Rustyj

I have the distinct honor of being able to work with Chuck again on my  next project,
the HMS Winchelsea.  This is the same ship that Chuck is designing and currently
building. I cannot put into words my gratitude to Chuck for allowing me to participate
in his project. I will make every effort to build her as described in the plans and
practicum although I will never be able to reach the outstanding level of craftsmanship
Chuck has set.
 
 The HMS Winchelsea was launched in 1764 and is a Niger class 32 gun frigate. This
build will show how she appeared during the American Revolution. The model will be
fully rigged at 3/16" scale. I will be using various woods throughout the build but the
primary wood used will be Boxwood, Holly and Swiss Pear. All of these woods are
from Jeff at Hobby Mill.
 
As Chuck has very eloquently detailed his log and I could never reproduce that either.
I will just show how I worked my way through the build.
 
Here is a sample of some the plans that I will be using to build the Winchelsea.
 

 
The first step in the build will be to cut out and assemble the knee of the head. There are
eleven parts to the head knee assembly and they will all be cut from 3/16" Boxwood. The
pieces were rough cut with the scroll saw and finished with files, sandpaper and chisels.
To simulate the caulked joints.
 
Once assembled Chuck states " The entire assembly must be tapered. This taper extends
from the upper stem piece towards the bobstay piece.  The aft edge of the upper stem
should remain 3/16” thick.  It should gradually be reduced to 3/32” thick along the
forward edge of the bobstay piece. The taper is 3/32” at the top of the bobstay piece
but it also gradually widens back to 3/16” as it works its way down towards the cutwater. "
 
Hopefully you can see this taper in the photograph.
 

 
Next it will be time to cut out the bulkheads and the bulkhead former. These will all cut
from Birch 3/16" aircraft 4 ply plywood. As there are so many bulkheads, a total of 27,
I anticipate it taking a least a week to cut them out and fit them prior to gluing.
 
That is if my mind doesn't wander!  

I have the distinct honor of being able to work with Chuck again on my  next project,
the HMS Winchelsea.  This is the same ship that Chuck is designing and currently
building. I cannot put into words my gratitude to Chuck for allowing me to participate
in his project. I will make every effort to build her as described in the plans and
practicum although I will never be able to reach the outstanding level of craftsmanship
Chuck has set.
 
 The HMS Winchelsea was launched in 1764 and is a Niger class 32 gun frigate. This
build will show how she appeared during the American Revolution. The model will be
fully rigged at 3/16" scale. I will be using various woods throughout the build but the
primary wood used will be Boxwood, Holly and Swiss Pear. All of these woods are
from Jeff at Hobby Mill.
 
As Chuck has very eloquently detailed his log and I could never reproduce that either.
I will just show how I worked my way through the build.
 
Here is a sample of some the plans that I will be using to build the Winchelsea.
 

 
The first step in the build will be to cut out and assemble the knee of the head. There are
eleven parts to the head knee assembly and they will all be cut from 3/16" Boxwood. The
pieces were rough cut with the scroll saw and finished with files, sandpaper and chisels.
To simulate the caulked joints.
 
Once assembled Chuck states " The entire assembly must be tapered. This taper extends
from the upper stem piece towards the bobstay piece.  The aft edge of the upper stem
should remain 3/16” thick.  It should gradually be reduced to 3/32” thick along the
forward edge of the bobstay piece. The taper is 3/32” at the top of the bobstay piece
but it also gradually widens back to 3/16” as it works its way down towards the cutwater. "
 
Hopefully you can see this taper in the photograph.
 

 
Next it will be time to cut out the bulkheads and the bulkhead former. These will all cut
from Birch 3/16" aircraft 4 ply plywood. As there are so many bulkheads, a total of 27,
I anticipate it taking a least a week to cut them out and fit them prior to gluing.
 
That is if my mind doesn't wander!  

Insider information? I don't know what your mean Rusty?

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Cutting the copper tape to make plates and coppering the hull.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

Thank you E&T.
 
Ok Ben.... you should have excused yourself.  You had insider information!
 
Yes Chuck has graciously allowed me access to the Winnie and I will be starting her shortly.
As this will be a long slow build while he continues to design her I will try to complete the Fly
at the same time. Gotta keep the Grand kids happy you know!  
 
I have completed the stand. I made it out of some Maple I had available.
 
 

 

 

 
I kept the dowels low on the stand so they wouldn't cover the frame work. Now I just have to put
on a couple of coats of sealer and I can set the cross section in it.

