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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Hi Michael
What a fabulous project - I love these pilot boats. Are you aware of any medium size wooden kits of Bristol pilot cutters on the market?
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Sargon in To use full length planks or not. (EDIT BY MOD)
Hi folks
Just looked in on this.
For what it's worth, the approach I have taken to this issue is to soften a plank of full length and pin it in place. I let this dry overnight. Then I take it off and cut the pre-bent plank into planks of around 30 scale feet (in the early 19th century on the US east coast they were cutting planks up to 40 ft - this will differ in different locations and different times). To cut the planks I use some little nippers which give the plank butts a very slight shamfer. Clearly when the pieces are butted together they fit perfectly.
Hope this is of interest.
Best wishes all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Tigerdvr in To use full length planks or not. (EDIT BY MOD)
Hi folks
Just looked in on this.
For what it's worth, the approach I have taken to this issue is to soften a plank of full length and pin it in place. I let this dry overnight. Then I take it off and cut the pre-bent plank into planks of around 30 scale feet (in the early 19th century on the US east coast they were cutting planks up to 40 ft - this will differ in different locations and different times). To cut the planks I use some little nippers which give the plank butts a very slight shamfer. Clearly when the pieces are butted together they fit perfectly.
Hope this is of interest.
Best wishes all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Martin W in Halifax by rafine - FINISHED - The Lumberyard - 1:48 - semi-scratch schooner
Fantastic craftsmanship Bob
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from mtaylor in Halifax by rafine - FINISHED - The Lumberyard - 1:48 - semi-scratch schooner
Fantastic craftsmanship Bob
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Elijah in Halifax by rafine - FINISHED - The Lumberyard - 1:48 - semi-scratch schooner
Fantastic craftsmanship Bob
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Bristol Pilot Cutter by michael mott - 1/8 scale - POF
Thanks Michael, Kieth,
I was looking for a plank on frame or at least a plank on bulkhead kit. I only have a dining table to work on so I don't have the facility for a scratch build. Perhaps one day I'll have a garden with a man cave in it.
There really does seem to be a dearth of 'working boat' kits
Wishing you all fair winds and a following sea.
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Canute in Halifax by rafine - FINISHED - The Lumberyard - 1:48 - semi-scratch schooner
Fantastic craftsmanship Bob
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Archi in Fantastic finish on this model. Any ideas on how its done?
Does anyone have any ideas what has been done here, particularly with the wonderful 'oak' below the waterline. Not just the wonderful coluor but the rough, weathered plank texture too. The model is of the Anne McKim built by Walter A Symonds in 1931 and is in the Addison Collection http://www.pa59ers.com/library/Addison/ships.html
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Salty Sea Dog in Endeavour 1934 by Julie Mo - Amati - Scale 1:35 - America's Cup UK J-Class Challenger
Fantastic Job Julie.
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from catopower in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
Finished first skin of planks - filled and sanded back. The outer skin will need to be finer!
Wishing you all fair winds and a following sea.
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from catopower in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
After a couple of weeks feeling very tired after my stroke, its a return to boat building
Now there's no longer any room for planking clips I've adopted the soaking method
The planks are spilled in pairs and then given 5 minutes in boiling water on the hob in the roasting tray - don't tell the missus. Don't let them get too soft. I think you want a bit of spring in them so they find a good natural line over the bulkheads without bumps where the bulkheads are.
I then pin them in place (NO GLUE) and leave to dry overnight.
The planks are then taken off . You can see the complexity of the curve (curved in all three planes at once - this would be very tricky, I think, with the hot plank bender). Like this, they just fall back onto the bulkheads without any forcing, ready to be glued.
The planks are then glued and pinned.
Because the spilled ends of the planks would split if pinned, I use acrylo-cyanate glue (just on the ends), cover the piece with cling film and hold it with my thumb whilst applying the pins to the rest of the plank. I think it's a good idea to remove the excess PVA at this stage as it's a devil to sand.
Wishing you all fair winds and a following sea.
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from _SalD_ in To use full length planks or not. (EDIT BY MOD)
Hi folks
Just looked in on this.
For what it's worth, the approach I have taken to this issue is to soften a plank of full length and pin it in place. I let this dry overnight. Then I take it off and cut the pre-bent plank into planks of around 30 scale feet (in the early 19th century on the US east coast they were cutting planks up to 40 ft - this will differ in different locations and different times). To cut the planks I use some little nippers which give the plank butts a very slight shamfer. Clearly when the pieces are butted together they fit perfectly.
Hope this is of interest.
Best wishes all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Julie Mo in Endeavour 1934 by Julie Mo - Amati - Scale 1:35 - America's Cup UK J-Class Challenger
Fantastic Job Julie.
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Omega1234 in Endeavour 1934 by Julie Mo - Amati - Scale 1:35 - America's Cup UK J-Class Challenger
Fantastic Job Julie.
Best wishes
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo reacted to cog in Endeavour 1934 by Julie Mo - Amati - Scale 1:35 - America's Cup UK J-Class Challenger
It looks like it is cut from a single piece of wood ... smashing job, Julie ... darn beauty
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo reacted to Julie Mo in Endeavour 1934 by Julie Mo - Amati - Scale 1:35 - America's Cup UK J-Class Challenger
I got all the mahogany strips for the keel glued in place and smoothed. It turned out okay.
