Mikeymo Posted May 13, 2016 Share #1 Posted May 13, 2016 Hi Guys, This is my very first build log! As per the thread title, I'm building the HMS Endeavour, by Occre. As I have never, ever built a model ship before, this is going to be very much a discovery process by me and hopefully I achieve a successful outcome! My ship arrived today by courier. I have unpacked it and attaching a couple of pics here. If I am not following the rules or build log protocol, please let me know. I'm fairly new to this forum too. Firstly, I have a set of English instructions. I noticed some folks in other threads saying that didn't receive English instructions by Occre. Secondly...these instructions are very daunting! I am going to be doing a LOT of reading before I start this thing. Having said that, yes, the start of the build might be a couple of weeks away as I am still waiting on some tools to arrive. I have plenty of woodworking tools, but not much in the way of small tools required for this. For example, my set square and spirit level, they're quite massive and not appropriate for this ship. So I have ordered over eBay some smaller versions of certain things. Once everything has arrived then I will kick the build off! Which is good, gives me more time to do some researching. i've tried to read as many of the rules here as possible and I understand the part about not having too much "noise" in build logs...but if it doesn't upset the mods, I'm happy for you guys to offer advice and or criticism in here. Your knowledge and experience is invaluable to me! Never the less, this will be my build log! Please...wish me luck... *gulp* *deep breath* Here goes! WackoWolf, Captain Slog, Nirvana and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harlequin Posted May 13, 2016 Share #2 Posted May 13, 2016 sharp tools and a ready supply of single malt scotch whisky is essential in my book.....especially the latter.....and learn to stop and walk away when things start to go wrong, there is always later. edmay, Bill Hime, dashi and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kees Meijer Posted May 13, 2016 Share #3 Posted May 13, 2016 Hi i am building the same ship..... unreadable they sent the German and Italian building manuals with the kit. i got in contact with OCcre and they send me a copy in English. I am Dutch but i prefer the English manuals. I hope you enjoy the building of the Endeavour as much as i. Mikeymo, Nirvana, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted May 13, 2016 Share #4 Posted May 13, 2016 Welcome aboard the Endeavour Shipbuilder's Club Mike. My best advice, that I received at the start of my build, was to see what others have done. Search the "Build Logs for SHIP MODEL KITS" for HMB Endeavour, and go through other logs. You'll pick up a lot of info, tips and instructions and "how too's". Don't hesitate to contact us. Will always try to help out. Dave R edmay, Mikeymo, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted May 13, 2016 Share #5 Posted May 13, 2016 (edited) Hi Mikeymo Welcome and good luck, Harlequin's advice, not so much the alcohol, but taking a break is a must when things aren't going well. Don't rush. Hooroo Chris Edited May 13, 2016 by Cabbie Bill Hime, harlequin, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted May 13, 2016 Thanks guys! I've been reading heaps, but still more to read! I've already had to take breaks from reading as there is quite a lot of information. So sometimes I just walk away from that....after saving links of course cobra1951, mtaylor, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted May 13, 2016 Share #7 Posted May 13, 2016 I have a lot of links to photos of the replica, which I am copying in my build . I can pass them on if you want. Chris edmay, Mikeymo, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipaholic Posted May 13, 2016 Share #8 Posted May 13, 2016 Yeah no rush, I have been building mine for 5 years so far, but I am doing a lot of scratch building and I only work on it on the weekends when I am not doing other stuff. I remember when I built my first wooden ship - a Corel Victory, it took me two years and I was working on it most nights Just ask if you need some advice, just send a personal message on here, or if you post a question on your build you will usually be flooded with advice from lots of people. Great site this! Nirvana, mtaylor, maggsl_01 and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1:51 (Eaglemoss part work)Previous Builds: USS Constitution (Revell plastic) HMS Victory 1:96 (Corel) HMB Endeavour 1:60 (AL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share #9 Posted May 13, 2016 ...but the feeling of achievement & pride when its complete is immeasurable. That