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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Archi in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Archi in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    I am beginning a painting of the HMS Mordaunt  1682 or at least using the data from the 1682 survey. It lists three poop lanthorns and one top lanthorns. The Van de Velde drawings show them to be of the circular type.Are there any extant sources from the period which will give some guidance as to their sizes?

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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from thibaultron in Capt. Bligh's longboat   
    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from SaltyNinja in Was Howard I. Chapelle Controversial   
    As a painter who attempts,rather crudely, to reconstruct the appearance of old ships from fairly inadequate sources, I understand that there are two paths for the maritime historian. The first is just reproduce the original data and let your readers work it out for themselves. The 2nd, which is in all fairness what I do in the end, is to present a more complete picture, albeit hypothetical, that is informed by merging other lines of research. H I Chapelle noted the reconstructions on his plans and told where he found his info. It is only recently with the rise of CAD do I see many plans being reconstructed to equal or exceed his work. Of the thousands who have red his books what percentage have taken that next obvious step and sought the archival documents he worked with to evaluate for themselves. It does have to be admitted that there were varied and strongly held opinions on that Constellation mess. I think most of those involved at the time have either been broken up or rebuilt by now.
     
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Roger Pellett in Was Howard I. Chapelle Controversial   
    As a painter who attempts,rather crudely, to reconstruct the appearance of old ships from fairly inadequate sources, I understand that there are two paths for the maritime historian. The first is just reproduce the original data and let your readers work it out for themselves. The 2nd, which is in all fairness what I do in the end, is to present a more complete picture, albeit hypothetical, that is informed by merging other lines of research. H I Chapelle noted the reconstructions on his plans and told where he found his info. It is only recently with the rise of CAD do I see many plans being reconstructed to equal or exceed his work. Of the thousands who have red his books what percentage have taken that next obvious step and sought the archival documents he worked with to evaluate for themselves. It does have to be admitted that there were varied and strongly held opinions on that Constellation mess. I think most of those involved at the time have either been broken up or rebuilt by now.
     
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Justin P. in Was Howard I. Chapelle Controversial   
    As a painter who attempts,rather crudely, to reconstruct the appearance of old ships from fairly inadequate sources, I understand that there are two paths for the maritime historian. The first is just reproduce the original data and let your readers work it out for themselves. The 2nd, which is in all fairness what I do in the end, is to present a more complete picture, albeit hypothetical, that is informed by merging other lines of research. H I Chapelle noted the reconstructions on his plans and told where he found his info. It is only recently with the rise of CAD do I see many plans being reconstructed to equal or exceed his work. Of the thousands who have red his books what percentage have taken that next obvious step and sought the archival documents he worked with to evaluate for themselves. It does have to be admitted that there were varied and strongly held opinions on that Constellation mess. I think most of those involved at the time have either been broken up or rebuilt by now.
     
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from grsjax in Capt. Bligh's longboat   
    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in Capt. Bligh's longboat   
    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    After Bligh and his crew arrived in Batavia from Coupang onboard their schooner "Resource" both the schooner and the launch were sold on October 10 to raise cash.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in Book Suggestions   
    It's not nautical but the sharps series of books is about the same period but in the British Army. or something a bit lighter...the Flashman series by George MacDonald Fraser.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    Gentlemen ! Thank you. Positively perfect.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    The only contemporary picture I have found is  in "Great Ships" Frank Fox: a Van de Velde "Capture of the old prince. The sprit topsail is luffing around but appears very deep.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from druxey in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    Now a second question on the same vessel. How deep were sprit topsails? Deep enough to reach under the bowsprit and sheet down on the  spritsail yard arms or just deep enough to hang staight down level with the height of the spritsail yard above water? It would take some might long "sheet pendants" or such. Until you start looking there are very few paintings from the 1600's with sprit topsails set.Most if not almost all show them furled on the yard.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    I do have Endsor's book. He doesn't really say. I was just hoping that somewhere,any where there might be a source which gave the size for a third, fourth or fith rate of a reasonably close date. Just as a bsae line. I'll bet it was not standardized. There is of course the well known entry in Pepys diary where he claimed to have lured /dragged a women into the lantern of some naval ship and groped her at lunch on launching day. Certainly not acceptable behaviour today. He was notorious for demanding sexual favors from married women in order to advance their husbands careers. Not much use though he does not mention how tall the lady in question may have been
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from druxey in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    I do have Endsor's book. He doesn't really say. I was just hoping that somewhere,any where there might be a source which gave the size for a third, fourth or fith rate of a reasonably close date. Just as a bsae line. I'll bet it was not standardized. There is of course the well known entry in Pepys diary where he claimed to have lured /dragged a women into the lantern of some naval ship and groped her at lunch on launching day. Certainly not acceptable behaviour today. He was notorious for demanding sexual favors from married women in order to advance their husbands careers. Not much use though he does not mention how tall the lady in question may have been
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Mordaunt Lanthorns   
    I am beginning a painting of the HMS Mordaunt  1682 or at least using the data from the 1682 survey. It lists three poop lanthorns and one top lanthorns. The Van de Velde drawings show them to be of the circular type.Are there any extant sources from the period which will give some guidance as to their sizes?

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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from EricWilliamMarshall in What are your most interesting and/or useful books   
    I still have a great fondness for the works of Basil Lubbock: The Last of the Windjammers, The Colonial Clippers, The Tea Clippers, The Downeasters, The Western Ocean Packets, The Nitrate Clippers.
     
    Harold Underhill: Deepwater Sail,, Sail Training Ships, Masting & Rigging the Ocean Carrier.
     
    H I Chapelle, D R McGregor, Basil Greenhill, David Lyon, Brian Lavery, Rif Winfield, Robert Gardiner
     
    But far and away I still remember a day over 40 years ago. It was about midnight on a Tuesday and the the library was almost deserted. I was looking for a book on Revolutionary War Naval History for a college course and I came across a crumbling copy of the illustrated catalog for the Henry H Rodgers collection of models at Annapolis. I didn't know models like this existed.  I sat on the floor of the aisle deep in the stacks of the Howard Tilton Librabry of Tulane University slowly going from one model to the next. In 15 minutes I developed a fixation that continues to this very day.
     
    I own a copy now and take it off the shelf when the work is not going the way I know that it should. I tell myself that one day I will learn to do work like that.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from FrankWouts in HMS ROYAL KATHERINE 1664 by Doris - 1/55 - CARD   
    amazing
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Canute in Frank J H Gardiner Painting   
    A lot of the details show the ship as he would have seen her in dry dock in 1982. Not really as she is believed to have been configured in 1805
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Canute in Frank J H Gardiner Painting   
    To my untrained and age compromised eyes there is a similarity of style.
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    michaelpsutton2 got a reaction from Canute in Frank J H Gardiner Painting   
    I'm sorry but I did not get enough protein as a child to find Lot 20 on the link. Can you help?
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