Waterlines and Wales

[Cabbie]

Good Morning everyone

 

On my Endeavour the waterline and wales positions are not drawn.

 

Should the plans show these? Or is it up to the ship builder to position the wales in

a line that looks good?

 

I would have thought that the waterline is something that would have been

decided when the ship was being designed.

 

I see that the wales can be worked out by evenly spacing down from the gunwales

and working out the heights bow and stern. But on the pics of the Endeavour the bottom

of the wales seems to be at the waterline, which I don't have.

 

All help much appreciated Thanks Chris

 

Edit I should have said it is an Artesania Latina kit

Edited September 24, 2015 by Cabbie

[mtaylor]

Chris,

 

Go to the Kit Build Logs and search on keyword: Endeavour.  There's 7 logs it looks like for the AL version.  One of them might have run into this problem and solved it.   I've not done this ship so I'm no help.

[Jaager]

There is a book

Captain Cook's Endeavor (Anatomy of the Ship) Hardcover – April 6, 2010

by Karl Heinz Marquardt (Author)

 

The paste in is from Amazon  -  Using the book,  you should be able to derive just about anything for this vessel.

[Cabbie]

Hi Jaager I am waiting for a new print to become available 6 Oct, hopefully the answer will be in there.

I just thought I might be able to gain a bit of general info. Thanks Chris

[jbshan]

The top of the wale in midships is 6 strakes down from the port sills, if you use the same width planks as the replica.  Best I can do.

[Cabbie]

Thanks Joel Do you know what width the upper strakes are on the replica.

They look about 180mm to 200mm going by the photos. Chris

[trippwj]

While not able to answer about the wales, I can discuss a bit about design waterlines. Regrettably, they were more art than science. The designer showed where the ship should float, but it all depended on lading and ballast to achieve. The British didn't adopt more scientific methods of calculating displacement until mid-1800's, even though early (approximate) methods were known in the mid to late 1600's.

[Cabbie]

Thanks Wayne it sounds as though that I please myself.  "Let your eye be your guide", as my father would say.

It is really the nice full curve that the replica has that I like, so that is what I will aim for. Thanks Chris

[shipaholic]

It is strange that the waterline and wale positions are not on your plans, I built the AL Endeavour (a long time ago) and there was a plan showing the side view. Here is a photo of the original draught maybe you can judge from this where the wales and water line are. I think that its very important to get the position and curve of the wales correct as it determines the whole look of the ship.

[jbshan]

All I have is a few photos so can't give more than a rough guess on plank width.

The heights really should be noted somewhere in plans or instructions.  It's kind of important.