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Mike Y got a reaction from KORTES in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Small status update - frame installation is slowly progressing. Also marked the cutoff points and gun ports.
Decided to skip the sweep ports on this model - they really do not look good with Hahn frame spacing - sweep port is narrower than the distance between frames.
But I will definitely do them on a next model, that have a correct framing (as in TFFM), not a simplified one.
P.S.: careful viewer can mention a magnetic bar in the background, holding some hand tools. Really handy thing! Very happy with it.
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Mike Y got a reaction from Saburo in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Finally finished most of the renovation works in the apartment, and here is my modelling corner!
All the tools are in a large drawer, only most popular ones are stored in the table itself.
The band saw is hidden under the table, it would be rarely used.
The drawing is a Cromwell plan from NMM, but it is purely for decoration - Hahn plans are much more detailed.
Since my wife occupied another corner for her knitting stuff, it is a time to rename the "living room" into a "hobby room". But hey, isn't hobby a big part of our life?
(Yep, I know that furniture is quite not in same style, will slowly fix that over time)
So now I can finally start cutting the frame blanks! Finally! Time to make a first bucket of sawdust
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Mike Y got a reaction from Saburo in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Modelling is temporarily on pause - was busy buying and moving into a new apartment. Now busy renovating it
Used modelling tools to make a balcony, does it count?
Next on a list - make a modelling table, so I can start my build!
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Mike Y got a reaction from Saburo in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Speaking of a fully framed models - a friend of mine visited an interesting project today - 1:1 reconstruction of Poltava, 1712 ship, partially designed by Russian tsar, Peter I, who studied shipbuilding in Holland. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_ship_of_the_line_Poltava_(1712)
The site is located in St.Petersburg, Russia.
Pretty interesting to see, looks very close to that build logs, and nearly-round shape of the hull make it look like Triton
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Mike Y got a reaction from catopower in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
And here is what you get inside the timbering set from The Lumberyard.
Various planking and frame wood. Notice that wood color is pretty varying, so needs to be sorted.
Framing, keel, deck beams/knees would be in swiss pear, planking - boxwood, fittings - mixed. I also got beech, walnut and cherry for some parts, but not sure if I'll use them. Will see!
Laser cut parts. Planning to make my own deck beams with a cute scarfs, instead of using these. But they are a good backup, if my scarfs will turn into failure:
And plans, lots of them!
Don't mind the small size of the photos, it's 11.5 kg of wood!
Let's unpack the blueprints and make some sawdust!
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Mike Y got a reaction from catopower in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Why scratch?
I always had a high requirements for a wood quality and fitting quality. Unfortunately, even expensive kits were never that close. After getting a first pack of boxwood, I would never go back to any inferior wood. Hence, only scratch. Not that scary though, I do most of the parts from scratch anyway.
It's a pity that kit producers do not offer a wood upgrade. For a serious build, cost is spreading over a number of years, so is it really so important?
Speed of the build is not important, I enjoy the process. As Remco says - "Treat each part as if it is a model on its own, you will finish more models in a day than others do in a lifetime".
Why Hahn?
For a weird reason, don't like the realistic framing style, like David Antscherl suggests. First - you don't see anything between frames, and second - uneven spacing and shape of frames make me feel dizzy when I look on them. Physically. I know it sounds weird, but I just can't. So - frames would be spaced evenly, even if it's unrealistic. So what, I'm not adding a rocket engines to my model
Also, Hahn's method for a frame construction looks easier. Yes, the wood usage is higher, but again - why that matters? I will build it for 5 years at least, so paying a bit extra for additional wood is not a problem. And I truly like the design of Hahn's jig!
Why Beavers Prize / Oliver Cromwell?
This ship has no honorable history. It was built in 1777 in Philadelphia, started a pretty good career - capturing 7 ships in 3 months after a start - but then was defeated by british HMS Beaver. Was downgraded from 24 cannons to 12, and served remaining time guarding british coast. Died in a hurricane after a number of years, slowly degrading and having a continuous problems with discipline onboard.
But there is something in the lines of that ship that touches me. Look on the model - hull proportions are pretty nice. It's not too high, and not too low, and I was looking for that photos a lot, admiring its beauty:
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Mike Y reacted to gjdale in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Congratulations on reaching a significant milestone Mike. You must be feeling very satisfied about now.
