NAZGÛL

Funny you should mention that lambsbk, as it was about this time the model got wet for the first time 
 
On October 4th 2009, I had taken my daysailer Lydia out and tossed Constellation in the truck.  When we got back I put the hull in the water for it's first float.  I forgot the rods that held the ballast on, so the closest thing that might be deemed a test was when I pushed the hull down to it's waterline.  No leaks.
 
 
On the 7th, wanting a better "test" I tossed her in the truck and took her to the end of my street to Sloop Cove - where else do you float a sloop of war, eh?
In total there was 50 pounds of lead on board; 42 in the torpedo, the rest in baggies placed in the hull.  There was also about 4 pounds more consisting  of battery, radio gear, and a couple of hand tools; plus her lower masts, which together don't weight half a pound.
She floated 2 inches above her load waterline.  I figure it'll take 12-15 pounds of internal ballast to get her down to waterline, that includes her running gear and battery.
   
 
Next up: Radio Control

HI Matti... Nice to see you building again..... will be following along on this interesting build.
 
Frank

That is a promising start!
 
Jan

Hi Matti,
 
Good choice, nice design. As I can see, you used similar hull design as Vasa has.  I love galleons, I´m sure it will be the perfect build - I will watch it with great interest. BTW, what is the scale of this model? The frame looks quite big.
 
Jan

Hey pops! Very nice progress! Making a weathered paintjob on this model could be very very fun!
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

I like your choice of ship and your design of the ship itself. Were your fore-fathers shipwrights by any chance?
Will be following your built as it is part of my heritage, (Dutch).
Marc

Thanks for the food for thought gents!
 
I hope I haven't missunderstand what you mean, if so please tell me.
 
jbshan, the lower wale o the small pinass is not at the waterline, or did you mean any other pics?
 
Anton, you raised a question about the allround or warship type of ship. In my imagination I think Duke Karl (later Karl IX) would have much use for allround ships in his fleet as he used them for transport of goods to and from his duchy. If this is true or if Gripen was a more strict warship, I can't know. But I like that logic and plan to do her like that. I planned to give my model a deck setup like Kalmare nyckel or the pinass above. I haven't thought throuh how all the decklines would run.
 

 
I think the old pinass sketch is fairly close to mine when it comes to the gunports. I didnt do any railing above them like that has, but if you remove her railing its pretty close. I think the gun ports height needs to sit higher up on a smaller vessel, or she would need to have a bigger belly, bringing the water line up. I actually think it would be dangerous to put the gun ports one step lower on the Kalmar Nyckel replica, wich is pretty close in proportions.
 

 
I will look for more pictures of smaller dutch ships to see the placements of their gunports.
 
 
Thanks again for telling your thoughts, it's really helpfull!
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi all!
 
First I'd like to thank you all for the advices and information you've given in this thread.
 
I have now started to build the model and you can follow it here:
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10277-gripen-1591-by-mattinazg%C3%BBl/
 

 
 
 
/Matti
 
 

I also think it's a design, not the perspective.
 
I think it may have been designed like that on ships in different sized ship aswell, at least variants of it. Speculations only of course, but I see no reason why not. 
 
Actually they are pretty close up, especially the top left one. The smaller size of the top right is because of the small picture I found. The images are in different sizes. Here is the top right one uncut:
 

 
Still I'd like to make the gallery more simple, Partly as it would make it more in tone with the ship lines and I also want to make Gripen a more basic ship.
 
I got a feeling that simpler lines would feel more like late 1500 and less early 1600. That's just how I feel though.

Hey pops! Very nice progress! Making a weathered paintjob on this model could be very very fun!
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Hi everyone!
 
I have an interest in King Karl IX, Gustav II Adolfs father. Before reaching the crown he was a duke and was successful in developing his duches and he created his own fleet. And when he later went to war with Sigismund his fleet became an important part. When he later became king his fleet became part of the swedish fleet. As many men of power at that time in history, Karls seems to have been quite cruel but he did manage to reach remarkable goals in his life and laid the base of what Gustav II Adolf managed to achieve later on. For a while I'v been wanting to make a model of one of Karls ships. When going through the ship lists available I decided to go for the small ship called Gripen (griffin). Gripen was Karls symbol and is to be seen on Vasa stern as well when two griffins puts the crown on Gustav II Adolfs head. Making a model of Gripen will mean a lot of guesses on my behalf as very little is known. 
 
I like to build by eye and even if I made some basic plans and drawings, I will try to relax and do what feels right as I move the build along.
 
The design is inspired by the beautyful replica of Duyfken and by paintings by Vroom and other dutch artists. I would like to thank all who helped me with advices and opinions in this thread: 
 
http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9996-ships-of-the-late-16th-century/
 
In that thread you can also follow the steps I did when designing the model.
 
When I finished the Vasa build I had a pile of spareparts left. When looking at the parts I felt I'd like to try and reshape them into something else. I feel this gives me lots of freedom when building it as I can do whatever I feel like and that helps creativity. Worst thing that can happen is that I mess upp and then I can just through it in the bin. 
 
