Overworked724 Posted January 23, 2019 Author #301 Posted January 23, 2019 (edited) Now that the bowsprit is solidly mounted (checked again this morning), I can get the gammoning done this evening. Since this is the first time I’ve rigged a ship, I’m taking my time to practice my knots/etc. It pays off - since I have a better impression in my mind what I should expect when applying it to the model. Below was my my recent attempt tying the gammoning using some old line and toothpicks mounted in my vice. The initial siezing to make an eye, the waxing, tying the gammoning, the repeated half hitches, and finally burying the loose end...a lot going on in this one rigging step. Besides that, you want it to look decent!!! Practice makes perfect (or in my case...acceptable! ) Moving on... Edited January 23, 2019 by Overworked724 thibaultron, Elijah and lmagna 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted January 24, 2019 Author #302 Posted January 24, 2019 (edited) Going to call this attempt a win and move on! Gammoning turned out pretty good. Lesson for future is don’t make the gammon hole in the stem rounded! Moving on... Edited January 24, 2019 by Overworked724 lmagna, gerty, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted January 24, 2019 Author #303 Posted January 24, 2019 Time for some touch up paint in the bow section before fiddling with the shrouds, bobstay, and foot ropes! Also, I just realized I need to make a few more open hearts - which won't be a problem now that I've made quite a few and have some practice making them. I could use the ones I purchased from Syren, but where's the pride in that! My little Sultana is filled with errors, but she still looking quite handsome! More to follow...meeting cancelled for this evening, so I'll be working in the shipyard --- staring at the snow. Elijah, thibaultron and lmagna 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
lmagna Posted January 25, 2019 #304 Posted January 25, 2019 Brings a whole new meaning to "Snow day"! Elijah, thibaultron and Overworked724 3 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted January 26, 2019 Author #305 Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) Made a simple tying jig. The alligator clip jaws bruise the line (especially after waxing). Made a simple workaround by cutting a little section of a 3x5” note card and trimming it to fit inside the jaws. TaDaaa!!! No more line bruising. Got it started on the bowsprit shrouds. Minor progress but it’s progress!! Edited January 27, 2019 by Overworked724 thibaultron, zappto, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted January 27, 2019 Author #306 Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) This was Bobstay Day!!! Finally stopped analyzing and made progress. The bobstay is as complicated as I’d thought. That laniard between the hearts is just as confusing to me. The technique to tie this thing was a process unknown to me. So...I decided to stop looking for good modeling techniques to tie lanyards and just did it. Below was my process. Rather than focus on whether it was correct, I focused on clean work. Slow. Methodical. In truth, I think the result was a good one...and I’m sure others have some education to impart for improving my technique for future ships! First, I knew the bobstay hole in the stem was too high (or the figurehead too low). I needed to mount the figurehead to get a feel for how to manage the misalignment. So....I did. The position of the bobstay hole was going to impede clean reach to the corresponding bowsprit collar. Leaving me three options...redrill a new bobstay hole, rig the bobstay so the lines run under the figurehead, or rig it so the each side of the doubled bobstay runs along either side of the figurehead. I opted for the latter. The lines running along the ‘hips’ of the figurehead might not be historically accurate, but give the subtle illusion of the ship’s lines ‘holding’ or supporting the lady figurehead. Frankly, I think it’s a nice look. I started with tying the heart and siezing done off the model. I left a long length of line like Chuck did so I double up along the length after attaching to the bobstay hole. After winding the length through the bobstay hole, I used an alligator clip to hold it st the appropriate length. Chuck’s practicum really helps here!!! Notice that since I was running the sides of the bobstay along either side of the figurehead, I siezed far enough away to ensure I had some wiggle room to fit it around the figurehead. After I completed the last siezing, I ensured my last knot (siezing) was slipped close enough to allow the remnant ends of the bobstay line to be clipped off and result in a doubled bobstay with knots equally spaced along its length. Actually, it’s not as hard as I’d thought it would be! The tying board helped a lot. I then attached one end of the laniard to the collar heart. I used a simple slip not to simulated a bullseye. Then just cinched it up to the collar heart. From here I ran it back and forth under light tension about 7-8 times as Chuck mentioned. I simply tucked in the last wind after applying a tiny drop of CA glue on the line. Clip and snip...then sat back and looked at the effect. Laniard was even. The collars were fairly well aligned. The bobstay wrapped around the figurehead. Not a bad effect and some nice progress. Up next...shrouds...which are already prepped with hooks and hearts. Slow and steady!!! Damn the torpedoes!!!! Edited January 27, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, Tigersteve, zappto and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
