puckotred

I think it`s another case of the parts not matching the pictures. I think I will probably cut down the lids to match the openings - I have never seen lids that are larger than the openings. They also do not provide hinges,so I will use some leftover hinges that I have. It looks like they have the lids just glued to the hull in a wide open position. By the way,I found those short columns for the small poop deck - they were mixed in with the belaying pins. I am not installing the gunport lids until after the deck work is done.
 
Mark

.... there's no such thing as 'stupid questions' ...... Good luck!
 
Graham

I hope I don't hijack this thread now...
 
Chuck: One problem with living in Europe is the shipping, vexrobotics has a shipping fee of €92.90 (!!!) for 12 plastic gears. Add to that 25% salestax...
The Swedish government believes that they loose millions of tax money on us who order stuff on Ebay and such so there is extra fees on cheap stuff ordered outside EU now...
wefalck: Ok, two sets of same gear for a serving machine. Got it. Serving machine is the one I need first of all. Still have some model rope...
 
Graham: No metal lathe... I'll be on the lookout for some drawings for a ropewalk, found a couple of sources on Amazon for the gears, but postage is double of what the gears cost so I'll wait until I find more stuff to order... Only need some drawings to follow as I'm not technical enough to do them myself... 
I'll be back in the end of this month with more stupid questions when I get some gears.
 
Thanks all of you

Yeah, I might have gone a little over the top with the bricks. I'll have a look around for something more like your sheet... Your stove is great!
 
To me it looks as the columns in the pictures are completely different from those in the kit. The wider square will look better at the base anyway I think... One could maybe remove two sides of the square but I don't believe one would get the same look as in the pictures anyway...

I hope I don't hijack this thread now...
 
Chuck: One problem with living in Europe is the shipping, vexrobotics has a shipping fee of €92.90 (!!!) for 12 plastic gears. Add to that 25% salestax...
The Swedish government believes that they loose millions of tax money on us who order stuff on Ebay and such so there is extra fees on cheap stuff ordered outside EU now...
wefalck: Ok, two sets of same gear for a serving machine. Got it. Serving machine is the one I need first of all. Still have some model rope...
 
Graham: No metal lathe... I'll be on the lookout for some drawings for a ropewalk, found a couple of sources on Amazon for the gears, but postage is double of what the gears cost so I'll wait until I find more stuff to order... Only need some drawings to follow as I'm not technical enough to do them myself... 
I'll be back in the end of this month with more stupid questions when I get some gears.
 
Thanks all of you

It's the damn cogwheels!!! Don't know how to get them or even what to get....

Those bricks are pretty small. Maybe you could use some white wood filler for the mortar - you could glue the bricks on leaving a small gap between them & pack the filler in between the bricks. If  using a water based filler you could just smear it in & wipe over the top with a wet rag to remove the filler from the surface of the bricks before it drys. I just didn`t want to fiddle with glueing all those little bricks on when most of the stove can`t even be seen.   I am now looking at the ship`s bell tower - the picture in the instructions appear to me to show the columns upside down - what do you think?
 
Here is a pic of the stove in place-
 

 
Mark

Lego Technic ?
 
I wish my son would be old enough so i'd have an excuse to buy

It is easy to get them. Just check ebay. Brass or steel ones can be pricy, but if you don't mind plastics, you can get them quite cheaply. There are whole sets for experimentation on ebay. There are also specialised manufacturers and supply houses that would also serve private customers.
 
For serving machines: the number of teeth is technically not relevant, but you need to identical sets. The two sets can be composed of the same size wheels or of different size wheel, this does not matter. The two sets only ensure that the hooks at both ends rotate at the same speed. Rather than using cog-wheels, one could also use toothed belts or chains together with the appropriate wheels.

I also find that companies who make parts for robotics are a great source.  Not commercial robotics.  I am referring to the hobby stuff.  There are quite a few companies that make parts of all kinds for educational purposes and developing robotics for the hobby.
 
www.vexrobotics.com
 
and my favorite
 
servocity.com
 
for example...and not just for the gears, they have lots of cool stuff.

Hi,
 
Wefalck - I fully agree with you. As with many things in life I believe that often the journey is as important as the destination, and when the outcome is helped by making tools to complete the task, even better, it's all part of the enjoyment. Mill Hill Supplies are the company I was talking about - need to start saving ....
 
Mark - I had read your first reply just as you had intended it to be read. I could see where you were coming from, so please, there is absolutely no need to go stand in the corner.
 
Mr Pucko - that was exactly the biggest issue I had. I did find a 'free' site where you could set parameters and print off a paper copy to stick onto a piece of wood and then cut out, and another where to use the 'free' download  turned out to be not so free at all. I looked at meccano gears, and even considered drawing up the gears using the skills I learned (and subsequently forgot) for geometrically constructing involute spur gears as an 'A' level Technical Drawing student back in the early 1970's - but life is too short. I eventually resorted to machining the centres out of Lego gears and fitting an acrylic hub complete with a square hole suitable for 5/32nd brass tube. This, with a little fettling of the corners, was pushed into 6mm dia brass tube, selected as it fitted the Tamiya R/C car miniature ball races. CA glue secured the various bits together. There is definitely a market out there for suitable gears. It should also be possible to get the same sort of results with some form of pulley and belt drive. Do you have access to a small metal turning lathe? If you can get hold of Lego gears (found mine on the popular on-line auction site) I might be able to knock out some 'hubs' ...
 
