sailor jim Posted April 17, 2013 #1 Posted April 17, 2013 Has anyone purchased or built one of the kits from Russia? Just wondering if the materials & plans are good or not understandable as a majority of other kitmakers from other countries are. Thanks Quote
jarero Posted April 17, 2013 #2 Posted April 17, 2013 Do you have any brand names or a link? I'm not familiar with any Russian kits which makes me wonder if they are like some of the Chinese copycat kits? Quote -------------------------------In Progress Build:Robert E. Lee by Scientific a.k.a "The Bob"Completed Build: Swift 1805 by AL -Jared
overdale Posted April 17, 2013 #3 Posted April 17, 2013 (edited) Be careful, there is one russian outfit on ebay that is selling Chinese made pirated kits from other mainstream manufacturers. Presumably as a front. Edited April 17, 2013 by overdale Quote
ccoyle Posted April 17, 2013 #4 Posted April 17, 2013 A kit from Russia, or a Russian kit? There are some legitimate Russian kit designs on the market. We had at least one posted on the old site, and it looked very nice. Also some nice kits coming out of Croatia as well. Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
demonborger Posted April 18, 2013 #5 Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Are you talking about the ebay seller from the Russian Federation who is selling Soleil Royale, San Felipe, Ingermanland, Golden Dawn et al? If that is the one then they are actually made by Z.H.L a Chinese manufacturer who has copied Mantua/Sergal/Panart kits and the Druid is taken from another. But from what I can tell many of the parts are inferior, the castings are resin also and not metal - look how terrible the Soleil Royal resin casting is. Having said that, does anyone know whose plans they stole from to make the Ingermanland from? That kit does look slightly better than the others... Edited April 18, 2013 by demonborger WackoWolf and avsjerome2003 2 Quote Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
mtaylor Posted April 18, 2013 #6 Posted April 18, 2013 Simply put, kits from ZHL are banned from MSW. Read here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/181-banned-kit-manufacturers-on-msw/ WackoWolf 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
overdale Posted April 18, 2013 #7 Posted April 18, 2013 Are you talking about the ebay seller from the Russian Federation who is selling Soleil Royale, San Felipe, Ingermanland, Golden Dawn et al? If that is the one then they are actually made by Z.H.L a Chinese manufacturer who has copied Mantua/Sergal/Panart kits and the Druid is taken from another. But from what I can tell many of the parts are inferior, the castings are resin also and not metal - look how terrible the Soleil Royal resin casting is. Having said that, does anyone know whose plans they stole from to make the Ingermanland from? That kit does look slightly better than the others... Yes, that's the guy I was talking about. Quote
demonborger Posted April 18, 2013 #8 Posted April 18, 2013 (edited) Zvezda? Nah they don't fall under the ban list, they are one of the better quality plastic model manufacturers. The ban list is of companies that plagiarise other manufacturers kits, with vastly inferior quality materials and metal castings (that are resin and look like they were sculpted by a 5 year old). The majority (in fact all the ones i know of) that plagiarise are from china, of which ZHL seems to have the biggest market exposure. Edited April 18, 2013 by demonborger Quote Kits owned: Mamoli Royal Louis, Mamoli Friesland, Mamoli HMS Victory 1:90, Occre Santisima Trinidad, Constructo HMS Prince
sailor jim Posted April 18, 2013 Author #9 Posted April 18, 2013 Hey Guys: Yes that is the Russian Federation fronting for a Chinese company. No, I have not considered buying one, only interested in some feedback from as to the folks who are up on these things. Thanks everyone> Jim Quote
ReD_BuLL Posted April 28, 2013 #10 Posted April 28, 2013 A kit from Russia, or a Russian kit? There are some legitimate Russian kit designs on the market. We had at least one posted on the old site, and it looked very nice. Also some nice kits coming out of Croatia as well. I would take a Croatian kit over Russian kit anyday. I am from Russia and know how they work there. Expect to have something not right with your kit. Or even a part of a piece broken off or missing. Quality not that great. Buy American or European. Quote
ReD_BuLL Posted April 28, 2013 #11 Posted April 28, 2013 Yes, that's the guy I was talking about. Yep, I know that one. Looked at his stuff once before. Quote
Shura Posted March 17, 2014 #12 Posted March 17, 2014 Yes, we Russians have the company which make wooden kits. At present on sale of 3 boats, the bot and brigantine "Phoenix". There are all Russian ships. Site of the producer: http://master-korabel.ru/index.php?act=subsec&id=64. Photo instruction of collecting of a brgantine "Phoenix": http://master-korabel.ru/manuals/mk0401_ph_instr.pdf Quote
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