lmagna Posted January 28, 2019 #307 Posted January 28, 2019 HI Patrick I think I would have just plugged nthe old hold with a chunk of toothpick and made a new hole a few mm's lower on the stem. But thw way you did it still looks fine and you are definitely making progress. Nice work. Nice clamp mod as well. thibaultron, zappto and Elijah 3 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted January 28, 2019 Author #308 Posted January 28, 2019 Thanks, Lou. The toothpick plug and bobstay hole reset was a pretty close second. I have been thinking about this for about a year (No joke). I will consider this (and other) aspects in my next build. In truth, I would have had to redrill the hole about 1cm below the current position to allow unimpeded access to the collar. This would have put it below the waterline per the ship plans...and would be equally incorrect. So...by modifying the stem design to remove the front portion of the stem...which would have (in my opinion) blocked the front view of the figurehead (why block to view of a beautiful bosom?...yeah...I said it)...I ended up compromising where the bobstay would have to be positioned to have clear access to the collar. I checked the plans, and the bowsprit is angled correctly. So this was my fault by deviating from the plans...since I had to set the bobstay hole farther back (towards the bulkhead). My bad. Elijah, zappto and thibaultron 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted January 28, 2019 Author #309 Posted January 28, 2019 And....shrouds and footropes installed. Going to call this a win and move on!! 😁 thibaultron, Elijah, Tigersteve and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted January 29, 2019 Author #310 Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) One thing I needed to contend with sooner or later was the trestle trees. Both were made from a solid piece of wood. The slot where the top masts go was actually a hole. Both top masts would slip through and it’s going to be a pain to set them like that...so decided to do something radical. I cut a cross section of dowel that was the same (actually slightly smaller) than the diameter of the hole in the trestle trees and roughly 1/2 the width of the cap. Then I glued in the section into each...sanded a bit. Now simply need to paint. The slot in the trestle trees will hold the top masts with no difficulty and I can simply slide the top masts through the mast caps and set them in the trees when ready. (Yeah...it’s not the way the ship was designed, but it will give a clean look and the illusion will hold) I’ve prepped my shrouds pairs and will mount the mast caps after I’ve completed installing the rigging/blocks for both masts. When I’m ready, I can easily insert both top masts without need of worry of alignment...and just use a touch of wood glue in the ‘slot’ in each mast cap. Moving on... Edited January 29, 2019 by Overworked724 lmagna, thibaultron and Elijah 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 1, 2019 Author #311 Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Ok. Thimbles. The foremast has an eye bolt on both port and starboard sides. These are for the main stay and main topmast stay. (Still learning jargon...but they are the lines coming from the double block which will be siezed at the top of the fore mast just beneath the mast cap) Chuck’s practicum shows him making a thimble out of a loop in the line which is tied to the eye bolt (a thimble is like a reinforced loop which protects the line from friction...the reinforced portion was made from metal or sometime bone). He mentioned that buying thimbles commercially for a model at this scale would make them look oversized. Rather than making them from line...which I now feel I could probably do...I tried using my drilled out dead eyes. (Ok...these are closed basically closed hearts) The pics below capture my step by step approach...without YouTube and other blogs, I’d be dead in the water!!! I’m honestly not certain if they are too big...but I thought I did a fair job making them from scratch. So...I’m keeping them on. They will be glue into the deck when I’m ready to step the masts. Moving on! Edited February 1, 2019 by Overworked724 Tigersteve, thibaultron, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 1, 2019 Author #312 Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Ok. So that last pic in the post above bugged me...I tried the mast coamings on the mast and, although they looked good, seemed a bit off. The mast coamings which I made earlier using wire and then painted red, were done akin to Chuck’s method in his practicum. The pic below shows my initial coaming (unpainted) for the main mast. Now, the method I had developed earlier (and is pretty easy) to make my full wrap around boom rest, is easily applied in the same way here to make both coamings from wood. Step by step...here is the way I do it. One exacto with #11 blade, one flat razor, an emery board for sanding, 1/32” basswood sheet from Hobby Lobby....taaadaaa. After trimming to size and sanding, make sure to bevel the edges to round them off. Both coamings took me about 20 minutes. So...now I have 2 sets of mast coamings. Metal and wood. I tend to think the wood ones look more natural (ie. imperfect). The coamings were a side project. Working on my blocks/tackle in the background today. Fun!!! Movin’ on... Edited February 1, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, Tigersteve, lmagna and 3 others 6 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
thibaultron Posted February 1, 2019 #313 Posted February 1, 2019 The wood coamings do look better! lmagna, Elijah and Overworked724 3 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial
lmagna Posted February 1, 2019 #314 Posted February 1, 2019 I agree, I like the wood better. Elijah, Overworked724 and thibaultron 3 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted February 1, 2019 Author #315 Posted February 1, 2019 So does the Admiral...and so do I frankly! Will stain them and call it a day on the mast coats. Elijah, lmagna and thibaultron 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 4, 2019 Author #316 Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) A bit more progress. Anchors are done. Also fixed the mast caps and painted. I see from the front the masts are at the right rake, and that the trees and caps are parallel to each other. Minor bit askew due to a small misalignment when drilling my mast holes, but I’ll live with it. Lesson learned for next time. Have not yet stepped the masts or topmasts. Have a couple more blocks to tie, then will add the mast coats and step main and fore masts. I’m thinking of waiting to secure the shrouds before I step the topmasts...decisions, decisions!!! Moving on....😊 Edited February 4, 2019 by Overworked724 thibaultron, zappto, gerty and 3 others 6 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 5, 2019 Author #317 Posted February 5, 2019 I’m a stickler for directions. Finally found a good reference to guide me in how to rig my catheads and hang my anchors!!! Elijah, thibaultron and lmagna 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