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Mike Y reacted to Remcohe in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Congratulations Mike.
Remco
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Mike Y reacted to mtaylor in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
I wouldn't call that a symbolic milestone at all, Mike. It's a real one and a big one.. Congratulations.
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Mike Y got a reaction from Wishmaster in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y got a reaction from Cap'n Rat Fink in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y got a reaction from Canute in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Yep, I am eagerly waiting for it. Already have a stash of various sanding pads, papers, scrapers, discs, blocks, etc. Will see what is better!
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Mike Y got a reaction from dvm27 in plans with Swan series?
Just another example that would be nice to have table of contents and few pages as a preview. I was buying TFFM completely blindly, the book description is extremely vague. I only knew that "since everybody has such a good feedback - the book is good, whatever is there".
But it should definitely increase sales if there would be a better description and some teasers available!
Same for plans. I trust that Greg and David made the best, top notch plans. I can assume they will allow me to build a whole model. But it is just assumption based on reputation.
But I wonder how many potential buyers turned away, because they are unsure what they will get when buying plans?
Ok, probably not that many - if you seriously consider building fully framed model and need plans - you can mail Greg and ask for details
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Mike Y got a reaction from ggrieco in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y got a reaction from mtaylor in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Yep, I am eagerly waiting for it. Already have a stash of various sanding pads, papers, scrapers, discs, blocks, etc. Will see what is better!
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Mike Y got a reaction from Captain Poison in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y got a reaction from Canute in plans with Swan series?
Just another example that would be nice to have table of contents and few pages as a preview. I was buying TFFM completely blindly, the book description is extremely vague. I only knew that "since everybody has such a good feedback - the book is good, whatever is there".
But it should definitely increase sales if there would be a better description and some teasers available!
Same for plans. I trust that Greg and David made the best, top notch plans. I can assume they will allow me to build a whole model. But it is just assumption based on reputation.
But I wonder how many potential buyers turned away, because they are unsure what they will get when buying plans?
Ok, probably not that many - if you seriously consider building fully framed model and need plans - you can mail Greg and ask for details
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Mike Y got a reaction from Saburo in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
End result:
Now the fun part - cutting the rabbet. I do not have any power tools to do it, so will make some hand jig and will slooooowly cut it with chisel and knife. Now when the keel is assembled, it would be a pity to ruin it by making a bad rabbet.
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Mike Y got a reaction from avsjerome2003 in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y reacted to wyz in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Yes Mike, it is a milestone to get the framing done. It's looking good.
Tom
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Mike Y got a reaction from tlevine in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y got a reaction from hamilton in plans with Swan series?
Just another example that would be nice to have table of contents and few pages as a preview. I was buying TFFM completely blindly, the book description is extremely vague. I only knew that "since everybody has such a good feedback - the book is good, whatever is there".
But it should definitely increase sales if there would be a better description and some teasers available!
Same for plans. I trust that Greg and David made the best, top notch plans. I can assume they will allow me to build a whole model. But it is just assumption based on reputation.
But I wonder how many potential buyers turned away, because they are unsure what they will get when buying plans?
Ok, probably not that many - if you seriously consider building fully framed model and need plans - you can mail Greg and ask for details
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Mike Y got a reaction from giampieroricci in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Symbolic milestone - all frames installed!
Now need to install that tricky transom frames and wings, something that will represent hawse timbers, and cut the gunports.
And then - start the magical process of fairing!
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Mike Y reacted to Siggi52 in HMS Dragon 1760 by Siggi52 - FINISHED - Scale 1:48 - English 74-Gun ship
Hello,
the captain proudly presents: the brand new wheels
Here an impression from turning the spokes. This time all went well, no trash.
But this day was't my day. I had more repairs than things I actually build new.
Regards,
Siggi
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Mike Y reacted to dvm27 in Beavers Prize 1777 by Mike Y - 1:48 - POF - Hahn style
Looks great, Mike. Personally, I find the fairing process the most satisfying part of the build as the smooth hull emerges amidst the sawdust. I start with 80 grit rubber cemented onto a variety of shaped sanding sticks.