Lou van Wijhe

7 hours ago, hof00 said:

Looks awesome Sir!!

Great "Bending" of sails to Yards."

 

I am in awe....

 

Cheers....HOF.

Me too...

13 hours ago, keelhauled said:

Hi Harry,

 

G.F Campbell created a set of three plans which have been available through the Cutty Sark's gift shop for at least the past 28 years.  When I bought mine, they offered to stamp the plans with the ships original seal.  Campbell was a navel architect that as I understand it was commissioned to draw plans during the 1st half of the 20th century.  Campbell also wrote a couple books on clippers.

 

Lou, if you are following, perhaps you can give us some info. 

The 3 plans by Campbell are the ones made for re-rigging the ship in the nineteen fifties (source: Paper "The Restoration of the Cutty Sark" by Frank G.G. Carr. Read in London at a meeting of the R.I.N.A. on March 24, 1965). The name changes from Cutty Sark Preservation Society to Cutty Sark Trust etc. have to do with organisational changes; there are no different Campbell sets (albeit ones of different copy quality).

Lou

Hallo Ed,

I've been following your build log with much interest and like the detail photographs that go with it. I remember you once mentioned you sometimes had trouble changing your photos to have the correct colour balance. Instead of post processing them you might check if your camera has the possibility to set the colour balance beforehand. This setting is mostly called white balance. If you set the colour balance on a white surface, like the backdrop (if that's the correct word) on your display box, every other colour comes out correctly. As you can see yourself, on the photos your backdrop often has a slight colour tinge, it is not purely white.

Lou

Great! I store valuable tips like this using http://www.web2pdfconvert.com/. Free and handy.

Lou

Bill,

A mill's feeds and speeds are to a large extent governed by the material you are working on. Maybe this calculator can give you some insight.

Lou

Hobbie,

Do you know The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships by Longridge? It's authoritative and doesn't cost the earth.

Lou

Always hated moving myself. Done it twice in the last 3 years, so I can sympathize. Hope it goes smooth and well for you.

I'm 75 now and I decided to only move finally when I'm in a wooden box. And I just realised I must update my avatar; up to now I accumulated a lot of years and a lot of weight.

Lou

Another rebus ... color of front name panel

or it is just playin' of the light?

Nenad,

It is the light, indeed. The panel is definitely black.

Lou

I'm sure I had read somewhere that the planking of the sides on these ships were planed smooth before painting, but I have not yet been able to find the reference. ...

Hello Ed,

George F. Campbell in China Tea Clippers (ISBN 0-679-20207-2) wrote on page 96:

Externally the hulls on American clippers were frequently described as being glass smooth with an enamel-like finish. The seams of such planking would be finished off with a putty compound over the caulking. This would last until the ship started straining, when the seams would inevitably show again. No doubt many British clippers had a similarly high quality finish also, but in some cases the adze was the finishing tool. The Cutty Sark when seen with light reflecting on the hull shows these adze marks quite distinctly, but possibly in her case the finishing touches were rather hasty, owing to financial trouble during her building.

 

This might be the reference you were looking for.

Lou

Nenad,

Part of your brush problem may be caused by the fast drying time of acrylic paints. You might try using an acrylic drying retarder, ask your art-shop (or mix it yourself...).

I admire your work!

Happy New Year,

Lou

Nenad,

She is looking more and more like the real thing! I especially like your choice of brass for the sheathing; it looks much more like Muntz Metal than the usual copper.

Lou

Little digging information about "Star of India" sign ... and become a little confused ... Do anybody know reason why this sign is on CS? Wikipedia get me confused ... 

Hi Nenad,

I think I can satisfy your curiosity with the following quote:

Another stern decoration that Linton designed, which has been preserved on Cutty Sark today, included the dreadful pun, "Where there's a Willis a Way". Below it, although not part of Linton's scheme, was the emblem of the Most Exalted Order of the Star of India. This was probably copied, or perhaps even taken,  from Willis' favourite ship, The Tweed when she had been the Indian Marine's Punjaub.

The order has no known connection with Willis - it was established in 1861 by Queen Victoria to reward conspicuous merit and loyalty and was mainly awarded to maharajas and senior military officers working in India - but the Order's motto, which forms part of the decoration, could not be more fitting for any ship navigating by the sun and the stars: "Heaven's light our guide".

(from "Cutty Sark, the last of the tea clippers" by Eric Kentley)

Around the time of the ship's restoration in the nineteen fifties, the original Star of India emblem appeared to be hanging over the staircase in the house of Mrs. Kirkaldy-Willis, a relative of John Willis. The emblem was presented to the ship, so this part of the decoration (or a facsimile thereof) is original.

