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Hi all


Is it possible to do tied up sails on any model? I was thinking that i'd like to add sails to the Supply kit towards the end of her build (in about 3 years with the rate I work) but tied up to the yard arms, is it a simple process or would I need to totally rearrange the ships rigging to accommodate this possibility.


Many thanks for any input.



Current build: Caldercraft 1:64 HM Brig Supply


Finished builds: HMS Endeavours longboat

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By 'tied up' I assume you mean furled? Yes, there are many modelers in this forum, along with examples of their work, who do just that. Browse through the gallery to find some models with furled sails, then find the build logs for those models to see how they did things. Try searching 'furled sails', too - you'll probably get some hits. Good luck!

Chris Coyle
Greer, South Carolina

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Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane

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Have a look at Landlubber Mike's technique for furled sails log <link here> . He discusses the best shape of material to use to ensure the furled sail is not too bulky.


There are other logs that cover this but Mike's log is a good starting point.


It is possible that you may need extra rigging since some kits that are supplied without sails may have a simplified rigging scheme.

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Ian M.


Current build: HMS Unicorn  (1748) - Corel Kit


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An old article ( do not recall the reference) suggested Silk Span for the sail material and reduction of the depth of the sail to 1/3 the original to keep the sail volume under the yard in scale -  the bolt rope/clues/cringles still present.


I think a better way would be to experiment.  Try several degrees  of sail area reduction to find an acceptable look.   See if making the foot of the sail an arc instead of straight across gives a better looking bulk under the yard.

NRG member 45 years



HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - Navall Timber framing

HMS Beagle 1831 refiit  10-gun brig with a small mizzen - Navall (ish) Timber framing

The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842
Flying Fish 1838  pilot schooner -  framed - ready for stern timbers
Porpose II  1836  brigantine/brig - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
Vincennes  1825  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers assembled, need shaping
Peacock  1828  Sloop-of -War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Sea Gull  1838  pilot schooner -  timbers ready for assembly
Relief  1835  ship - timbers ready for assembly


Portsmouth  1843  Sloop-of-War  -  timbers ready for assembly
Le Commerce de Marseilles  1788   118 cannons - framed

La Renommee 1744 Frigate - framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers


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Have a look here:  http://modelshipworldforum.com/ship-model-rigging-and-sails.php


The article Jaager is referring to is one by John Tilley.

"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         



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