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Hi Greg Thanks for the alternative method.....never thought of using my Byrne's saw.....went straight for the Miller! There are various other joints to be cut and I shall give your method a go. Must re read the swan practicum and pick up some more tips Cheers....mick

WASHINGTON GALLEY PART 1 HI ALL WOOD HAS FINALLY BEEN CUT. STARTED WITH BASIC KEEL COMPONENTS. MAIN KEEL CUT 3/16 WIDE BY 7/32 DEEP. FALSE KEEL 3/16 X 1/16. HOG 3/16 BY 3/32. ALL CUT FROM SHEET MATERIAL ON THE BYRNES SAW. I DECIDED TO DO THIS IN THREE SEPERATE PIECES AS IT WOULD BE EASIER TO PROFILE THE REBATE. THE HOG(?) HAS PROVED TO BE QUITE A TASKING PIECE TO MAKE ACCURATELY. THE PIECES IN THE PHOTOS ARE THE FOURTH ATTEMPT!!!! I ORIGINALLY ASSUMED THAT THE SPACE BETWEEN THE DOUBLE FRAMES,WHICH ARE 1FT THICK(SIDED) OR 1/4 INCH ON THE MODEL WOULD BE EQUAL TO 0NE FRAME THICKNESS OR 6INCHES IN REAL LIFE (1/8inch) ON THE MODEL.A QUICK MEASUREMENT LATE A NIGHT SEEMED TO CONFIRM THIS. WRONG!WRONG!WRONG!............MEASURE TWICE OR EVEN THRICE.......CUT ONCE! THE ACTUAL MEASUEMENT IS 9/16 ON AN INCH. IN ORDER TO CUT THIS ACCURATELY I HAD TO DEVISE A JIG FOR THE MILLING MACHINE ( SEE PHOTOS) BUILDING BOARD AND FRAME PLAN PREPARED AND ALMOST READY FOR USE. A FEW JIGS HAVE ALSO BEEN MADE FOR HELP IN FRAME ALIGNMENT....BUT THESE MAY HAVE TO BE REDONE AS THEY MAY BE ON THE CLUNKY SIDE. THATS ABOUT ALL FOR THE MOMENT.....BACK TO WORK WE GO CHEERS....MICK

hi carl wood has finally been cut!!! see next post cheers......mick

Hi Chuck Thanks for looking in. Currently doing some prep work.....building board , bow and stern support blocks etc. Will post some pictures of current progress asap. Haven't actually cut any wood for the model yet! Cheers....mick

Hi David Hopefully! The only way we learn is by asking questions. Looking forward to my first full hull pof. Cheers....mick

Hi Carl Sounds like fun......but you might not be capable of paddling back!!!! Cheers....mick

Hi Carl Only a quick hop across the channel for you.....nice couple of days in dear old blighty...maybe a trip to Chatham for theropery and model ship collectionand then on to timberline to pick up all that lovely hardwood.....just a thought! Cheers.....mick

Hi Christian It is somewhat different. I decided to have a go as it looks like an ideal subject for a first attempt at a full pof hull.....not too many awkward half and can't frames and some interesting stern framing.....also only one main deck and fairly simple rigging. Should be a nice contrast to the previously built sloop from 1776. Let's hope I can do it justice. Cheers.....mick

Hi mike Yep its lovely stuff! Almost a shame to cut into it.must have been fully awake when I lookedat the plans! Cheers....mick

Hi Kurt No probs...must have been a rare occasion when I was actually awake when I looked at the plans and practicum!.....I have a feeling I will be asking quite a few more questions when I get to the more " funky" parts of the build. Cheers....mick

Hi mike Thanks for the reply. Let's hope I can do Jeff's plans and research justice. Itching to get started on my first full hull pof. Cheers....mick

Hi Kurt I will be going with chucks advice and placing the keel scarfs in the vertical plane...it makes sense to me and itwas common 18c practise. Looking forward to getting started! Cheers....mick

Hi mike Very nice build...been following with great interest as I'm just about to start work on the same model. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind me asking! Firstly regarding the keel scarfs....as far as I understand 18c scarfs were cut in the vertical plane whilst Washington's seem to be cut in the horizontal plane? I'm assuming it's correct but just wanted some clarification as I don't want any historical boo boos. The second question relates to the room and space of the framing. Measuring directly from the plans the frames are 1/4inch (2x6 inchs in real life) and the space is 1/8 inch,again 6 inches in real life. This is consistent for the full length of the keel, including half frames and cants? I'm measuring to very slight desrepancys on the plans. Maybe due to the printing? Any help you can offer greatly appreciated. Nice work on those hawse timbers aswell....I shall be copying your method!!!! Cheers.....mick

Hi Dave Yep...can't wait to cut some timber. Gonna haveto get the next four nights back to grindstone out of the way first! Cheers....mick

Hi all I forgot to mention it in the opening post. Regarding the keel scarfs....the plans and practicum show the scarf in the horizontal plane , I was under the impression,especially after looking through Goodwin,that 18c scarfs were cut in the vertical plane? Is this a peculiarity of colonial shipwrights? I'd hate to make a boo boo during the first piece of timber! Also are there any written references/text books concerning the building of colonial naval ships at or about this time,1776? Any help greatly appreciated! Cheers....mick

