Mike Y

Congratulations on completing an excellent build Mike. You can and should be very proud of your achievement.

But now the good part. Quoting Chuck's manual - "That completes the model!!!" I'm still in progress with the display case, but she is completed! Yahooo!
Chuck, thanks again for that fun build, that looks simple, but actually forces to learn new techniques and go to the next level of accuracy.
 

 

 

 

 
Next buid would be a Longboat, since my wife really thinks it looks better with sails, and I want to make a better planking with boxwood
Ok, in reality I just want to make a pinnace again, this time avoiding all mistakes I did, but making the same model again is kind of silly, and I really love the look of longboat. Also, longboat build would be much slower - I will not rush things to complete it quicker.
 
Thanks everybody who watched, helped and commented - it is quite fun, much better then just modelling without being able to share!

Wonderful build.  I will be referring to this when I spin up my Pinnace.

But now the good part. Quoting Chuck's manual - "That completes the model!!!" I'm still in progress with the display case, but she is completed! Yahooo!
Chuck, thanks again for that fun build, that looks simple, but actually forces to learn new techniques and go to the next level of accuracy.
 

 

 

 

 
Next buid would be a Longboat, since my wife really thinks it looks better with sails, and I want to make a better planking with boxwood
Ok, in reality I just want to make a pinnace again, this time avoiding all mistakes I did, but making the same model again is kind of silly, and I really love the look of longboat. Also, longboat build would be much slower - I will not rush things to complete it quicker.
 
Thanks everybody who watched, helped and commented - it is quite fun, much better then just modelling without being able to share!

Time for a warm lamp light!
Very easy to mark treenai holes with a small spotlight. Planks are thin and frames are neatly highlighted

Got my new kit today and have started rebuilding the hull.  Not going to use CA this time, just wood glue.
 
One question tho, for those more knowledgable about gluing.
 
Normal gluing procedure (furniture, etc) requires that both surfaces be coated with glue.  Do you find that necessary with basswood? or does applying glue to one surface work considering the porosity of the wood?

Thanks for that Adam and B.E.   Well, I hope I don't disappoint anyone and more importantly, myself..  
 
Twelve frames cut, fitted to build board (but not glued).  Reference points marked and will be re-checked after they are glued in.  One of the references is totally off as I cut it at the gunport mark and not the wale mark... argghhh.. 
 

 
 
Plan of attack on this is evolving... due to new items I've discovered.  I do want all the full frames cut and fitted before doing the rest of this.
 
1) Fit frames to keel.  Keel needs to be modified such that the area above the rabbet needs to be 5/32" instead of full width of 3/16".  I'm holding off on this as long as I can as I'm thinking I need to change the angle of the rabbet anyway.
 
2) Re-recheck reference marks and cut gunports into frames. 
 
3) Glue to build board.
 
4) Add spacers and keel.
 
5) Fair, sand, sand, sand.... and sand somemore both inside and out.
 
Then in some semblance of order, fit the sills, half-frames, hawse frames and punt.  I'm still picking apart details from La Venus such as frigates had herringbone pattern decking in the great cabin...  oy... And I'm sorting out how to remove the quarterdeck and forecastle deck clamp reference tabs for easier planking. 
 
 
 

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Remco, would you mind if I bother you with a next batch of questions regarding finish? it is one of the best I ever saw, so I am trying to learn on best examples!
What is the benefit of microcrystalline wax comparing to tung oil, why do you prefer it now? And all that comparing to wipe-on-poly?
Do you apply finish to a tiny pieces, like the beds, closets, etc?
What finish have you used for frames?
And the last one - what is your tactics for when to finish? Do you apply it before gluing, or after?
 
Thanks for all advices!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Young America - extreme clipper 1853
Part 62 – Lower deck framing continued
 
Thank you all for the comments and the likes on the last posts.  Work continues.
 
Once the deck beams are fitted, the deck framing is all about knees.  Below is a set of lodging knees that have been fitted between two beams.
 

 
Monofilament dummy bolts have been CA glued in and sliced off flush.  The knees now will be sanded to remove all trace of the CA and to round off the bottom edge.  Note in this picture the two dashed lines on the drawing running parallel to the side.  The upper line is the inside edge of the waterway.  This will cover the butting of the knees as well as the ends of the ledges.
 
In the next picture one of the generic-shaped lodging cut earlier knees is being fit.
 

 
For the lodging knees this is mainly a matter of beveling the edge to fit the frames and to adjust the fore and aft width.  The next picture shows the fit from above.
 

 
In the next picture the forward pair of lodging knees and the hanging knees under the next beam have been installed.
 

 
Fitting of the hanging knees involves quite a bit of trimming of the original cut-out shapes due to the change in hull curvature.  I suspect a bit more lofting work would have been helpful. 
 
I am following up the beam installation progressively with the carlings and ledges.  In the next picture a ledge is being marked for cutting – held by a surgical clamp.
 

 
The ledges are not rounded, so they need to be faired off to match the beams.  A small sanding block is being used in the next picture to fair off the top of all the framing.
 

 
The last picture shows the framing completed thus far.
 

 
The waterways will put a neat cap at the side on the intersection of all these deck members with the frames at the side.
 
Ed

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Drilled the holes for pinning the table at various pivoted angle from horizontal to 60° in 5° increments
 
I should mention that before drilling it is important to square the press bed to the drill bit to ensure straight holes are made
 
Sanded the edge to finished shape using a belt sander   And that is as far as I got this weekend I will try laying out the legs and frames this week to cut this coming weekend. With luck I might start some assembly.  

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Hooray! I finished all the messy part of gluing metal parts onto wood parts. Damn CA! Hate it!
 
Metal bumper looks much better then a paper one. Or I probably just cant work with the paper (some build logs of ships from card totally changed the view on paper)

 
Rudder tiller have a brass rod inside to make a stronger joint with a rudder:

 
And here is the rudder installed. Fully functional, you can rotate it gently

 
Trunk of the pinnace looked too empty. Then I started to think... What could be there? It is a flashy pinnace, not the one that is used to carry food supply. It is intended to transport officers. What they could carry with them?? Aha! Some high quality booze, to make sure it will not disappear while officers are on the shore.
So here is a tiny booze tank:

 
SKÅL!

Glad to see you solved that problem Mike.
 
I'm a long way from blackening but keeping track of the tips/tricks for when I get there.

Nope....no good.....your piece is not oriented properly with the grain.  That is why they break...rotate so the part of the stem that sticks up and always breaks is going along with the grain....rather than across it.  This is super important and you should always keep teh grain direction in mind when posiitioning your templates.

Mark - thanks a lot for that link.  After looking at them I see my errors (and they are definitely ALL mine).  Main thing was rushing - bad habit I've got.  What was really brain-dead (on my part) I had one of them bookmarked so I could use it when I got to that point and failed to go back and look at it.
 
Yeah, the bulkhead is in the right spot.  I'm not sure how I got it too small.  I'm positive it was not a kit error either.
 
I had forgotten about acetone loosening the CA, but after looking things over again today, I realized that when I supposedly faired the bulkheads, I totally blew it when I beveled them up in a curve following the bearding line instead of toward the stern as required.
 
So that being the case, I ordered the new kit today and will just remake the hull.  As a plus, that'll give me a lot of spare parts for future boo-boo's.
 
Got to learn to put some kind of "governor" on my hurry up attitude.  Well, lesson learned (I hope).
 
Thanks for your help.  

Works now! No acetone, just a mechanical force of a metal circle brush

Works now! No acetone, just a mechanical force of a metal circle brush