I'm guessing Chucks Winchelsea??
 
Ben

Thanks Augie and Ben!
 
Hi Mark,
 
Yes toys I mean tools are great! I can see where a duplicator would be a god send!
Edit...Though it's not a Sherline the Unimat link was very informative.
Re-edit: Sherline version is great too.
Re-re-edit: Vanda-lay link will save me a bunch of searching.
Re-re-re edit: Do-over's. It seems everyday has to many do-overs!
Thanks Joe.
druxey, the design and execution is a bit over my head at this point but maybe in the future.
 
Ok here is the result of the duplication. An acceptable job. Not perfect but they won't be
right next to each other so all should be good.
 

 
 

Thank you all for stopping by and the likes.
 
Thanks Dubz.
 
Mark I wouldn't want to be standing next to when it was fired let alone be down range
when she let loose!
 
Thanks Bob I am really happy with how she looks.
 
Hi Grant. Sorry to disappoint but I played with one 1/2" dowel while waiting for the rod to arrive.
 
Now I will make a confession. Machine equipment is no stranger to me. When I was a
young'in I had training in machining engines. I could bore an engine block, hone a cylinder
or machine a head to a couple of thousandths. I just never played with a lathe. Also it's
been 37 plus years since I used any of that equipment  so I wasn't sure if any feel was left.
 
Now all you lathe users I have a bit of a bone to pick with you! No one ever mentioned how
messy these things are. Now I'm no neat freak by any means but man it makes a mess.
 

 
Here is a the cannon barrel turned to the correct taper .
 

 
And here it is completed except I have now realized that I don't have a cut off tool!
 

 
 Oh goody something new to get! I can see where this can be very addictive.      

Wonderful work, very clean and precise. 

Thank you all for stopping by and the likes.
 
Thanks Dubz.
 
Mark I wouldn't want to be standing next to when it was fired let alone be down range
when she let loose!
 
Thanks Bob I am really happy with how she looks.
 
Hi Grant. Sorry to disappoint but I played with one 1/2" dowel while waiting for the rod to arrive.
 
Now I will make a confession. Machine equipment is no stranger to me. When I was a
young'in I had training in machining engines. I could bore an engine block, hone a cylinder
or machine a head to a couple of thousandths. I just never played with a lathe. Also it's
been 37 plus years since I used any of that equipment  so I wasn't sure if any feel was left.
 
Now all you lathe users I have a bit of a bone to pick with you! No one ever mentioned how
messy these things are. Now I'm no neat freak by any means but man it makes a mess.
 

 
Here is a the cannon barrel turned to the correct taper .
 

 
And here it is completed except I have now realized that I don't have a cut off tool!
 

 
 Oh goody something new to get! I can see where this can be very addictive.      

Excellent Augie. Shaved rules or not that came out very nicely.  
 
I also agree that you shouldn't paint it, unless you want to of course.  

??????? I must be looking at the wrong pictures - looks really nice to me!

Well, we've been back on course now for several days.  The result is that at the 400 hour point (and 6 months on the calendar), we've completed the hull planking.  I'm not completely thrilled with it and a few planking 'rules' were shelved here and there.  But all in all I'm satisfied.
 

 

 

 

 
At this point it's been sanded but no finish applied.  Need to make a decision there so we'll move over to the testing bench.  In 1780, copper plates were not routinely used.  'White stuff' would have been SOP so I'll take a look at that.  Rusty used holly on his lower hull and it gave the light effect nicely.  But having gone with kit-supplied basswood I can look at using a natural stain finish.  Or I may decide to stain to match the upper hull (Admiral's preference).  A lot of touching up to do first on the britework (battle damage).
 
I'll figure this all out and the next time she's here we should be ready for a step back and relax moment.
 
Oh, in Ben's Confed log it took him 6 months to reach this point.  Chuck must have built this into the kit (just like he figures everything else out). 
 
 
 
 

Thanks Mark, Grant and Joe.
 
It would be my luck to get stuck in a groundhogs day that was really horrid and have to live it over and over and over again!
 
Now I have to get that accountant to figure out how to get all the cool accessories like a duplicator!
 
No new news from the shop. I have to still mount the barrels and rig them and make the base. That and a good cleaning
should just about finish her up.
 
