Submarineman Posted January 23, 2017 Share #1 Posted January 23, 2017 Hi Guys, Well after moving house last year, I have eventually made progress on my man cave. Whilst this was happening I have had loads of time to research the finer point of HMS Victory (I served on her in the late 70's as buffers party for two months). Have come to the conclusion that Constructo kits are not that detailed; hence more and more research into how I want my model to look. Initial Changes I intend to make are: Fibre optic lighting See through gallery Make all ropes on my own Ropewalk Well that's plan! Talking of plans I came across a wonderful website "Myhobbystore.com". And purchased a set of six plans for £27.50, well worth it. See attached photos. Progress thus far is cutting out plywood hull components: will keep updated as and when I get time to do more Charter33, mtbediz and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share #2 Posted February 21, 2019 It never rains but it pours, since I started this topic I was just about to start the model Victory - then wham lost all feeling in my left arm, surgery, physiotherapy and a lot of pain and learning to cope have taken its toll. Luckily I am now back to where I feel I can carry on, so expect a lot more posts in the coming weeks. mtbediz and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted February 21, 2019 Share #3 Posted February 21, 2019 Welcome aboard sorry to hear about your arm - hope all is good now, you have a great site here full of knowledge and helpful people - looking forward to seeing your progress. OC. mtbediz 1 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted February 21, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted February 21, 2019 Man cave at the ready: Old Collingwood, mtbediz, vossiewulf and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share #5 Posted February 26, 2019 Dry fitting the bulkheads before drilling holes for fibre Optic light routing, got to be a little methodical here as it'll probably be the only chance to get it right. Observations that some of the pre-cut bulkheads are not symmetrical and a little loose, I've set myself two years to build so no rush (Especially when I have had the kit for over four years). mtbediz and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 1, 2019 Author Share #6 Posted March 1, 2019 Whilst thinking about where on the Vic I want to have lighting (Fibre Optic) I have realised that I will have to open up some of the bulkheads, especially at the gallery area! Then thinking ahead once again the question in my head was how do I want both the weather deck and gallery to look like when complete? I absolutely hate the Constructo kit with the stick on brass accents and decorations - so they are a no go, so the question is what to do? Resolution is more work than I had planned and go off track and carve the decorative gallery, starting with laminating the vertical stern window post and build out the gallery, then focus on the Balustrades with my trusty Dremel. All this And I have only physically started the dry fit of keel and bulkheads - am I over thinking this? Has anyone had this dilemma before really starting? Is this going to be a constant - thinking 20 steps ahead and seemingly not moving forward? AntonyUK, Old Collingwood and mtbediz 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #7 Posted March 3, 2019 A little progress: bearding line sanded down on the keel. bulkheads opened up for lighting (To be laid) bulkheads fixed (God bless 1,2,3 Engineering Blocks - so easy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #8 Posted March 3, 2019 Have heard nightmares about fragile pieces breaking off inadvertently, so learning lessons from others on this forum. Have cut temporary fillets to hopefully prevent this happening during build - will have adjust when decking is laid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted March 3, 2019 During my time of immobility I completed the Excel document of parts so they are easy to find, screenshots below: Katsumoto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #10 Posted March 3, 2019 Trial and error caulking, eventually decided on using the method of Archival ink brush that does not leach too far: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsumoto Posted March 3, 2019 Share #11 Posted March 3, 2019 Very well organized sir! Good luck with this beauty and hopefully everthing is going better with your arm. Submarineman 1 Quote Regards, Peter Current project - Xebec Cazador 1750 bashed Previous project - Santa Maria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted March 3, 2019 Constructo!!!!! The planking in the kit leaves a lot to be desired???? look at the warp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #13 Posted March 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Katsumoto said: Very well organized sir! Good luck with this beauty and hopefully everthing is going better with your arm. Thanks for the comments, very much appreciated. Had a great deal of down time to read forums, plan ahead and micro manage what I wanted to do - had the kit for nearly 4 years, and lots of stops and starts. Just got my teeth into it only to find out that I am having more surgery on my shoulder on 15th March, but this shouldn't limit my progress. Don't want to rush it, just build methodically and learn from others. