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  1. iMustBeCrazy
    G'day Tony, Actually, I didn't. I haven't delved very deeply into all the sisters, half-sisters, cousins and nieces, there's too many. Cutter then Schooner is the way I see it, the Cutter painting is dated 1840 and the sailplan 1841 so that works. I guess I will have to investigate Bramble further.
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    I needed a break from staring at lines on a screen. Midship frame 1:24 in MDF. 1:24 is massive! 1:48 might be too fiddly for PoF for me, top timbers would be like matchsticks.
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    Ok, new sheer plan based on the disposition of frames for Speedy (1828): Lots of work to go, all of these squares need to be filled (this is only stations D, B, 0, 2 and 4):
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    Unless you compare it to the crews.
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    Arrrrggggg!!!! Three steps backwards, after drawing up the frames at station 2 I remembered ZAZ6425 has two sets of station lines, then I realised that the sheer plan is based on station lines that have no relationship to frames. While this wouldn't matter for a PoB build I want these drawings to be able to be used for PoF. So I have to re-draw the station lines and sheer plan. Of course I don't have a table of offsets, but fortunately there is a shortcut I can take: By drawing a set of rectangles like the one in pink below, where points a and b are on the intersections of a station line and a reference line (in this case a water line) and point c touches the 45° degree line under the sheer plan, point d is the station line / water line intersection on the sheer plan. Unfortunately I don't have many reference lines on this drawing, basically just 4, so I have to base the shape of the 'frame' on those next to it.
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    First they became a fence, did you notice the latitude of Macquarie Harbour? 42° South, that's roaring forties. You might like this one then, Port Arthur the main penal settlement. https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1961910992/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1965082829&partId=nla.obj-1961946782#page/n26/mode/1up
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    An account of Macquarie Harbour and Sarah Island: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1956722306/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1965094843&partId=nla.obj-1961882571#page/n40/mode/1up Continuation: https://nla.gov.au/nla.obj-1956083842/view?sectionId=nla.obj-1959466639&partId=nla.obj-1956120316#page/n18/mode/1up
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    Ship building, Sarah Island 1832. The fence in the background is a windbreak the length of the island.
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    Apparently yes, I was aware of shipbuilding at Port Arthur but I assumed small vessels. It seems more likely that the 74 gun was probably built at Sarah Island in Macquarie Harbour on the west coast. http://www.ourtasmania.com.au/devonport/sarah-isld.html If I have it right, the shipyard was to the right of the bridge. A nearly completed Brig was stolen from there by 10 convicts and sailed to Chile but the amazing part is that they got it through 'Hells Gate' the entrance to Macquarie Harbour. https://viewer.slv.vic.gov.au/?entity=IE740422&mode=browse The entrance is just this side of the lighthouse.
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    Lower deck done (I think). It was interesting trying to work out the original Lapwing layout from under the revisions for Speedy, luckily ZAZ6347 for the Basilisk seems based on the original Lapwing. Somehow the squeezed 10 passengers in on the trip to Australia and I have a copy of an advert for 'First Class passage'
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    Deck done for now. Also tidied up those reference lines.
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    Sail plan, just for something different. EDIT: Sailplan updated, now includes spar dimensions an a scale. Please let me know of any spelling or terminology issues. Lapwing Sailplan 1in48.mc.pdf
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    A bit more progress. Deck almost done, just winches to do I think. I realise now that I should have drawn all those station lines and guide lines on different layers so I could turn them off, live and learn.
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    All I know is it's called 'nesting'. As for the stern, I don't blame you. I'd been looking at these drawings for months and didn't see it, then all of a sudden there it was.
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    Hope you don't mind if I throw a potential spanner in the works. I'm not positive yet but it seems like the transom has those sticky out ear thingys. I think the black lines below are the hull and the green the transom. I won't be sure until I get around to drawing the deck.
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    To try to ease my headache I put together a list of plans relation to the Lapwing etc. I don't think it worked. Lapwing related plans.pdf
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    Well, not an impossible fit. Agrees with some of the guesses I have made. But three different drawings have three different arrangements of the deadwood/keelson. And where did that trim on the transom come from?
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    Excellent! Brilliant! There's a 43 in the top left corner, probably when copies were made by or for the Danes. Was there a treaty at that time I wonder? On ZAZ6507 you can just make it out as indicated, it's a bit clearer on ZAZ6377 which shows both a hatch and a deckhouse. I'm guessing he based his model on the drawings Bruce has provided.
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    That was what I was referring to. The midship frame drawing seems to be taken from ZAZ6429 (1818) inking in the pencilled alterations. The deck plan has already given me some more clues, thanks again.
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    Thanks Bruce, not as such. The midship section appears later than Lapwing, ZAZ6428 is dated 1817 and shows the bloody great deck beam knee I posted above. The one you've posted seems to be 1818 or later. The deck plan/s are better quality than I have but still seem to be 1817 or later (or perhaps 'as built'). Still great to have, they will make things a little easier. EDIT: May have been a refit as she was still in service in 1843.
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    Lines from two different drawings (note the blue and black lines on the left): Digital lofting (note, 4 is a typo for station 6 but I'll call it 4 for now): so line 4 is too far to the left, it should run through the two circles. This is indicated by the kink in the pink line. The difference is not much more than the thickness of a pencil line on the original 1/48 plans. What I'm working from:
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    Many of the photos do, must be the lighting. The Lapwing ran aground at least twice, the outcome the last time wasn't so good. The Lapwing was on a Government mooring in Port Elliot South Australia , during a blow the harbour master had a Brig tied on astern of the Lapwing. The mooring failed and both ran aground. The Brig was saved. Interestingly, it seems that the Nightingale was launched as a schooner.
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    What little original information I have found does not indicate that any were clinker planked. ZAZ6429 Has some alterations noted, dated 1818, with carvel planking pencilled in suggesting that Speedy launched in 1828 was very likely carvel planked. But that's not proof. EDIT: Just checked his book and he says: "She is carvel built, and carries eight 6 pounder guns. Some readers may be aware that some of these cutters were clench built, although I have no evidence to show which method was used for 'Speedy', ---------" And as you mention class, most references give it as Nightingale class, however depending on how you classify them I suggest that the above vessels form three classes as I grouped them above: Lapwing (First of class) Nightingale (some alteration to frames, but I'm not sure what) Vigilant (First of an enlarged version of the Lapwing, about 6 feet longer, allowing for an extra pair of guns)
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    Midship frame, I think it's done except for the main hatch (I haven't gotten to the decks yet).
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    Moved from another thread: Oh, where to start without hijacking the thread too much. I think 1823, Vigilant was the lead ship in 1821 (I think). Yes, I have the plans and book but I think it's not quite right. Try ZAZ6430 (Lapwing see ZAZ6425-6431) And for Diligence note the companionway 'deckhouse' on ZAZ6347. Anyway, it's still all new to me as I only started as a family history exercise (my great great grandfather was part of the crew when Lapwing sailed to Australia in 1850). I may build a 1/24 PoF, unrigged but showing accommodation, or I may not. Might start with some bits and pieces in MDF first. This is where I'm up to:

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