Lou

I received the book today. In fact, it's the ship's biography from design up to the Conservation Project 2006-2012, beautifully illustrated. The book is about A4 size and it includes George Campbell's General Arrangement, Sail and Rigging plans as A3 foldouts (these attachments are too small, you need a magnifying glass to decipher them; it would have been better to enclose the full sized plans in a folder).

The book is NOT like the books in Conway's "Anatomy Of The Ship" series. For a model maker the book is more inspirational than anatomical. But for ship lovers it is certainly worth its price.

So, again as a model maker, do I need it? NO. Do I like it? YES.

Lou

Bob,

The easiest way is to order them online. If you Google with keywords like "ship model flags" you'll find numerous suppliers, like here. Should you consider doing it yourself, it could be done this way.

Lou

Last month Conway published this new book on the Cutty Sark. I did order it but didn't receive it yet so this is no review. However, from the description it looks very interesting.

Should you order it from outside the UK, do check shipping charges first. One supplier charged 15 pounds for delivery to Holland, which is almost the price of the book itself. Google for the best offers!

Lou

I've already decided on the wood to be used, and their dimensions.  Just need to finalize the size of the structure.  (Campbell says 6' by 2.5';  drawings that Nenad supplied, from Lou (?) say 36" by 81.25") 

 

Which is the more accurate?

 

(and I think to correct the Admiral's grammar   )

The drawing cutout Nenad already posted shows the wheelbox dimensions taken in the ship itself a couple of years ago. Here's a somewhat clearer picture of it:

It's a cutout from a set of drawings published by the Dutch Modelbuilders Society (Nederlandse Vereniging van Modelbouwers). The set (24 sheets) can be ordered from their webshop for 84,30 Euros + P&P. Should you be interested I could help ordering.

Lou

And to add something interesting

 

On Facebook appears group CUTTY SARK REPLICA PROJECT on https://www.facebook.com/cutty.sark.replica 

 

They shared next VERY USEFULL link for all clipper lovers

 

http://mcjazz.f2s.com/ClipperShipPlans.htm 

 

A lot to learn there !!!!

 

Lou, do you know this source of information ?

Yes, I do. I didn't read the whole text but at least all illustrations are copied from The Tea Clippers by George Campbell. I accept that sometimes people use an illustration from a book to make something clear but this gentleman seems to overdo it. His massive copying borders on copyright infringement if he didn't get permission to do that.

By the way, I didn't open the Facebook link. I'm too happy I got off it!

Lou

And accidentally found pictures, as a contribution to the earlier discussion about number of windows on broadside of Her

 

In C-plans, there are not side windows except four on front part bellow fore deck

 

In earlier pictures, there are here !!!!

 

In today statement, there are not

 

 

Nenad,

The Campbell plans are correct if you want to build her like she was in her working days. The long row of windows in addition to the front 4 ones were additions  to let light in when she became a museum ship.

Lou

She Who Must Be Obeyed !

 

That is a qualification that does ring a bell (wedding bell?). In a recent movie I heard a man say to his wife that she understood him so well. She answered "That's because I'm a trained child psychiatrist".

Anyway, any time we want to recuperate from married life, we can turn to our ship building hobby. And I suppose that's the reason why we call ships "she". They are our secret second love.

Lou

I find that threading the blocks on the masts to be a real pain, you know where,but again perseverance is the only answer.

 

 

Hi Bob,

Did you use a needle threader like this one?

By the way, she's looking good. No need to put her in the fire place. Or was it the other way around?

Lou

It's a strange world, Nenad. Some people die due to lack of water and now people die because there's too much of it. There's a lot we can control but apparently not the climate. I do hope that you and your family will remain safe.

Lou

Thanks for letting is in on this model building adventure, I liked it!

Lou

Pete,

One of our members used self-adhesive aluminium foil, look here. Could this be an idea?

Lou

Lou, what you meant was that she FLOATED higher right? LOL

In the tea period she floated higher (draught 17'6") so the upper sheathing belt ended lower. In the wool period she floated lower (draught 20') because of the heavier cargo, so the sheathing ended higher. Or the other way around. At the moment she doesn't float at all.

Lou

For people taking the Accurate Approach:  (like me, the nutty professor)

From the Original specification:

No.58 Yellow Metal Sheathing. Vessel to be sheathed from Keel to 18 ft water mark on top of paper and tar sheathing to be to be smoothly put on, sheets to be 22, 24, 26 oz. metal.

 

This applies to her period as a tea clipper. From this figure and the scale you are using you could calculate how high the the sheathing should go. During her wool period under Captain Woodget the load waterline was 20 ft. (higher than in the tea period, not lower as I wrote before) and the sheathing should end a bit above that.

Finally, for smart appearance the upper belt was raised a bit at both ends of the ship.

Lou