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 3, 2019 Author Share #14 Posted March 3, 2019 Some of the workshop bits and bats that may help me way or another? god bless Dremel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share #15 Posted March 5, 2019 On 3 March 2019 at 5:01 PM, Katsumoto said: Very well organized sir! Good luck with this beauty and hopefully everthing is going better with your arm. Planking jig made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share #16 Posted March 5, 2019 Fibre Optic preps next on the agenda - I have opted for battery power instead of mains as I have no idea if the completed model will sit near any power sockets - just cannot think that far ahead! Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peveka Posted March 5, 2019 Share #17 Posted March 5, 2019 Hi Submarineman Quite a project ... definitely going to follow this one. Best of luck! Cheers Pieter Submarineman and Old Collingwood 2 Quote Some much wood so little time ... Current builds: Nulli Cedo, an 18th century Dutch war clog, HMS Bellona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share #18 Posted March 5, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Submarineman said: Planking jig made Now the deck planking jig has been tested, the additional jig to drill the treenails (trunalls) has been made to fit - simple brass strip 5mm wide with locator pieces glued so that I can get consistent results - so the tedious process of cut, drill and caulk until all are needed. Luckily, I can practice on the lower decks which won't really be visible to hone in my skills. Edited March 5, 2019 by Submarineman Adding another point Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 5, 2019 Author Share #19 Posted March 5, 2019 Still need to drill a few more holes for treenails - but you get the general idea? Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share #20 Posted March 27, 2019 Update, laborious process of treenails continues, to break the monotony I have started the preps for the scratch build of the stern gallery as I do not like the kits method. Started by gradually narrowing the 8 uprights (they get thinner at the top of the gallery), then applying laminate pear wood, the next step will be to route out the areas that sit behind the actual stern decorations - best laid plans Old Collingwood and AntonyUK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Coleman Posted March 27, 2019 Share #21 Posted March 27, 2019 Victory as a first wooden build will be an eye opener. Looking good. Quote Regards, Scott Current build: 1:75 Friesland, Mamoli Completed builds: 1:64 Rattlesnake, Mamoli - 1:64 HMS Bounty, Mamoli - 1:54 Adventure, Amati - 1:80 King of the Mississippi, AL 1:64 Blue Shadow, Mamoli - 1:64 Leida Dutch pleasure boat, Corel - 1:60 HMS President Mantra, Sergal Awaiting construction: 1:89 Hermione La Fayette AL - 1:48 Perserverance, Modelers shipyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntonyUK Posted March 27, 2019 Share #22 Posted March 27, 2019 HI. A nice man cave And a load of tooling to get the job done A good start on the Victory. Are you using any books for reference ?? Will be interesting to watch the lighting with Fibre optics. Not tried this yet.. So will be watching with interest. Will follow along and I have the kitchen stool on the right booked as my front row seat. One assumes you were a submariner ?? with the Name and the bulkhead door. Regards Antony. Quote Best advice ever given to me."If you don't know ..Just ask. Completed Mayflower Completed Fun build Tail boat Tailboat Completed Build Chinese Junk Chinese Pirate Junk Completed scratch built Korean Turtle ship 1/32 Turtle ship Completed Santa Lucia Sicilian Cargo Boat 1/30 scale Santa Lucia On hold. Bounty Occre 1/45 Completed HMS Victory by DeAgostini modelspace. DeAgostini Victory Cross Section Completed H.M.S. Victory X section by Coral. HMS Victory cross section Completed The Black Pearl fun build Black Queen Completed A large scale Victory cross section 1/36 Victory Cross Section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share #23 Posted March 27, 2019 9 hours ago, AntonyUK said: HI. A nice man cave And a load of tooling to get the job done A good start on the Victory. Are you using any books for reference ?? Will be interesting to watch the lighting with Fibre optics. Not tried this yet.. So will be watching with interest. Will follow along and I have the kitchen stool on the right booked as my front row seat. One assumes you were a submariner ?? with the Name and the bulkhead door. Regards Antony. Hi Antony, Thanks for the comments, yes I was a submariner for 26 years on both Diesel and Nuclear RN submarines, actually served on HMS Victory on Buffers party in the late 70's. My decision to include LED Lighting came about when thinking how best to improve the crap Constructo Stern Gallery, but with decisions like this comes lots of forward planning and thought process - a great deal of chicken before the egg; This is the most challenging aspect of the lighting to tell you the truth, tha actual lighting is very simple - couple of LED's lighting some 1mm fibre optic cable - just drill 1mm holes to place the fibre optic. But as mentioned - thinking ahead is why I am focussing on the stern gallery scratch build so that the lanterns, captains, admirals quarters and lower gun decks are lit. One step forward ten steps back. reference materials - so many, I'll list them later in this build log, what I do find useful is the Excel spreadsheet with all the part numbers and descriptions (see one of the earlier posts). AntonyUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share #24 Posted March 27, 2019 11 hours ago, S.Coleman said: Victory as a first wooden build will be an eye opener. Looking good. Nothing like a challenge, just need to be methodical. