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  1. rwiederrich
    How are things coming along Michael? Any progress in the kitchen? I was just reminded....not to be pushy, but did you ever get that piece of *Lightning* deck frame cut? Rob
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    Thanks for asking Vlad. I've been so busy with the garden and house work...that I only had time to check them out. They look wonderful....and if all goes well....tonight, after work, I will cut them free and dry fit them and then begin the assembly. I will post images of my progress....and hopefully...We, or (I) can move away from the planning and get right into the construction of the model and let this build log get started again. Like you....I'm drawing heavily from the boys over in the Flying Fish kit log as to some building steps and techniques....because you designed the bulkheads in accordance with the Flying Fish kits design. I'm feeling quite confident.....moving forward...since this build is in 1/96 or 1/8"= 1ft....I can use scale lumber I am milling myself. I'll post images tonight of what I get done....I still have to go to the dentist too.........blah...... Rob
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    Magnificent Rich..... Just wonderful. It is amazing to see that the ends are not symmetrical and are quite different in shape and contour. This nameboard survived for 174 years with possibly, 53 years of hard weathered work. Its preservation is a legacy of Glory of the Seas. Doing a bit more research it looks like this might be the starboard nameboard. The image we have (Thanks Mike), of Glory at pier side prior to her burning...shows the removed figurehead and the starboard nameboard. We know the figurehead was removed just prior to her burning and it is assumed the nameboard was also salvaged at this time.. Secondly.....if this is the port nameboard as you suggest,....the one depicted in the image has gold leaf or paint on each oak leaf cluster....but is not represented in this example.......???? And if this is indeed the starboard nameboard...why is it not gold leafed or painted on the oak leaf clustered ends to match the one in the image...???? Personally...I'm apt to think this nameboard may be one of the aft nameboards used when she was in port...since the story goes it was found in an attic. Possibly a good reason why it is in such a remarkable condition. My ramblings...... Rob
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    Thanks for the posts. My favorite is Samuel Warren too. I have a pretty good high quality image of it myself. His color combinations are slightly different from the image of her at San Francisco. He didn't paint her red mast banding...nor did he paint in her mast recesses white. He didn't paint her rail stanchions white. Other then that she looks like I plan on modeling her. Here is my copy of this painting if you wish it for resolution detail....to aid in your own model. Rob
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    I see...thanks for the explanation. Rob
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    I'm trying to figure out what offset for the bow bulkheads you are referencing? I understand the slight error for the aft 3 bulkheads.....needing the planksheer to correct the sheer...but what exactly is the bow error in the bulkheads? Is it the thickness of the bulkhead or the width of the frame size for the bulkhead? I'll probably notice it when i get home and open it up and begin to dry fit it all...but still? Rob
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    Yeah....it arrived...I'm so glad for you. I'm also glad that it too will find a special place in your heart and library. Michael is a generous man and I have been blessed by his generosity myself........ He started it all. I received the bulkheads on Monday...but because of the holiday and lots of company...I haven't opened it up yet.......However, that will change tonight when I get home from work. Thanks again so very much. Rob
  8. rwiederrich
    I’ll toss the coin. Looking over your vessel, I’d gather metal more suited.
  9. rwiederrich
    Fine wood working indeed. Nice open building. I plan on checking everything closely when I assemble and build the hull. I’ll keep everyone informed when I begin
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    Wait ....... Vlad did you receive your signed book yet? I can’t believe it takes longer then the bulkheads. So excited
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    Oh boy. I’m blessed. Thanks so very much.
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    Yeah, I can’t wait to start building her.