HI ALL I THOUGHT ID LAUNCH A NEW TOPIC TO RUN IN PARALELL WITH CHUCKS CUTTER CHEERFUL. PLANS HAVE BEEN PURCHASED AND STUDIED FROM THE NRG. PRACTICUM HAS BEEN DOWNLOADED.....I HAD THIS SPIRAL BOUND AT A LOCAL PRINT SHOP JUST TO KEEP EVERYTHING TOGETHER. BOXWOOD HAS BEEN ORDERED AND DELIVERED....IN 2 DAYS!!!!! I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO ORDER THE PRECUT PACKAGE FROM CROWN TIMBER.......HOWEVER WHILST I DO NOT DOUBT THE QUALITY OF JASONS PRODUCTS THE COST OF DELIVERY PLUS 20% VAT AND POST OFFICE HANDLING FEES WOULD HAVE PUSHED THE PRICE TO CLOSE ON £400. I USUALLY USE A COUPLE OF COMPANYS FOR TIMBER ONE BEING ARKOWOOD AND THE OTHER BEING TIMBERLINE IN KENT ,UK. I PHONED TIMBERLINE AND SPOKE TO BOB GIVING HIM A LIST OF REQUIREMENTS ( SCANTLING LIST IN BACK OF PRACTICUM) ALL IN IMPERIAL DIMENSIONS. THAT WAS YESTERDAY MORNING. AT LUNCHTIME TODAY TNT TURNED UP WITH A NICE BIG PARCEL. ALL BOXWOOD TIMBER PROCESSED TO THE RELAVANT THICKNESSES IE THE CLOSEST METRIC EQUIVALENT. THE 1/4 INCH THICK WORKS OUT AT 6.35MM.......AND IT IS!! THE SAME APPLIES TO ALL OTHER THICKNESSES. HOWS THAT FOR CUSTOMER SERVICE? I CAN HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BOB AND HIS TEAM HAVING DEALT WITH THEM FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. THE ONLY THING WORTH MENTIONING IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO PLANE A STRAIGHT EDGE ON SOME OF THE TIMBER SHEETS.....HOW HARD IS THAT FOR A MODELMAKER?....AS THE SHEETS ARE CUT FROM A FAIRLY ROUGH SAWN BILLET. I DIDNT ORDER ANY 1/16 AS IALREADY HAD SOME ON STOCK. THE 1/32 IS MAINLY FOR DECK PLANKING FOR WHICH I INTEND TO USE SOME ENGLISH HOLLY. AND THE PRICE FOR ALL THAT LOVELY BOXWOOD (IN 1METRE LENGTHS) ? INCLUDING VAT AND DELIVERY IT CAME TOO £164 A SIGNIFICANT SAVING FOR ME. BUILDING BOARD HAS BEEN PREPARED SO I GUESS WERE READY TO START. BUT FIRST FOUR NIGHT SHIFTS HAVE TO BE GOT OUT OF THE WAY! CHEERS............MICK

Hi mark Many thanks....no rush...but lots of projects to do! Cheers....mick

Hi David Many thanks. The next project is the Washington galley as well as chucks cutter. So lots of frames and cants ,stern framing,hawse timbers etc. Should prove interesting! Cheers....mick

Hi Bob Many thanks.pleased how its turned out. Ready for the next challenge! Cheers....mick

Hi john Many thanks.kept me busy for twelve months! Amazing how time fly's....I wonder how long the next one will take? Cheers....mick

Hi Carl Thanks yet again! Flatscreen goes tomorrow so uninterrupted view restored! Cheers....mick

hi all hms triton cross section is now finished! i havnt rigged the training tackles. i like the model in its simple uncluttered form. the relieving tackles were never going to be fitted as ive left the deck planks off to help show the deck construction.....this was a contributing factor in not fitting the rest of the tackles. i have however fitted the stanchions and rails around the hatchway.....pretty much a direct lift from the swan class practicum. once again thanks to all the staff and moderators whose work in preparing the plans made my humble attempt even possible! final photos enclosed. cheers....mick p.s. excuse the junk in the final photo.old flatscreen awaiting collection by a fella who i work with!

hi christian thanks for looking in. been an interesting introduction to pof construction. now for the next step.....a full hull in pof....in this case the washington galley courtesy of the nrg and jeff stuadt,, should prove interesting! cheers ....mick

hi hans christian great work so far.i shall be following very closely as this ship is on my "to do" list. look forward to your progress. cheers.............mick

Hi Pete Many thanks for the compliments. Been an interesting and at times challenging project.......always aspired to a proper plank on frame build ever since I read Peter danks hms mrymidon articles in model boats magazine many years ago. Never thought I'd ever get there but.....steady as she goes! The next project along with chucks cutter cheerful will be.......... The Washington galley courtesy of the nrg , currently studying the plans and practicum and waiting for my boxwood to arrive. Looking forward to a fully framed build Cheers....mick