rwiederrich
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Oh...I'm patient. I'm spending time making items that will go on the model...they can be created long before they are actually needed. Funny that you would suggest I would have the model finished before I even get the bulkheads....heehee that's real funny...... Oh....I packaged up your book today and I plan on mailing it out today............Yippy...... Rob
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Nope..you are correct...the board is a bit high to the scale, thus not representing the true measurement....and the board is still to long. This is the test prototype. I will correct all errors and then cast the board in duplicating paste and then I can mass produce them all exactly alike. I'll need four. Good eye. Rob
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I'll use better wood too for the final trim for the rails and the planksheer trim. These are just test strips. Next...I was tinkering with the nameboard for Glory in my scale. The name board is 14ft long by 1ft high. I carved in the floral petals and then painted gold. Fixing the lettering was a bit tricky in this scale. I could do better and will...since this is simply a test example as i perfect the carving and tools used. One is posted next to the rule for scale and size. Rob
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I spent a bit of time today working on several things...first: I had to begin work on the trim scribe tool.... I made several designs of trim and post them here. These are probably not the ones I will use for Glory, but I experimented with designs and I ran several design cuts to see how the tool works. It's pretty nifty...all you do is draw the tool across the scale plank. Do this several times till you have the desired dept. Here are 3 examples..carved on 1ft wide scale timber...or 1/8"= 1ft for 1/96 scale.
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Everyone...one tidbit I failed to mention is that Mike had his first book republished and is carried by Mystic Seaport. The original manuscript published in 1970 had some textual and photographic errors that the original publisher had misidentified. One image in question was the opening leaf page that has an image of Donald McKay...actually contains an image of Donald McKay's office technician...it was erroneously identified as McKay. There are several other corrections as well. I had to have the 2000 republished volume for my library. It is thinner and made with modern papers. It will be a valued addition to my collection. Copies can be had at AbeBooks too. Rob
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Your draw tool is amazing...and it contains the scribes of many molding designs...I need to make one of those for sure. One other crucial question I must ask...how did you overcome the issue of bending the stern molding both longitudely and and sagittally? Making both of those curves in one trim can be extremely difficult. I'm also assuming you used the jig itself as the depth gauge? Rob
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I think my next invention will be to make the draw blades for making the planksheer and molding trim. I'll need to devise a clamping gig to hold the wood strip...while the blade is drawn across the strip creating the molding. I might also make a router table bit to do the job as well. (That will be fun) Rob
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Bitao..what was your process in making and scribing the planksheer and moldings around her hull? Rob
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Well.......I appreciate that .....but....actually, I am quite the unorthodox model builder. I don’t mind skipping processes typically held by the most revered modeler or taking liberties with techniques not typical to the purist of modeler. Being creative and inventive and a bit overboard are my coat of arms. Duct tape is a viable building material and paint covers a multitude of sins. But whatever form of trickery I employ, the final outcome must still be a scale replica, fashioned as accurately and masterfully as I can muster. I’m so glad you and Vladimir are fellow travelers on this journey. And I appreciate your kind words and continual praise. I really feel I’m just an average model maker.....who happens to be ingenious at times. I’m always trying to make things easier and less arduous. Your words are very kind. Now, back to that 5%...in your assessment what *tweaking* do you perceive is still required to attain a 100% correct hull design for Glory? What still makes you feel uncomfortable? Rob
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I completely agree. My *rant* was suggestive of the 5% you cannot interpret accurately....because of a lack of evidence or through the failure to truly validate an aspect. I don't believe any of us have been exercising artistic license in leu of true calculable data. But at times it will happen. Not every thing can be known...even from the limited photographic evidence we do have. It has been shown that even first hand recollections can be skewed. Exampled by the news paper articles we have inspected. Your attention to details has been paramount in us gaining a true picture of Glory's figure. Rob
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I'm an advocate of *There are many ways to skin a cat*. One persons way may not be another's...that's OK. I'm a hack builder..I tend to use other peoples engineered things and convert them into my own purpose. I'll use whatever material I can find to fashion into what ever I am building. I'm not a *Purist* by any stretch of the meaning. My model will consist of woods, plastics, paper, metals, waxes, fillers, bondo's, Gypsum, Just about anything I can use to create the final outcome. So don't be surprised...... Rob
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Hey Vlad...hows things coming along? Have you begun planking her yet? Rob
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That elusive 5% my be escaping us because we fail to recognize that it is actually artistic license. I can assure you, that even though we all are engaged and concur, we will all produce slightly dissimilar models of her. One, attenuates one small detail over another....one internalizes one aspect over another and will focus more heavily on their own interpretation of that aspect, or will not give it a thought. Scale, plays a huge part in ones representative depiction of detail....and skill provides the illusion or replication of that detail. Mike was telling me during our meeting that his errors were those caused by a single point of view and reference. If he had a group, similar to ours...bouncing opinion and observations off one another....with there own grasp of the subject matter and applied skills....he too would have produced a more accurate model/drawing of Glory of the Seas hull himself. He is tickled pink that after so many years, a group of like minded historian model shipwrights have taken up the task to pick up his mantle and push toward the mark of a true depiction of a beloved nautical masterpiece. Rob
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Doris is in a field by herself. To be named in the same sentence with her is truly an honor. I can only attribute my skill to God and to over 30 years of dental laboratory and machining experience. Plus its nice to have all the tools and goodies to help you. I truly do not attempt to compare myself to others ability...we all have our strong and weak points. I do, however, appreciate the encouragement and enthusiastic edification. Rob
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Yes Vlad...I have some extremely small crown and bridge bits that are smaller then an 1/3 of a mm to help in my carving...but I still think my ability to carve the human form is lacking. Good thing she was partially covered by a toga. I do fondly appreciate your kind words. I had hoped that if I start out with her as my opening subject and do well enough I will motivate myself to continue in her wake with similar detail. Your words are very motivating...thank you. I will be getting your book sent out soon. Rob
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Thanks for the wonderful compliment. It is as you say....a hard subject. A lot goes out to the original carver of her in full scale. Did you notice the bow image of Glory in your first name board picture?
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Well..I put my hand at carving a 7/8" Athena. It was a struggle but I think for this scale it will have to do. I just ain't no carver of the human figure.. It isn't perfect but.......I'm no carver....did I say that? Here are a few pics of my trouble.
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That might be true...I do have an extensive clipper ship library..not to mention all the other nautical ship books I have. Rob
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Yes that was also a factor that made her unseaworthy for sucha voyage. But We're gonna rebuild her in all her Glory......... Rob
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Samuel Samuels book...*From Forecastle to Cabin*...is then a must read for you Rich. It was an amazing look into the clipper ship life. Rob
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Yes...most likely because she was on the West coast and the state of her hull(hogged) and her extremely reduced masts and rigging....prevented her from making a trip around the horn. Just too expensive a prospect...and nobody on the West coast wanted her...not even San Fran. Rob
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Lastly..this is a bad image of the painting that will grace the dusk jacket of his new book....... Rob
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And lastly a new one of her at Endolyne prior to her burning.
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Here is another of her at the Tacoma cold storage docks...after her starboard name board and figurehead had been removed. A lot can be gained from this image.... I can't seem to right the image....
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OK....I promised some new images of Glory. Now Mike is still looking for his drawings of her stern carvings...but he assures me he has them and will soon send them to me. Here is an image of the stern of Glory...partially skewed by tree branches. But the stern name and origin are after she was sent to Ketchikan Alaska. You can make out all her new deck buildings and the like
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