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    My assumption that the main deck Waterway was also 16" and not the 12". Your work up makes far more sense and that would also agree with my own assessment of your measurement of 6' 2 & 1/2". My early measurements make sense here too. By using orienteering measurements and styles it is easily calculated. I agree with your value. Rob
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    Rich....I'm a simple man...thustly I approach things simply. If I use a known measurement...say the length of the figurehead(7.5ft) or the distance of the centers of the bowsprits iron bands(3ft). I can easily deduce the distance needed to measure the height of the bulwarks. First, we know that the planksheer sits on top of the 16" waterway...we also know that the water way sits on top of the deck timbers. The decking sits on top of those same deck timbers. If the decking is 3.5" thick..we subtract that from the thickness of the waterway. The deck is then 12.5" below the bottom of the planksheer. Now...if we look at the exterior of the hull and identify the planksheer, we can conclude that the deck line is 12.5" below that. That is the point were we make our measurement up to the top of the monkey rail to determine the actual height of the bulwarks. The trick is remembering that the planksheer is NOT the level of the deck from the external. The lower channel bolts directly to the waterway and the frames....that is why it rests below the planksheer....externally. But internally...the deck level is 12.5" below the external planksheer. Most likely several inches below the lower channel(externally), if the lower channel was bolted to the upper middle of the waterway(which I suspect is true, because of structural reasons) Now take the known measurement, begin measuring from the top of the monkey rail amidships...down to were you suspect the deck to be(if the planksheer is roughly 3~4" thick and photographic images show the channel resting right under it and it is roughly 6" thick, it can be gathered that the decking is roughly 3" below that. From all of that make your measurement of the bulwarks. Over 6ft anyway My thoughts anyway. Rob
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    Rich I believe I misspoke that comment...I think I was actually referring to the planksheer that sits on top of the waterway...but made the error when transcribing my post. You are correct. Thanks for following along so closely.....It's keeps us all honest.......well correct anyway. Rob
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    Amazing work...the carpentry is wonderfully done and the minimalistic decking so one can see the interior is well laid out. Rob
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    Rich....your point is very valid. the classifications between extreme and medium clipper almost appears to be determined by the person making the classification....NOT the vessel itself. Many clipper designs had very flat bottoms and others had extremely sharp dead rises. I think the ratio between length of hull and cargo capacity might play into the confusing distinction. Place both dockside images of Glory and Young America next to each other and you are hard pressed to make any distinctive separation between the two designs....short of rig and bow structures. Even if you put her next to the Henry B. Hyde it is hard to make the distinction from clipper to *DownEaster*. Which means WHAT anyway? That she was made down East? Great Republic was an extreme clipper....however her ratio of hull length to cargo capacity was balanced...but she was ginormous. Personally...I think the distinction of *Extreme clipper* means you are thin...carry less cargo and speed is your only goal. Where as *Medium clipper* means you are thicker, carry more cargo(People and goods) and speed is relative to winds, currents, and the temperament of the Captain. HOWEVER...you are all clippers because the sharp entry and exit and length of the design is the greatest distinction making the model unique. Couple that with towering masts and extremely copious amounts of canvas to grasp as much wind as possible...and there you have the *CLIPPER*. All that other fluff, of *extreme*, *medium*, *half clipper*and *clipper like*...is stuff for hair splitters. IMHO.
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    Man...you didn't have to do that for me...However, I do appreciate it so vary much. I just can't believe I will begin again on Glory for a second time...this time with greater detail and model accuracy. You guys have been great! Thank you oh so very much. Rob
  19. rwiederrich
    How exciting....I'm full of anticipation. It's been quiet around here...I've been busy with lots of house projects and garden management things.. Spring! Have you received your book yet? It sure is taking its time....... Thank you so much....... Rob
  20. rwiederrich
    Using the imagery of Glory....we can conclude and model her bulwarks pretty accurately. It is, however quite clear she did have an *extremely* high gunwale for typical clippers of the time. She definitely had wash gates...similar to British clippers and the iron windjammers. those will need to be fashioned between frames and apparently on top of the waterways. Good work...indeed Rob
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    Rich...this poor image gives us a really good look at where things are located...with humans to compare to. I'm a simple man...thus translating what I see here to a 1/96 model will be quite simple actually. Boy....they sure cut her open to make this access point...to her main deck. Rob
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    Definitely no problem Vlad. I'm so appreciative...and I can't wait to begin my build. Can't wait till you get your book...then we will know how long it actually takes to travel that distance. No apology necessary for working hard and making a living. Rob
  23. rwiederrich
    Right.... Differentiating between inside and outside measurements can get mind boggling. Thanks for your timely attention and accurate description. I'll need to plot it all out for myself as well....so I can get my head around it as well. Good job. Rob
  24. rwiederrich
    OK...if we know that the bulwark is 6ft from Duncan...and your measurements from the top trim of the hood to the forecastle rail is 6ft...then simply mark a piece of paper with lines denoting the distance(This is called oratering measurements). then project that distance down the hull(accomodating for decreased distance due to horizontal diminishing and you will see that the top monkey rail down to the lower channel is 6ft. This is why I said the planksheer is not the level of the deck but most likely the level of the top of the waterway....and accounting fo the waterway to be sitting on the deck....that places the gunwal at 6ft or there abouts. The top rail of the forecastle is not the top rail of the main rail amidships. See......? Rob
  25. rwiederrich
    Confirmation, confirmation, confirmation. Looks like we are sittin pretty when it comes to these dimensions now. As far as the height of the bulwarks are concerned....and it remains a matter of translating known measurements to unknown to gain a full grasp of a pretty darn close hull of Glory. Good job everyone! I got another order of planking(deck and hull) in the mail and all my stanchions are made. I'll finish up some clamping ideas too. Figurehead is in hand and now I will begin on constructing the composite lower masts. But first I will build a miniature table saw to cut the 4 recesses in the stock dowel. I'm trying to build as much as I can prior to getting the bulkheads from Vladimir..such as constructing the house and cabin windows.....gathering the belaying pins/chain....trucks for the yards...etc..things like that. Rob

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