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I've been using Weldbond for a lot of applications, but as a woodworker I know PVA glues are the best for wood to wood joints.  Weldbond has an initial fast tack, which I like.  I've heard a number of negatives about it, though.  TiteBond makes a glue called No-Run No-Drip, which used to be called" Molding and Trim"  glue.  It is a PVA that has an initial fast tack.  Anyone with experience or comments on this glue for model ship building?

 

Dave

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HI Dave,

I did not like it at all. I apply glue from a syringe device and I could not fill the reservoir easily with the stuff. To get the no run no drip viscometrics of No-run No drip you would have to have some kind of additive. Don't get me wrong, Titebond has an excellent product line. I would just use one of their conventional flow PVAs if it were me. Surprised about your comments about Weldbond. Isn't it a PVA too?

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Jaxboat B)

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Weldbond - The manufacturer - Frank T. Ross & Sons - is bit coy in how they write the product literature but they do state that it is P.V.Ac - which is polyvinyl acetate - PVA

It should be essentially the same as other PVA wood glues.

 

The way my brain stores and recalls info -  Weldbond also brings up Weldwood - the contact cement - which is not so good for our uses.

I built and use the thickness sander in NRG Ship Modeler's Shop Notes Vol. 1.  The platen is made from turned Rock Maple sized to fit a sheet of sand paper.  It has been difficult to find way to attach - reversibly - the sanding medium.  The way I do it now - use cloth backed medium - attach with Weldwood.  I have found that paint thinner solution Naphtha  works to unstick the medium. It does not dissolve it.  It makes it unsticky and produces removable curd-like lumps. 

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Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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Jaager,

 

Check some the DIY stores for sticky back sandpaper.  Maybe that might be an option.

Mark
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Mark,

 

Thanks, 

I will look to see what is available.

There were several less than successful experiments trying to find something that worked and could be removed without too much (unacceptable) effort. 

The shear forces on the paper can be high.  Regular paper backed medium does not last all that long.

WoodCraft has a cloth backed medium from Germany that lasts.  It comes as a roll and is 4 inches wide. Now I have 3 different grits on the 11 inch long platen. It even stands up to being cleaned using a gummy rubber cleaning stick.

NRG member 50 years

 

Current:  

NMS

HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error

HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly

Other

Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  - POF timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - POF framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Bought some and tried it out.  Worked pretty well for me.  Good for getting small items to stay in place when they can't be clamped.

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I bought a bottle of this Titebond glue based on the "Fast Inicial Tack" premise. I have used it some, but I can't really tell if there is a difference compared to others glues. I am also under the impression that is not as strong as the regular Titebond wood glue or the new (for me) Elmer's wood "stronger" formula, which I am presently using with very satisfactory results.

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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