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Glenn-UK
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Still working on the 2nd planking. I provided my method for the fitting the strips around the gun ports. Now I'm working up from the stern I thought I would provide a description of the method I'm using, which is pretty similar. Mark cut position Check fit after cutting plank Dry fit around the bow using map pins Mark and cut plank at stern end Glue the plank and pin along the edge using map pins at regular points Here is some overview pictures of progress to date
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Amazing stroke of bad luck. I hope you manage to come up with a workable solution to this minor set back. I have full confidence in your abilities.
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Nice work Patrick, looking good. I'm looking forward to moving away from the repetitive work, even though I'm enjoying adding the second planking.
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It's nice to watch another Victory builder at work. I stated my build 2 months ago and expect it will 2 or 3 years at least to complete. I will follow you build and you seemed to have made a very good start, keep the pictures coming.
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I'm fast approaching 100 hours of build time since I started the build a couple of months ago! I've now 2nd planked down to the approx. waterline and have also started planking up from keel, as I really liked Patrick's 2nd plank effect so I thought why not give it a go as well. Fingers crossed mine will turn out as good looking as Patrick's. The plan is to continue to plank up from keel until the planks reach the waterline. I've been very happy with the fit of the 2nd planking except for one small minor plank section around the bow section which was sitting proud of the hull along the bottom edge, due to a poor bit of 1st planking. I didn't notice the problem until after the 2nd plank was glued in position. So I used a lot of pins to make sure the next plank was fitted correctly and I will need to do a little fix on the problem area before I get around to the copper plating stage. I'm also aware of another small potential problem with the fit of the 2nd planking where it terminates with the bottom edge of the lower stern counter. I will show the problem as the planking progresses but already thought about a couple methods for a simple fix. Will decide on best method once the 2nd planking is complete.
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Hello David Sorry to hear you'll be absent from the build for a short period, I trust the hospital treatment (at James Cook?) goes well for you and wishing you a speedy return to the job in hand.
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Hello Muggebigge Many thanks for viewing my log. So far I have not had to steam the planks to get the bends which is a big bonus. I used a plank bender tool for the 1st planking layer however.
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Hello Patrick Glad to here you are on the mend and you've made good progress. Been unable to source the micro glaze in the UK but have ordered a bottle from Micromart in the States so hopefully should be with me in a few days time.
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I thought I would share the method I have been using for the second planking, it may be a bit of a long winded process but it works well. Time taken to fit this plank was approx. 10 minutes, which included the time to take the photos. Stage 1 Dry fit the plank at bow end and use a map pin to hold in place, the pin is located just beneath the plank. Stage 2 Continue to pin the plank around the bend Stage 3 Final dry pin point is when the plank bend is complete Stage 4 Mark the cut line Stage 5 Remove the plank, by just releasing the pressure from the pins, but leaving the pins in place. Stage 6 I know many builders will use CA glue, but I prefer to use Super Phatic which is a hybrid between CA and wood glue for the 2nd planking. It has a good grab, and is easy to clean off the fingers. It normally takes 20 minutes to set. I apply the glue to the whole plank. Stage 7 Fit plank to hull and tap the pins back in. Stage 8 Add more pins along the length. Stage 9 Make sure the stern section is pinned. I hope you have found this method informative.
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I have been able to spend some time this weekend continuing with the 2nd planking, have finally cleared the gun ports, so hopefully I should be able to speed up a bit. Here are some pictures.
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There is a lots of things I've never heard off either before but as you progress with the build these names seem to become second nature. A great set of photos which shows you understand the complexity of the rigging, I'm very impressed.
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Jerry I admire the work you are doing. Are you treating the rigging thread with beeswax to aid the process? Also I have seen others treat the end of the thread with CA to stiffen and make the threading easier. I recall with my last ship I had to drill out all the dead eyes and blocks so I could thread the rigging through.