I also had started doing the base work on what was going to be my next build. I was going back to the light for a bit and build the
FLY for my grandson. He saw it on the shelf and really liked it. So I have been doing a bit of work on that for him when I
was presented with a Dark Side opportunity I just couldn't pass up. 
 
So now that I have been cruel and thrown out that teaser I am preparing to post the new build log here in the scratch build
section by this weekend.
 
Sorry gotta head of to work now. 

Thanks Mark, Grant and Joe.
 
It would be my luck to get stuck in a groundhogs day that was really horrid and have to live it over and over and over again!
 
Now I have to get that accountant to figure out how to get all the cool accessories like a duplicator!
 
No new news from the shop. I have to still mount the barrels and rig them and make the base. That and a good cleaning
should just about finish her up.
 
I also had started doing the base work on what was going to be my next build. I was going back to the light for a bit and build the
FLY for my grandson. He saw it on the shelf and really liked it. So I have been doing a bit of work on that for him when I
was presented with a Dark Side opportunity I just couldn't pass up. 
 
So now that I have been cruel and thrown out that teaser I am preparing to post the new build log here in the scratch build
section by this weekend.
 
Sorry gotta head of to work now. 

Thanks Mark, Grant and Joe.
 
It would be my luck to get stuck in a groundhogs day that was really horrid and have to live it over and over and over again!
 
Now I have to get that accountant to figure out how to get all the cool accessories like a duplicator!
 
No new news from the shop. I have to still mount the barrels and rig them and make the base. That and a good cleaning
should just about finish her up.
 
I also had started doing the base work on what was going to be my next build. I was going back to the light for a bit and build the
FLY for my grandson. He saw it on the shelf and really liked it. So I have been doing a bit of work on that for him when I
was presented with a Dark Side opportunity I just couldn't pass up. 
 
So now that I have been cruel and thrown out that teaser I am preparing to post the new build log here in the scratch build
section by this weekend.
 
Sorry gotta head of to work now. 

Thanks Mark, Grant and Joe.
 
It would be my luck to get stuck in a groundhogs day that was really horrid and have to live it over and over and over again!
 
Now I have to get that accountant to figure out how to get all the cool accessories like a duplicator!
 
No new news from the shop. I have to still mount the barrels and rig them and make the base. That and a good cleaning
should just about finish her up.
 
I also had started doing the base work on what was going to be my next build. I was going back to the light for a bit and build the
FLY for my grandson. He saw it on the shelf and really liked it. So I have been doing a bit of work on that for him when I
was presented with a Dark Side opportunity I just couldn't pass up. 
 
So now that I have been cruel and thrown out that teaser I am preparing to post the new build log here in the scratch build
section by this weekend.
 
Sorry gotta head of to work now. 

Thank you all for stopping by and the likes.
 
Thanks Dubz.
 
Mark I wouldn't want to be standing next to when it was fired let alone be down range
when she let loose!
 
Thanks Bob I am really happy with how she looks.
 
Hi Grant. Sorry to disappoint but I played with one 1/2" dowel while waiting for the rod to arrive.
 
Now I will make a confession. Machine equipment is no stranger to me. When I was a
young'in I had training in machining engines. I could bore an engine block, hone a cylinder
or machine a head to a couple of thousandths. I just never played with a lathe. Also it's
been 37 plus years since I used any of that equipment  so I wasn't sure if any feel was left.
 
Now all you lathe users I have a bit of a bone to pick with you! No one ever mentioned how
messy these things are. Now I'm no neat freak by any means but man it makes a mess.
 

 
Here is a the cannon barrel turned to the correct taper .
 

 
And here it is completed except I have now realized that I don't have a cut off tool!
 

 
 Oh goody something new to get! I can see where this can be very addictive.      

Thanks Mark, Grant and Joe.
 
It would be my luck to get stuck in a groundhogs day that was really horrid and have to live it over and over and over again!
 
Now I have to get that accountant to figure out how to get all the cool accessories like a duplicator!
 
No new news from the shop. I have to still mount the barrels and rig them and make the base. That and a good cleaning
should just about finish her up.
 
I also had started doing the base work on what was going to be my next build. I was going back to the light for a bit and build the
FLY for my grandson. He saw it on the shelf and really liked it. So I have been doing a bit of work on that for him when I
was presented with a Dark Side opportunity I just couldn't pass up. 
 
So now that I have been cruel and thrown out that teaser I am preparing to post the new build log here in the scratch build
section by this weekend.
 
Sorry gotta head of to work now.