Nirvana Posted October 24, 2015 #1 Posted October 24, 2015 I am scratching my head over this. Many of are building the longboat, and the plans shows a very low seated windlass. I have been thinking over this and the purpose of it, can anyone shed some light in this matter? mtaylor 1 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
shiloh Posted October 25, 2015 #2 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) A work boat with oars and sailing capabilities which means a mast. The mast and it's rig plus the sail were probably stepped, rigged and used with straight manpower without the aid of the windless. Being a work boat it would be necessary to load barrels, timbers, new and used rope coils and also have the ability to ship and carry out a Kedge Anchor. Probably many other uses where a windless in a boat would be useful. A windless, mast, boom and an assortment of blocks and rope could be great labor saving devices when used by experienced seamen. jud Edited October 25, 2015 by shiloh mtaylor and avsjerome2003 2 Quote
allanyed Posted October 25, 2015 #3 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Per Pages 228-229 of Lavery's Arming and Fitting give a good synopsis of the windlass. As written by Lavery,launches, which pretty much replaced longboats on ships of 20 guns or more by 1780, had windlasses. In addition to the windlass would often be found a davit. Prior to the davit there would have been a lignum vitae sheave over which line would run out. The davit and windlass combination was necessary when lifting the buoy rope in order to lift the crown of a 3 ton anchor that had become embedded in the bottom. No boat crew could do this without the aid of the windlass. The davit rested on a pivot pin as shown on the photo. Hope this helps. Allan Edited October 25, 2015 by allanyed GuntherMT, mtaylor, Mike Y and 2 others 5 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
Jaager Posted October 25, 2015 #4 Posted October 25, 2015 BOATS OF MEN OF WAR MAY,W ENIP/Chatham 1999 describes an interesting addition: two tubular trunks, one on either side of the keel at the windlass, thru the bottom of the Launch. Ropes up thru the trunks to the windlass could lift and hold for transport - anchors and cannon. A solution to a potential tipping or stern dipping problem. Investigation of this was begun in1818. Canute, shiloh and mtaylor 3 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Nirvana Posted October 25, 2015 Author #5 Posted October 25, 2015 Allan, that explanation and pictures along with Jaagers it all make sense. Thank you both of you. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
Erik W Posted October 25, 2015 #6 Posted October 25, 2015 (edited) Per, It looks like others have answered your question. For reference though, here are a couple photos from the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich, England's website that show the detail of the windlass in longboats. Erik Edited October 25, 2015 by Erik W Nikiforos, Canute, shiloh and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Cheerful - Scratch Build - 1:48Finished build: 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways - 1:48
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