I suspect for weathering purposes the hinges are internal hidden hinges so the door has unexposed edges to keep out heavy seas. Rob
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My search was fruitful. I knew she had to have more windows for the helmsmen and more access via more doors. Those forward doors probably are the new access below into the main aft cabin Rob
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While we are on the hunt, a new clue has arisen. This image, apart from several things, shows the port door of the carriage cabin open and it appears to be swung open to the left. Definitive for sure Rob
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Here are some pics to show what I’m talking about Rob
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I’ll sand and repaint when I add more windows and the doors. Rob
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Did you see the extra doors on the starboard side? This is after her 1872 mods but before her conversion to a barge for coal and fish. Rob
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Glad……that looks wonderful. Clean and precise Great job Rob
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Thanks for reproducing the drawing Mike did Rich. That is the one I saw some years ago. It was nice to see it again, since I don't recall how or when I saw it before. I agree...I think the doors are sliders...but the door knobs throw me off. If the doors were as normal doors the outside knob is correct and it would be on the left as it is in the photo if it was swung open. If the doors were sliders...there would be no need of a knob on the doors left side on the outside of the door. It's a mystery...cuz I'm missing something...somewhere. Rob
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Yes, but in the pic of her last seen under sail the helm house has 2 doors and 3 windows on the starboard side.......Check it out. Rob
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Vlad...you have to follow your own desire for your model...don't let us or anyone suggest what you should do or not do...or what you should redo It's a model for goodness sake. and that is an artistic expression venue. Paint if you want...leave it wood or copper or whatever. When all is said and done only you will have to look at it while the rest of us will never see it again. Rob
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What I'm working out is the location of window and doors on the helm house. Two image show slightly different configs...at least I think I see it that way. The stern image shows one port door and two windows...but this other image of her last open water image might show 2 doors and one more window? Rob
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No Rich, I appreciate it. sometimes, due to unforeseen issues(scaling, and construction mishaps) one has to make slight compromises in questionable items to fulfil requirements of a larger issue. My measurements for helm house height, length and even width(as you can see there are 6 fantail stanchions as is in the photograph) measuring the distance of the house and to each other. All these correct measurements and elements *SHOULD* make everything come out just right. but sometimes that just isn't the case when scaling. One item I think that is throwing off the view is the rail cap itself. One thing I discovered is that for the rail to work, meaning to have the forward stanchions canted inward at a drastic angle and then to slowly become plum as they move aft along the main rail....means the rail itself could not follow the outline of the edge of the hull, or the main rail. There had to be room allowance for the mizzen shrouds to pass by the railing. This slight forward offset....that had to then become aligned, was a difficult task to accomplish and in doing so changed the appearance of the poop deck lines. Ever so slightly. Now the house is properly aligned with the main rail(some slight issues here and there), but the railing can throw you off. The true difficulty...again, as I've said before, is translating all the elements flawlessly. Sometimes one or more elements need *tweaking*, or just plain altering to make the entirety work. Both the main aft cabin and the helm cabin are slightly angled to allow for the curve of the hull in that portion. But not everything is perfect. I wish we lived in a perfect world. We're shooting for it, but at times we over or under shoot. That's the nature of target practice. Rob
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When you asked me about that image, I tried to get you a copy, but I could not translate the PDF file to an image so I could send it to you. Glad you have it now. Mike has done some great work. And like I said before...I've somehow seen this image before and another showing there is some rounded posts with ornate roman style caps on them. Where is another matter. Rob
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Yes, I saw that too....I also saw that some time ago in my own research...probably because I've seen some details of the cabin face before and there is actually round pieces with ornate roman caps on them. Rob
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Wonderful indeed Vlad...just wonderful. there is so much paneling that you really have to pay attention. Not to mention the tiny work involved. My facing will be about half that size....I'm tackling all the inner paneling issues first...corners around windows....under eaves...stuff like that. And i have to ask myself...*How detailed do i need to go..since most of that detail will be lost once the mast, yards and rigging block any real view of it....not to mention the boat skid (With boats on it) and gang that will be directly over and in front of it.🤥 In smaller scales(even larger ones at times), some details can truly be forgone because there is just no way anyone will truly enjoy that detail because it is basically inaccessible. What hill is one willing to die on....... Sometimes some items are very difficult to scale properly...either because surrounding items force it out of scale because of their own issues, or because construction wasn't exact and slight alterations are necessary to make the entire piece work. Good job Vlad Rob
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I count 6 stanchions behind the helm house in the photo. I have 6 stanchions. The helm house is 8 scale ft tall, 1/8” per ft. sometimes scaling can be difficult, plus Its looking different , but it will all come together. Thanks for paying attention. Rob
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Thank. Right, She has so much to model. I plan on doing the houses right. With lots of paneling. I got the original drawing from Mike of the front of the carriage house. Along With yours I will do my best to be faithful to her builder Rob
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Worked for a little time on the carriage house and helm. stained the roofs an will continue to add paneling and moldings and the doors and windows. Rob
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