lmagna Posted February 5, 2019 #318 Posted February 5, 2019 So what is your source Patrick? Elijah and thibaultron 2 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted February 5, 2019 Author #319 Posted February 5, 2019 Hi Lou! I found two online graphic references. One was from a pdf of the Instruction for the Golden Hind. The other from a pictorial guide for the Syren, written by Chuck Passaro. Both give a pretty nice account of rigging the cathead to hang the anchor, and sling the flukes to a timber head. I love the look. The terminatingend of the line returning through the cathead is tied to the cleat on the base of the cathead. The other end is tied to the eyebolt on the side of the cathead. I simply couldn’t figure out from Chuck’s practicum how it would be rigged as he didn’t go into detail on this point. Moving on!!! Tigersteve, GrandpaPhil, lmagna and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
lmagna Posted February 5, 2019 #320 Posted February 5, 2019 Thanks for the pictures Patrick Your fore deck is really starting to fill in! Overworked724, Elijah and thibaultron 3 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted February 7, 2019 Author #321 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Masts are ready to be stepped. God help me... Crazy part is, I’m over analyzing how to step the masts so that if....IF!...I need to remove them for repairs (or to make a correction for some error or accident), I can actually do it. I am trying to ensure that when I mount the masts, I can (in some fashion) get them back out. Damn it... Edited February 7, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah and thibaultron 2 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 7, 2019 Author #322 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Bit the bullet. Stepped the masts! No turning back! Set the blocks and bullseyes first. Then set up the mast coats and glued in the masts. Used carpenter’s glue and looked multiple directions as it set. Helpful to add the top masts to help eyeball the symmetry as the glue sets. As I noted earlier, the top masts are not set yet. Easy to remove them until I need to mount them. Moving on!!!! Edited February 7, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, Tigersteve, russ and 5 others 8 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
lmagna Posted February 7, 2019 #323 Posted February 7, 2019 One small step for Sultana, one giant leap for Patrick! Elijah and thibaultron 2 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
Overworked724 Posted February 7, 2019 Author #324 Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) Yep!! Edited February 7, 2019 by Overworked724 thibaultron, Elijah and lmagna 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 12, 2019 Author #325 Posted February 12, 2019 (edited) Just messing around with my deadeye practice. I want the upper deadeyes to look uniform. Only practice will help...so using my spare vice and some thread. I’m getting there.... Need more practice though!!! Edited February 12, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, lmagna and Tigersteve 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 13, 2019 Author #326 Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) My first attempt at deadeyes took me some time to gather courage. My first two look pretty good. The aft one is a touch lower than the one near the stem, but not bad for my very first deadeyes. Of note is that I changed my seizing thread from a synthetic thread (right deadeye) to a pure cotton blend (left deadeye). I found the knots were easier to slide and the siezings didn’t bunchup as much. But I think I’m getting a better feel for the dead eyes and how they are rigged. It’s a learning process.... Moving on!!!! Edited February 13, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, thibaultron, Tigersteve and 1 other 4 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 16, 2019 Author #327 Posted February 16, 2019 I’m thinking of retrying those lanyards...I just discovered the magic that is beeswax! lmagna, thibaultron and Elijah 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
thibaultron Posted February 16, 2019 #328 Posted February 16, 2019 I understand that bee's wax is slightly acidic/basic and can damage rigging over time. They sell a similar wax, used by museums that is PH neutral. I can't remember where I saw it for sale though. Elijah and lmagna 2 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial
Overworked724 Posted February 16, 2019 Author #329 Posted February 16, 2019 Well...I love the smell. And surprisingly, the line is straight and well behaved after running it through the wax cake...and also has a nice tacky feel. thibaultron, Elijah and lmagna 3 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
Overworked724 Posted February 18, 2019 Author #330 Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) A mix of monotonous and fun progress! Spent some time sanding, shaping, and painting my shroud cleats. So those are done...thank God! Still working through my shrouds and lanyards, which are looking pretty tight! Finally decided to take a break and do something fun. My walnut transom looks nice, but was a bit sparse. I ordered some wood carving templates for bas relief used on another model from Syren since I wanted to start working up a different skill set...and decided to order a resin casting of the same bas relief. I thought I might use it to decorate the transom! The effect was so nice, I decided to go ahead and see if I could get lucky placing it on the ship! Granted...if I could go back and redo the windows now, I would! But, the relief painted black to match the trim adds a very polished touch. Moving on! Edited February 18, 2019 by Overworked724 Elijah, Tigersteve, lmagna and 2 others 5 Quote ---------------------------------------------------- “Work like a Captain....Play like a Pirate!” — Every Ship Modeler...everywhere.
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