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allanyed got a reaction from Blue Ensign in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Always a joy to check in on your build log. Don't know if you have seen them , but there have been a couple recent posts here at MSW on diminishing the thickness of the wales as it approaches the rabbet. Most modelers are unaware of this feature, but it is something to consider. Your choice of course, but maybe something to think about.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from Keith Black in Hello from the UK
Welcome Eindride
Your project and the reason for it are extremely interesting! Best of luck with it. Hope you start a build log and post some photos of your replicas.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Blue Ensign - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64 scale
Always a joy to check in on your build log. Don't know if you have seen them , but there have been a couple recent posts here at MSW on diminishing the thickness of the wales as it approaches the rabbet. Most modelers are unaware of this feature, but it is something to consider. Your choice of course, but maybe something to think about.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Hello from the UK
Welcome Eindride
Your project and the reason for it are extremely interesting! Best of luck with it. Hope you start a build log and post some photos of your replicas.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from AJohnson in Hello from the UK
Welcome Eindride
Your project and the reason for it are extremely interesting! Best of luck with it. Hope you start a build log and post some photos of your replicas.
Allan
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allanyed reacted to Eindride in Hello from the UK
Hi everyone. I have just got a Billings Oseberg ship and am looking forward to getting started on it. I have made replicas of quite a few of the artifacts from the ship burial so thought I should build the ship.
Eindride (Paul)
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allanyed reacted to ccoyle in Hello All - From Santa Barbara, CA
Welcome aboard! Look here to kick-start your Thermopylae research
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allanyed got a reaction from davyboy in HMS Indefatigable by ECK - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1:64
Very nice kit and your planking is looking very well done. Are you going to taper the wales so they appear to sit in the rabbet like the surrounding planking? If you look at contemporary models you will see that the wales do not stand proud at the rabbet otherwise they cannot be seated in that groove. Is this addressed in your instructions?
The taper on contemporary models appears to start at about the position where the cant frames are located.
Allan
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allanyed reacted to wefalck in Wrinkles in silkspan
So the problem is solved?
Otherwise, wetting it several times, particularly in the areas with the creases and going over it with iron should solve it. Place the material so that the crease faces upward with the convex side.
Otherwise, just choose areas without crease ...
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Sphinx Question: What is this for?
Which one are you going to rig? She is possibly best known for being part of the squadron in the battle of Sullivan's Island. As a single squadron, I suspect she carried a red ensign at least at that point in her history. You probably already found this in your research, but if not the only pic I could find is the watercolor attributed to James Peale and it appears it was a the red ensign rather than the white or blue that the squadron carried. Note the Sphinx is third ship from the right.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Technical drawings & Dutch shell first
I hope you do not mind a disagreement on this as I think it is good to have a discussion like this. 😁. I have no idea what you mean by "normal" ship model drawings. Many of us use contemporary drawings, contracts when available and scantlings from the Establishments and elsewhere when appropriate. There are many small boat drawings showing the thwarts and tholes properly located including several below.
Cheers
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Technical drawings & Dutch shell first
Hi Jules
I just inserted the plate of the 24 foot sloop of 1690 into a CAD program, brought it to full size using the scale. The dimensions are what they are, not my interpretation.
Unlike the 24 foot sloop drawing, the Hohenzollern model looks realistic with evenly spaced thwarts and tholes.
This thread is very interesting, thank you for posting it.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from flying_dutchman2 in Technical drawings & Dutch shell first
I just now read this topic and it is indeed interesting, thank you very much for sharing.
I do question the knowledge of his father in at least one instance. In the below drawing ----the boat is wide enough to be double banked so it makes sense that there are openings in the gunnels for the oars to sit port and starboard. But, assuming the rowers were pulling oars as was normal they would be seated facing aft, how could they possibly row with the varying distances between oar placement and seating placement? Add to this that the aft most thwart has no openings in the gunnel at all. Maybe this was just an extra thwart for passengers. The distance varies from about 30" (a long reach for a rower) to 14", so no room to maneuver an oar at all without hitting the rower in front of him in the back. This is exaggerated in the aft most position as the openings are even with the thwart. It might just be me but this design makes no sense at all. Hope someone can explain things if I am missing something.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in If you ever change your username, PLEASE READ
Kevin,
Nothing wrong with your current name at all. Yours is more interesting than mine and many others to be sure.
Allan
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allanyed reacted to wefalck in Wrinkles in silkspan
Which silkspan are you referring to, the fabric or the paper?
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allanyed got a reaction from Baker in If you ever change your username, PLEASE READ
Kevin,
Nothing wrong with your current name at all. Yours is more interesting than mine and many others to be sure.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from druxey in If you ever change your username, PLEASE READ
Kevin,
Nothing wrong with your current name at all. Yours is more interesting than mine and many others to be sure.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from DaveBaxt in HMS Diana 1794 by DaveBaxt - Caldercraft - 1:64
Hi Dave,
I really do not remember where I read about this in the past but I do remember discussing this years ago at Preble Hall with Grant Walker as well as seeing this in their collection of contemporary models. They all seem to be tapered in thickness for the last 5 to 10 feet or so.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from DaveBaxt in HMS Diana 1794 by DaveBaxt - Caldercraft - 1:64
Hi David
It is hard to tell, but did you taper the wales at the bow? They taper in thickness to match that of the other planking so they fit in the rabbet properly without having to make a notch as some folks do. Couple photos from Preble Hall follow. Hard to see but if you look closely you can see how the ends match the surrounding planks to fit into the rabbet.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from KentM in HMS SUSSEX by KarenM - FINISHED - 1:48
This is one of the finiest builds here at MSW, thank you very much for sharing with us. I have a question regarding the lights on the stern and the quarter galleries, there seem to be an inordinate amount of panes, 30 on each stern light, 25 on the quarter gallery lights. Was this actually done in this time period and if so, was it common? I cannot find any contemporary models or plans for the late 17th century showing more than three panes across or up and down. Photo of the contemporary model of Boyne (80) 1692 is below
Thanks
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in HMS SUSSEX by KarenM - FINISHED - 1:48
Thank you for the explanation, it is very much appreciated.
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Sources for wood blocks?
Are they internally stropped? I don't see any on their website. Those that I see on the website are not at all appropriate for a late 19th century fishing schooner that you mentioned was the subject vessel.
Thanks,
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Sphinx Question: What is this for?
There are examples on the RMG Collections site. Several contemporary model examples https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66300 and https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66359, https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66325, https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-66357
From Lee's Masting and Rigging of English Ships of War, page 184, the length of the ensign staff was 1/3 the length of the main mast above the taffrail and the diameter was 1/2 inch per 3 feet of length. The ensign staff tabernacle looks to be a bit thin in your photos in post #1 above. Looking at photos of contemporary models the tabernacles look to be closer to 10 or 12 inches deep. Not a big thing, just curious if anyone knows if there was some kind of standard for this.
Are you going to rig the staff and hang an ensign?
Allan
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allanyed got a reaction from mtaylor in Navy guy excited to be here 🏴☠️
A huge thank you for your service and a warm welcome to MSW. Your comments on planking and attention to details is fantastic. Study the tutorial here in the articles section by David Antscherl (https://thenrg.org/resources/Documents/articles/APrimerOnPlanking.pdf) and watch the four part You Tube video by Chuck Passaro and choose which suits your needs. Both work well and yield beautifully and accurately done planking. As you likely have strips of wood for planking in the kit, Chuck's method is probably going to be more useful for you. Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWooJ1o3cM
Do start a build log and never be afraid to ask questions when they arise.
Allan