put a huge smile on my face, paul... That's what I'm here for. mtaylor, WackoWolf, edmay and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elijah Posted May 13, 2016 Share #10 Posted May 13, 2016 She looks big! Have fun with her! cobra1951, mtaylor, Nirvana and 1 other 4 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted May 13, 2016 Share #11 Posted May 13, 2016 Hi Mikeymo I am going to be starting the same kit soon looks like it will be a good build once i change the cannons :) Good luck with yours Elijah, mtaylor and Nirvana 3 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 13, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted May 13, 2016 I have a lot of links to photos of the replica, which I am copying in my build . I can pass them on if you want. Chris That would be great, Cabbie! And that gives me an idea.I might head down to Sydney Harbour and see if I can get pics of it. Pretty sure that's where the replica lives! mtaylor, Elijah, DaveRow and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted May 13, 2016 Share #13 Posted May 13, 2016 Ah another Aussie, should have guessed, good stuff http://www.modelships.de/Museums_and_replicas/Endeavour/Photos%20HMB%20Endeavor.htm http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/1207-endeavour-replica-construction-pics-moved-by-moderator/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/endeavourvoyages/albums/with/72157634081735926 http://www.anmm.gov.au/whats-on/vessels/hmb-endeavour And a pdf that you can download . http://juwarki.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/VC-Man-final.pdf Hooroo Chris cobra1951, Bill Hime, Nirvana and 2 others 5 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nirvana Posted May 14, 2016 Share #14 Posted May 14, 2016 (edited) Mikeymo, Edit: Oh I forgot one thing. A warm welcome to MSW! Thank you for the introduction of your journey with Endeavour. I am looking forward to this build. No I am not building her. Have to many waiting anyway. But now I am pulling up the first chair, getting a good cup of java and enjoy this. Edited May 14, 2016 by Nirvana cobra1951, Elijah, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #15 Posted May 17, 2016 I have had a few books arrive! I figured it's better to research, research, research - rather than dive right in and make too may mistakes! I have been reading so much, and watching so many YouTube videos. I'm really loving this. I figured once I have built this ship, I will be well versed in ship anatomy and nautical terminology! What a fun and interesting way to learn about old, wooden ships! I do have two questions though. I honestly didn't think I'd trip up on these....they're basically the very first step! So I have my laser cut keel and bulkhead parts. However, the bulkheads aren't marked or numbered on the laser cut sheet. There's a picture of the hull skeleton assembled, in the instructions, but it doesn't tell me in which order they're to be attached to the keel! So I have 9 pieces for the bulkeads. Is it just a mater of pulling them apart, lining them up and visually determining which one slots where, or is there a method to this? Additionally, how do you guys prize these parts off the laser cut sheeting without causing any damage? It seems my x-acto knife is not an ideal tool for this. I was thinking of using a very fine saw, or a chisel. What do you guys suggest?Thanks in advance! Elijah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbie Posted May 17, 2016 Share #16 Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Hi Mike Usually there is a sheet of paper or 2 showing the laser cut sheets and parts with numbers on them, have a look at your plans. As for getting the parts out, yes cut the waste material with whatever is needed, but for the timber parts try and keep usable pieces of timber, in case you need them to make something. Hooroo Chris Edited May 17, 2016 by Cabbie Elijah, edmay and Bill Hime 3 Quote HM Cutter Mermaid 1817 HMB Endeavour 1768 by Cabbie - Artesania Latina - 1:60 - Kit Fiddle Every action has a consequence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks for your response, Chris. I've uploaded a pic of the instruction sheet where it shows the bulkheads numbered (first post up there). But there is no corresponding number on the laser cut sheeting, and they're all different sizes, albeit a relatively small difference. Due to the picture itself being taken at an angle, it's not very clear as to which one goes where. Perhaps once I have detach all of them from the laser cut template, and stack them next to each other, it might become clear then. I'll see how it goes Edited May 17, 2016 by Mikeymo Elijah and edmay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Hime