Cheers,
 
Graham

It's the damn cogwheels!!! Don't know how to get them or even what to get....

That stove looks good! Maybe I'll try and get one of those sheets as well.
These are the ones I'll try using. 1:48 scale. I'm going to have some problems with the mortar I guess...

That stove looks good! Maybe I'll try and get one of those sheets as well.
These are the ones I'll try using. 1:48 scale. I'm going to have some problems with the mortar I guess...

Great looking stuff.  I feel compelled to also mention that my very simple ropewalk and serving machine are very very easy to make on your own.  I have no issue what-so-ever with anyone using my design or anything even close to it for non-commercial purposes.  If you are making one for yourself that is perfectly fine by me.  
 
These machines in concept are very very simple.  Most will be similar because the concept behind making rope or serving rope is so simple.  I am just happy to see more folks trying their hand at making their own rope....and even going through the trouble of adding the detail of rope serving to their models.
 
That is very well done.....I wish you many years of good use from them.

Hi - more progress.  The next thing done was the pinrails - simple enough.  Then I started on the ship`s stove. It was just 3 sides & a base glued together. The instructions say to file grooves in the surface to simulate the mortar & then paint the "bricks". Well,filing grooves in this plywood is impossible to do without the plywood falling apart,so I went to my local hobby shop & found some plastic sheets made to look like scale bricks. The scale of these is 1/48,which is very close to the scale of the model which is 1/46. After cutting them to fit the stove frame & glueing them on,I used the smallest brush I have to paint the mortar lines off white. Lastly,a brass bar was bent to fit around the stove & blackened & glued in place. The front of the stove will not be finished because where it sits under the forecastle deck only the back side can be seen. Not perfect,but I am satisfied with it.
 

 

 

 

 

 
Mark 

Yes they are indeed...

Sorry to disappoint you but I've parked the build until all of the parts has arrived. And even then I doubt I'll do more of the log, takes up too much time I can use on building...
But I'll maybe post a pic now and again...

Yes Mark, and Domanoff's machines are superb, almost works of art. Having worked through the process of designing and making my modest examples I fully appreciate the  time and effort that he has had to put into developing them. He has my total respect, as does Chuck and his Syren products. Foremost in my mind when putting together my own devices was the essential requirement that in no way could they be regarded as 'rip-offs' of other makers products. I'm right behind Chuck's fight against piracy. I know first hand what it's like to have this happen. A 'colleague' purchased a pair of the steam shaped hardwood salad tongs I used to sell at the school's Christmas market and promptly sent them to her brother on the other side of the world so he could copy them. A different scale compared to what is going on now, but still irritating!
Other sponsors products are also available 'over this side of the pond'. I have found a UK based supplier of Sherline milling machines. I have one of these on my bucket list for the fateful day when I have to retire and will lose access to the equipment and workshops that have been an essential part of my working life for over 40 years.
 
Graham.

Hi,
Great idea - but sorry, going into production is a bit of a non-starter. For a start both designs would need a lot of work before I would feel comfortable that they were good enough to be sold, especially the ropewalk where I am a complete novice at making my own rope. I wouldn't want to let anyone down with a product that is not up to scratch. Another point is that when making equipment for my own use you can get away with construction methods that are fine for a prototype but would need radically changing for larger scale production. The other major issue is that the equipment belongs to the school at which I teach. Putting one together out of scrap material destined for the bin is one thing, and using a project to develop understanding of design software can be loosely regarded as 'continuous personal development' - if you can't do it yourself how can you explain it to others?. Unfortunately using equipment belonging to the local Education Authority for profit would be frowned upon, to put it mildly! Shame really - it could help raise the sadly depleted 'future projects' fund. There are a couple of Adriatic fishing boat kits I'd love to get my hands on (I blame donrobinson and Jack.aubrey's excellent build posts for putting temptation in my way)
Jacek - those delivery costs are a problem. It's a pity that there don't seem to be any European stockists for those excellent USA produced products but I dare say that there are commercial reasons for this that are way out of my field of knowledge.
Mr Pucko - sorry to let you down. (currently enjoying your thread and responses to 'I'm not buying another model for at least 12 months'!)
If I can help with any further details that would enable you or others to put together your own versions I'm more than happy to help.
Cheers,
Graham.

But I must say that the metal parts that arrives every month is very good:)

I also have parked my build until all parts arrive. It pointless to build according to deagostinis instructions. Especially if you plan to replace materials.

I'm quite satisfied with the kit. I bought some lighter colored strips for the deck, but the rest of my kit has ok quality wood. All the plywood straight.
My first model was from Caldercraft and the wood was so bad it almost ended the hobby for me... And the kits I built from Turkmodel/NCB are far worse. My DeAgostini Vasa is from Artesania Latina and is maybe equal of Nuestra. I'm also building "Terror", Occres latest kit and the that wood is better but the instructions are worse...
But we'll se how I feel when I get to the galleries.... 

Hi Mark, a great build!!!
I'm also building this one, doing the first steps of the gunports atm.
Have you had any thoughts about what to do about the stove? Instructions say to paint the bricks? 
I bought some ceramic bricks that should be in scale and build up the stove with them. Stiff tissue paper as mortar. At least the side that will be visible...

I was thinking the same... Or maybe make them "on demand"? I'd buy one... wink wink