Then came the lacquer, mostly to protect the bare wood from contaminants.
I took the hull outside to spray the lacquer. With the house closed up, the lacquer smell permeates every room, even with the shop door closed. So the hull got a little sun today.
After I get the deck glued down, I'll trim the planks flush.
On a sad note, when I was gluing the keel strips in place, I used rubber bands around the hull. At one point I placed the stern on the floor to put some rubber bands on at the bow. The bow was leaning on my knee with the keep in the air. The weight of the keel spun it around and I heard a sickening CRUNCH! I looked at the stern and about half of the planks on the transom broke off below the rail line. Two steps forward, one step back...
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from tasmanian in Halifax by rafine - FINISHED - The Lumberyard - 1:48 - semi-scratch schooner
Hi Bob
I'm currently building my first - (Panart Lynx)
Seeing your build is an utter inspiration - I hope, one day, to be able to emulate a build like this
Fantastic.
Wishing you, as always, fair winds and a following sea
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from Sgt Mike in To use full length planks or not. (EDIT BY MOD)
Hi folks
Just looked in on this.
For what it's worth, the approach I have taken to this issue is to soften a plank of full length and pin it in place. I let this dry overnight. Then I take it off and cut the pre-bent plank into planks of around 30 scale feet (in the early 19th century on the US east coast they were cutting planks up to 40 ft - this will differ in different locations and different times). To cut the planks I use some little nippers which give the plank butts a very slight shamfer. Clearly when the pieces are butted together they fit perfectly.
Hope this is of interest.
Best wishes all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
Hi Folks,
Just thought I'd pop this picture on the forum.
I'm applying the outer planking and can't get the clamps to the new planks as they're bent and glued, so I'm having to pin them as I go. This, of course, leaves holes. I think, ordinarily this shouldn't pose a problem, particularly if, like Ben Lankford in Building First Rate Model Ships From Kits, you're going to fill and sand umpteen times. However, I want to retain the grainy texture so I want to minimize the use of filler.
My solution is to fill the holes with a spile cut from a cocktail stick, apply a tiny amount of PVA and tap in using a large half round file. When the glue's set you can nip them off close and when it comes to sanding they can be made flush. I'm painting the hull so the difference in wood won't be visible.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from popeye the sailor in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
Hi Andrew
Thanks for this - I'd have loved to have seen it.
Thanks Juhu
I have a picture of this ship as my PC wallpaper currently. I think the biggest issue in terms of it being a replica rather than a mere 'interpretation' is the stern. The 1816 lines show more of a 'lute' stern whereas this ship has more of a counter stern. The model kit seems to hedge it's bets on this issue too, so I removed about 18 scale inches from the transom area so that the rudder now descends almost straight down from the transom board as in the 1816 in Chapelle.
According to Chapelle, she should have seven gun ports per side. I think the shallow entry of the bow to the water on the new ship is beautiful, but I don't think its in keeping with the early 19th century. Again, the plans in Chapelle show a steeper, more convex entry into the water. \i think the new ship has been designed to be a bit more friendly, particularly where 'pitch' is concerned - but then, what would I know
Did you get a chance to go on board? I'm hugely envious, I love Boston.
Wishing all fair winds and a following sea.
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from mtaylor in To use full length planks or not. (EDIT BY MOD)
Hi folks
Just looked in on this.
For what it's worth, the approach I have taken to this issue is to soften a plank of full length and pin it in place. I let this dry overnight. Then I take it off and cut the pre-bent plank into planks of around 30 scale feet (in the early 19th century on the US east coast they were cutting planks up to 40 ft - this will differ in different locations and different times). To cut the planks I use some little nippers which give the plank butts a very slight shamfer. Clearly when the pieces are butted together they fit perfectly.
Hope this is of interest.
Best wishes all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from mtaylor in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
Hi Folks,
Just thought I'd pop this picture on the forum.
I'm applying the outer planking and can't get the clamps to the new planks as they're bent and glued, so I'm having to pin them as I go. This, of course, leaves holes. I think, ordinarily this shouldn't pose a problem, particularly if, like Ben Lankford in Building First Rate Model Ships From Kits, you're going to fill and sand umpteen times. However, I want to retain the grainy texture so I want to minimize the use of filler.
My solution is to fill the holes with a spile cut from a cocktail stick, apply a tiny amount of PVA and tap in using a large half round file. When the glue's set you can nip them off close and when it comes to sanding they can be made flush. I'm painting the hull so the difference in wood won't be visible.
Best wishes to you all
Don
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Rat-Fink-A-Booboo got a reaction from mtaylor in Lynx by Rat-Fink-A-Booboo - Mantua Panart - First wooden model - Building as 1816 Musquidobit
Thanks Juhu
Once saw Pride of Baltimore I in Baltimore Harbour - then she went and sank. Not seen POBII, but when I next travel to the 'states I would love to.
Gonna press on with this as it's providing lots of little problems, which, by solving I learn. Also, I think that absolute authenticity is obviously impossible - the level of detail at which you 'stop' is always going to be arbitrary - so I have in mind an appearance that evokes the 'romance' of these vessels rather than the rather sterile (to my mind) appearance on the box.
Still, long way to go yet.
Best wishes
Don
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