Posted May 17, 2016 Share #18 Posted May 17, 2016 Your x-acto should do it..use multiple cuts to work your way through the material, never too much pressure. Work the tool with your fingers and wrist with forearms resting on a surface. Patience and a controlled hand will serve you well Warm Regards, Bill Elijah, WackoWolf and Mikeymo 3 Quote Passion is Patience...and I am a carpenter in any scale. Current build; Endurance - 1:70 scale, Occre Current build; H.M.S. Surprise - 1796, 1:48 A L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #19 Posted May 17, 2016 Patience and a controlled hand will serve you well You're right, you know. Patience I have. But never before has it been tested to such a level while model building. I really must reinforce the "take your time" outlook for this project. It's vastly different to ANY model I have previously constructed. Some people tell me it could take me up to two years to build. Initially that scared me, but now I kinda like the idea of something that takes that long to build. It'll be built with love, that's for sure. WackoWolf and Elijah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsl_01 Posted May 17, 2016 Share #20 Posted May 17, 2016 Hi Mike, I also want to say "Welcome aboard". I have built the Occre Kit of the Endeavour before. It is a challenge - but it is also fun and a real good time (for me more than a year at least). I will come by and have a look from time to time. In my signature you'll find a link to my log - if you want to take look. Cheerio - and a good time with your Endeavour Max Mikeymo and Elijah 2 Quote Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 17, 2016 Author Share #21 Posted May 17, 2016 Hi guys, Thanks for your words of encouragement! Just taking a loo at your build log, maggs - very nice mate! The more and more I dig through this forum, the more and more Occre Endeavours I find! Which is going to be of great assistance to me! I'm discovering that, from almost everyone who has built an Endeavour, that they're moving a little away from the instructions and "doing their own thing" on some occasions. I like customisation, but I also find it pretty scary considering this is my first ever ship build. My course of action is to thoroughly read and understand the instructions and plans, then take as much advice as I can take from the build logs of completed Endeavours. So I apologise if it seems at times that I am copying someone else's style. Please take it as a compliment I think perhaps over the next few days I will be ready to get the hull skeleton going. Keel and bulkheads and such. It's an exciting thing. I really do feel like a kid at Christmas.One thing I haven't found yet, perhaps I haven't read through all the instructions, is a list of the paint that I'll need. Is anyone able to point out what colours I need to buy? I guess including the lacquers, varnish and stains - if they're also used. That would be really helpful. Cheers guys (and gals)... Elijah and WackoWolf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #22 Posted May 18, 2016 Thanks, Paul.....that's a great start. I'll see where I can find and order them online In this day and age, it's amazing that I don't have to hop into the car to buy anything! Elijah and WackoWolf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #23 Posted May 18, 2016 Okay well, the first stage of work has begun, not a lot to show here as I've just started to pull off the pieces that make up the keel and then the bulkhead pieces. I guess I just wanted to show my workspace, too. WackoWolf, Elijah, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted May 18, 2016 I live in Sydney, Australia! So thanks for the tip....I'll check them out That reminds me, I should update my profile with a location. Elijah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeymo Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share #25 Posted May 18, 2016 Hmmm...now I just need to figure out how much in millilitres I should buy Elijah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveRow Posted May 18, 2016 Share #26 Posted May 18, 2016 Okay well, the first stage of work has begun, not a lot to show here as I've just started to pull off the pieces that make up the keel and then the bulkhead pieces. I guess I just wanted to show my workspace, too. Hi Mike, Let know when you run out of desk space for your build. I extended my space 3 times now, so much bits and bobs gathered for the build. And that is not counting the shed machinery. Dave R Elijah 1 Quote Dave R Measure twice, cut once. Current Build: HMB Endeavour 1768 (In the shipyard being constructed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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