Step 1 was to design the model. As said that step is covered in the thread mentioned above.
 

 

 
 
Step 2 was to decide what size it would be in. I printed the drawings in different sizes and then decided. The scale is close to 1:70.
 
Step 3 was to make a more detailed plan just to get the basic set up of the frames and how to reshape them to the lines of my drawings.
 

 
Step 4  Was to do the actual reshaping. First before assembly, then reshaping again. The supporting parts are ugly but I liked the idea to just use the left over parts after sawing the frames. Ugly but easy to do and they will be covered later on. I needed the supporting bits to be stronger compaired to say how BB designed theis Vasa kit, as I had to reshape them in place.
 

 

 
Next step will be to make the stern, bow and decks.
 
 
/Matti

Good luck Matti!

Brilliant matti, will definitely follow with keen interest.

Aah, another Swedish ship. I won't pull up a chair, but the couch and pop corn

You've designed a pretty ship, Matti.  I'll be checking in from time to time to see how she develops.

This should be a fascinating build, Matti.  I'm pulling up a chair to watch.

the reels that I had placed at her stern,  were becoming a bother.   dry fitting parts and things.....I'd hit them with my arm of sleeve.......and it would push them out of alignment.   in the box was the netting I was going to use,  along with some tulle,  which I didn't need any longer.  what was salvageable,  I put it away........the rest I tossed {I have plenty,  and I know where to get more}.   I chose the green netting over the brown,  since that's what the kit would supply.   cutting it was a question for me also.......I though that a triangle would be best,  since I was to fold it into itself,  so it would fit the frame.  I made up the first one and cemented it in place.
 

 

 
I had thought of Kees,  and what he did with the bath netting sponge.   I had already bought a yard of this netting material,  so I went with it.  the piling kinda hides the scale of the mesh,  so it looks good.  I made up the other two.
 

 

 
the fore deck reel was put in place on the deck........I'm thinking what what I would use to rig it.   black thread......perhaps done with the silver and copper........or even the small size hemp thread.  I still need to plot out the rest of the fittings to do it.
 

 
the control; panel still need to be made for it.   sad that errands had to be run,  or I could have gone further.   the aft lights were the last aspect I tinkered with....besides painting that frame piece.   I added some tiny bars inside,  to simulate the florescent tubes,  and the insides  were painted silver.   they are not finished yet....still more to paint and add to them,  before they are cemented in place.
 

 
two more days.........and I will be on vacation.    I can't wait! 

once upon an idea...........there was a concept to build three boats,  all with a holiday theme.   they were part of an experiment,  to replicate hulls,  using kit parts panels.   in my opinion,  it was a success....the M&M fun ship being a completed build,  the trawler 'Syborn' well on it's way towards being the second ship to be completed.  the 'Syborn' is unique to me, because it was an added experiment in making the hull longer by adding in copies of key ribs, stretching the hull.  these two were created using the hull from the Billing's Mary Ann.......or even the Cux 87.
 
when I assembled the hull for the Boulogne Etaples,  I saw possibilities yet again.....and the three hulls were created from the parts panels from this kit.   I originally had three themes for the subject of Christmas,  but as time went on,  one of the themes fell through.  I was left with a hull without a theme
 
in building these boats.......I at least want them to be somewhat logical {although the M&M boat was more of an 'admiral's whim' }.   when I was making these hulls.......I had thoughts about the Andrea Gail.  I looked her up in the Billings catalog.....the bones were there...it could be done.   I kept her on the back burner.....I have projects started already...enough to keep me busy for a while.   maybe later.
 
months past...............
 
it was during my two month hiatus,  that the idea surfaced again.  I had downloaded the instructions for the R/C version of the A.G. and thought I would look at them.  I also found that there was also a static kit out there as well....smaller scale,  but just as detailed.  I thought about the Gundalow,  and how a simple article I read,  stopped me in my tracks.  perhaps that is the same problem here......can't say for sure......but you know it's pretty chronic,  if the admiral starts to take notice
 
if you've been following the Holiday Harbor build,  you've seen the modifications that needed to be done,  to create the basic hull.   I found an interesting article:
 
Perfect Storm, The - THE ANDREA GAIL
 
seeing the movie about the Andrea Gail during the time frame made me want to attempt this,   all the more.   I wish i had saved a copy of the search records.......they never found Capt. Tyne or his crew.
 
....and so......to where I am now.   the hull and the pilot house has been created.   the hull needs to have the external rails done,  and soon the paint.  I'm using the Billing's plans as sort of a practicum,  so......if you see something that may not be exactly correct,  it's just me keeping the copyright monster at bay {but it will be in the ballpark though}.  here is the hull and where I am now
 

 
I only had a chance to sand down the roof line of the pilot house so far....more needs to be done.
 

 
the ice maker looked too deep to me.......I took about 1/4 of an inch from it,  so that it would sit under the cut - a - way on the starboard side.
 

 

 
lastly.......here is the boat that they used in the movie......you can see on the bow where they had changed the name.