Kevin

ok, but to make the point i will still not be good enough to fulfil the point made and about kit reviews and historical accuracy as mentioned by @Roger Pellett or maybe it comes with a free brain implant

It means it qualifies to be sold in the gift shop of a museum..😁
 
Regarding comments on historical accuracy,  if that were something most kit builders were concerned with, most kit manufacturers might as well close up shop.
 
For those who don’t care to lower their standards to build a kit, much less one with some historical inaccuracies, we shouldn’t discourage those who want to enjoy the hobby by building these kits.
 
Thanks for the review Kevin.
 
 

i am not a NRG member, im not good enough to be a member, however i was not aware i had to research the kits that i review, its a way of informing others that new kits are on the market, that might be of interest, perhaps we need another thread, kits reviewed by non NRG members - rant over, and i wont bother again

If MSW is going to review ship model kits, I wish that there was more comment about historical accuracy of the kits.  MSW is owned by the Nautical Research Guild that supposedly attempts to improve ship modeling through research.
 
Roger

i am not a NRG member, im not good enough to be a member, however i was not aware i had to research the kits that i review, its a way of informing others that new kits are on the market, that might be of interest, perhaps we need another thread, kits reviewed by non NRG members - rant over, and i wont bother again

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price
 
pro's
advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL
sails
entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)
 
cons
no instructions
 
optional light set is available
 
Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price
 
pro's
advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL
sails
entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)
 
cons
no instructions
 
optional light set is available
 
Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Taken from the AL website.
 
HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 
Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).
The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.
From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.
On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.
On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.
It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price
 
pro's
advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL
sails
entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)
 
cons
no instructions
 
optional light set is available
 
Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Taken from the AL website.
 
HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 
Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).
The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.
From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.
On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.
On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.
It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

The crew member with the hands covering his ears is pretty cool  
 
Nice review!👍

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Taken from the AL website.
 
HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 
Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).
The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.
From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.
On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.
On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.
It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price
 
pro's
advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL
sails
entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)
 
cons
no instructions
 
optional light set is available
 
Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker


comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening
 
not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality
 
NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway
looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion
 
there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all
 
 

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some
 
we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7
very little flash but look smaller than 1/64
 
anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)


whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed
 
 
 

Taken from the AL website.
 
HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 
Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).
The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.
From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.
On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.
On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.
It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

Just  done  a  side  on view  in Paint  to  show  the  gradient  of the  scenery  or  how  it should  be,  just  shows a  rough  guide  to  the  slope  of the  grounds  from the  wall  road  towards  the   NW,  its  shows  how  I  could  display  like  a  cut through  view  of the  ground  on the  edge  of my  base.
 
OC.

Well, the file's been done now for that figure, so can no longer change it. I will ask for a seated officer next.
 
What a morning, from 9am until just now I have been cleaning the laser machine after re stocking Indy and other laser cut parts. Not an enviable job..

Post One Hundred and Seventy-three
 
18’ cutter – Jolly Boat
 
I thought I would have another stab at clinker planking one of these bijou cutters to go with 'Indy'.
 
My original cutter which sits with Alert was of the older version replaced shortly after I had completed it.
This one is the current and revised version, which includes laser cut gratings and footwalings whereas the original had brass etch versions.
 
I will be using 3.4mm x 0.6mm Boxwood strip, and of necessity the planking starts at the keel and works up to the Wash strake.

4315
The Garboard is applied first using pva. This is shaped at the bow but is otherwise untapered.

4320
The second strake overlaps the Garboard by 1mm.
In proper practice there is a rebate or rabbet edge along the top of each plank to take the bottom edge of the plank above.
At scale and with 0.6mm board I can dispense with this nicety.
 
From the second plank above the Garboard I am adding a degree of taper both fore and aft. How much is down to eye and best guesstimate.
4528
As with all these projects clamping is an issue, more so as the planking rises.

4531
With three strakes added I move to the wash strake. This is fitted untapered into the bow slot.
 
Twice the stem part broke but repair was effected and once the wash strakes are in place the area is more stable.

4542
As the strakes are applied the taper increases fore and aft until the final strake fits flush with the lower edge of the wash strake.

4552

4550
Planking completed in its raw state, but the lapstrakes are clearly evident.

4565
I applied a 1mm square Ebony strip along the lower edge of the wash strake to represent the wale.
It looks broader than it is because top and face edges are not clearly defined on the photo.

4568

4569
There is a satisfaction to be had from completing the hull of this smallest of the boat range, but there is a fair bit of cleaning up required before the inboard fittings are put into place.
 
B.E.
 
06/05/2024