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share #25 Posted April 3, 2019 Update, laborious process of treenails continues, to break the monotony I have started the preps for the scratch build of the stern gallery as I do not like the kits method. Started by gradually narrowing the 8 uprights (they get thinner at the top of the gallery), then applying laminate pear wood, the next step will be to route out the areas that sit behind the actual stern decorations - best laid plans At the first attempt the stern gallery has not come out as I would have expected, so it's a matter of starting again - I am sure that this will not be the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Hoss Posted April 3, 2019 Share #26 Posted April 3, 2019 Nice start, great work shop... Quote Current: Emma C. Berry Lobster Smack-Model Shipways-1:32-1866 Back on the shelf: USS Essex- MS- "Old Yellow Box" Solid Hull Wall Hanger (Half Hull) Completed: 18th Century Armed Longboat-MS 1/24 USN Picket Boat-MS 1864 1/24 US Brig Syren by Sea Hoss- Model Shipways-1803 18th Century Carronade/Ship Section Mayflower-Pilgrims Pride by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways-1620 18th Century Long Boat by Sea Hoss-Model Shipways USS Constitution by Sea Hoss-Revel-Plastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted April 6, 2019 Author Share #27 Posted April 6, 2019 Second attempt, nearly there - just need to realign a couple of the widow frames and then start on Windows and stern decorations Old Collingwood 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul0367 Posted April 8, 2019 Share #28 Posted April 8, 2019 Hi mate So glad you are back and able to build whats going to be a beauty, First wooden ship and you are pre thinking Fibre Optic, brave man. I have to confess I have never been on your site, Sorry, I just never seam to surf the site of other builds especially from a mobile, so I am on my laptop and thought its time to look around. (this site is humbling and makes me realize I have a lot to learn, stunning ships) I remember you were prepping for the build and whaaaaaaaaaat, prepair you sure have, love the man cave that's on another level, tool station will be borrowing your stock. Very clever approach to the stern Gallery, I had a nightmare with mine. I have tagged your build and will be getting notifications on your post to keep an eye on how she is progressing. I have just passed year five of my build, I could see without glasses when I started. keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Submarineman Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share #29 Posted April 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Paul0367 said: Hi mate So glad you are back and able to build whats going to be a beauty, First wooden ship and you are pre thinking Fibre Optic, brave man. I have to confess I have never been on your site, Sorry, I just never seam to surf the site of other builds especially from a mobile, so I am on my laptop and thought its time to look around. (this site is humbling and makes me realize I have a lot to learn, stunning ships) I remember you were prepping for the build and whaaaaaaaaaat, prepair you sure have, love the man cave that's on another level, tool station will be borrowing your stock. Very clever approach to the stern Gallery, I had a nightmare with mine. I have tagged your build and will be getting notifications on your post to keep an eye on how she is progressing. I have just passed year five of my build, I could see without glasses when I started. keep up the good work Hey Paul, thanks for the kind comments, yes I've had a lot of time to prepare for the build, what with house moves, illness and partial disability I feel I am ready to commit. Have followed your build for the full five years during my ups and downs and am totally impressed with the standard of workmanship, in actual fact your ethos of adding items that are not supplied with the kit set my mind to doing some elements of scratch build in certain areas - such as the Stern Gallery and LED / fibre optic lighting. But as I have mentioned in this build log, this decision has led to thinking ten moves ahead to ensure the fibre optics are aligned and identify where I want the lighting to maximum effect. This is why I am focussing on the Stern area, at the same time cutting treenails and decking. I am am just about to make a bending jig so that I can curve the stern, plan is to soak in hot water and place into the homemade jig / press - hopefully it won't fall apart - main concern is the Titebond glue losing adhesion during the soaking process. It's going to be a long journey but one I am looking forward too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul0367 Posted March 8, 2020 Share #30 Posted March 8, 2020 Hi Well its 3 months into 2020, and actually my birthday today and I have'nt touched the Victory in many a month, generally ive lost the interest in it since loosing my mother inlaw who I used to joke about her housing the finised model. Also my wife, who is training to go to Jet 2 having been made redundant from Thomas cook when they went under. Normally when she is flying I do the model but otherwise my time is spent with her when she is home, Summer is a big game changer too as we want to be out there living and not cooped up in a room building. Your post have also stopped, have you chaned your buid or having a break ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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