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Started 2nd planking tonight, put the key strips on both sides and will wait until the glue is fully dried before adding the next strips. I plan to plank down to the water line and then plank up from the keelson to waterline. I expecting this task to take approx. 4 weeks to complete. I will add some more pictures once the 2nd planking has progressed down toward waterline. Also had to effect some repairs to the Captains chair tonight as the leg has come out. Needed to glue a new nut into the leg, should be good to good in a couple of hours time.
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Hello Jerry It seems you are making good progress with the rigging and I look forward to the time when I finally get to the same stage, maybe in a year or 2. Keep posting regular updates.
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Hope to start the second planking either tonight or tomorrow, only one more strip to add to quarter gallery. First set of photos is the assembly method for each quarter gallery skin. The next two pictures show the entry port lining Sometimes accidents happen, one of the clamps fell during the fixing process and managed to knock the sanding sealing tin on the way down, although the lid was on, it came off on contact with the floor. Despite cleaning the carpet several times the stain is permanent. I should have been more careful and kept the work area less cluttered. I will have to buy a new carpet, but this will have to wait until I have completed the second planking.
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Thanks David, I'll have a look later and will order one later tonight.
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Thanks Patrick I'm not sure we can get this product in the UK, but I will check.
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Looks like you've done a good job with the first planking, well done.
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Hi Kevin Thanks for the visit, when I was about to fit the middle window strip I noticed the glazing that I glued the night before had gone AWOL. It took some time to find the clear plastic glaze which had not been glued very well and had fallen on the floor when I was checking the final dry fit. Jerry Once again many thanks for you kind comments. We try all sorts of tricks to help the building process, some work well and others not so well. It's good to see you're progressing with the rigging; it looks a tough challenge but I'm confident you will do a great job and I look forward to following you progress with great interest
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Completed adding the outer skins to port quarter gallery, this was quite a fiddly little build, not my best bit of work but will learn the lessons and try to make a better job of the starboard side. Sun reflecting of the glazed windows Started working on the side entry lining, I think I may have oversized the first one!
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Hi John Thanks for the comments, I don't think I'm going that fast, it's certainly not the plan, I'm lucky as I can usually spend a hour or two a day working on the build.
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Build area for the last 3 days, so no chance to work on the ship. I finally cleared the build area last night after new carpets had been fitted and have been able to resume work on the ship thankfully. First task was to complete the middle deck planking by the side entry ports. Followed this fitted the quarter gallery part 220 and the lower stern counter. Still need to complete some sanding of 1st planking to remove some excess filler. I was then able to fit the additional quarter gallery support strips (221 to 224) Some strips required some filing to get a good fit, good to see a well glued finger! Finally started to look at fitting of quarter gallery skins 365 to 370. To make sure I get the cut right decided to make a paper template, and this worked like a dream.
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Good Morning David Progress may be slow, but the end justifies the means. I have always found it best to take a short break when the going gets tough because I can return back to the job in hand in a much calmer frame of mind which normally enables me to move forward with the build. You have done such a good job I'm sure it will not be long before you have completed the rigging which will be a fantastic achievement. Well done Glenn
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Thanks Patrick, I must admit I did begin to wonder if I had made a mistake but you have confirmed what I had also rechecked, Many thanks; 3 or 4 butt shift patterns are most common and I agree build to what feels right to you.
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Hi Jerry I believe I have fitted the middle deck using the 4 butt shift pattern. The first plank is set at 0mm and each full length plank fitted measures 85mm long. Each subsequent plank is then offset by 34mm. Thus the 2nd plank starts at 34mm, the 3rd plank starts at 68mm, the 4th plank starts at 102mm (or 17mm) and the 5th plank starts at 136mm (or 51mm). This means the 6th plank restarts the sequence at 0mm (136mm + 34mm = 170mm = 2 x 85 mm), QED. This means there are 4 planks between each 0mm reference point. I have checked my planking and it does conform to the above description. I decided not to bother adding caulking effects to this planking layer as it is pretty much hidden from view, I just wanted to try the 4 butt shift pattern out on a large test area where the end result would not matter too much if I made a complete hash of it. I have tried many different methods to simulate caulking and if I do decide to go down that route then the method I have liked the best is the use of a HB pencil down 1 edge of each join.
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