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Hey all! Ive been working on the round gunports on the weatherdeck. They are very unsymmetrical and quite different from eachother and I wanted to try and and get that look on my model.  

 

Here are some pics on the real ship that I took the pics at the museum.

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And two on the 1:10 model. They are too thick and to me look idealized.

 

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And finally are pics of how mine turned out. The ones closest to the stern are based on the Landstöm book, he thought they would sit differently, and sits to high. For me the best soultion was to do them in halves.

 

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Phew, that was a long post, sorry. But I wanted to share the reference images if anyone needs them.

 

 

/Matti

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Billing Boats Vasa

Posted

Brilliant work and pictures Matti B)  B)  B)  :wub:  :wub:  :wub:

 

I do agree with your observations regarding the 1/10 model.I think these have been standardized/simplified to enable them to be cast from the same mould.

 

Kind Regards Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

Posted

Your build with all of your first hand references at the actual ship and the museum's model are priceless. Someone else mentioned it before but I'll 2nd the idea - your build is looking nicer than the museum model!! You make great efforts to get the 'wonky' feel of the original where the museum model is more 'perfect'. Just my humble opinion.

 

Best wishes,

-Buck

 

Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build)

 

Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...

Posted

Matti,

 

Nice pics. Your painting details on those small creatures that run along the breaks at the upper railings is so excellent. Nice work !

 

Michael

Michael

Current buildSovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal

Under the table:

Golden Hind - C Mamoli    Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati

Completed:   

Santa Maria-Mantua --

Vasa-Corel -

Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th

Gallery :    Santa Maria - Vasa

 

 

 

 

Posted

More nice work Matti....but I just noticed something on the original I never have before.

 

On the lower gun ports, here's the pic you posted that shows it best

 

Am I seeing it right or is it shadows, the right-most doesn't appear as it could be shadow.... They look to have a relief cut into the wale for the gunport lid to fit in above the actual port. Is it me just seeing something that is a trick of the lighting or is she this way?

 

Also, did all the gun port doors have lions heads originally on the inside?

Posted

The supports for the.. plank thingie (the three iron bars between the leftmost two gunports) have pretty distinct shadows, where the angles match those of the gun ports, explaining the looks in the picture.

Posted (edited)

Cheers everyone, your kind comments are very nice and gives plenty inspiration!

 

Keith, I agree with Kriss that its the shadows. Im fairly sure all the gunport doors had lions, but the two small message ports didn't have lions however, I asked Fred Hocker about it earlier and I think I remember correctly.

 

Remember not to take the colors in the reference pics as gospel a I changed the contrast and lightning in some some of them with photoshop to bring out details.

 

Speaking of reference pics, here are a compilation of pics of an old friend of ours ;)

 

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/Matti

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I kind of figured that was the case. The shadows on the shroud chains aren't in parallax which indicates more then one light source. The combined light sourcing really makes that right gun port appear to have a relief though. Another trick of the Light.

 

I thought they had lions on all the ports, and one can see the wood colour difference on the inner port door where the lions appeared to have been. Especially on the 2 left ports under the channel. Its hard to believe that visible after all this time under water.

 

Here's a question since the question of lighting came up. All the pictures I've seen from the Wasan museum seem to be dimly lite. I was just curious as to the lighting they use in the museum. I know many older practices have had to be changed on relics as the light, humidity and other factors effect the preservation of the relic. For example the US declaration of independence is nearly completely bleached from sunlight exposure. I've also read that the high CO2 and humidity of visitors in the great pyramids was causing issues. I was just wondering if you knew anything about the constraints used at the museum to preserve her for future generations. that is other then the LONG bath and propping up due to her weight. I wonder if the museum is humidity controlled?

Posted

Those pictures certainly make it obvious as to it's identity Matti :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D .Looking at the pics,so much of the blue is actual structure and not carving.I personally think it looks like some sort of blue and gold mutant Catfish having a bad day.In the absence of historical evidence,I shall still view it as the 'blue thingy'.You do have something to work to though to replicate it.

Kind Regards Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

Posted

Keith: Yeah it is pretty low light in the museum and they have climate controle. Here is info from the museum page:

 

http://www.vasamuseet.se/en/Preservation--Research1/To-preserv-Vasa/Climate/

 

Vasa is slowly dying and they are building a construction to make her stronger and make her life longer.

 

Nigel, I just have to try and see if I can make the thingie. Ill start right away. ;)

 

 

/Matti

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Billing Boats Vasa

Posted

Interesting point Matti,I was reading one of the museum pages about the 3D computer model they created with laser mapping.She has twisted 8.5mm in the last ten years or so!Not good.

Kind Regards Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

Posted

The initial picture looks great B) Are you building the suspense up by a 'slow' reveal :D  :D ?Quite justifiable as this appears to be the most talked about carving on the ship ;)

Happy New Year to you and your family buddy

 

:champagne-popping-smiley-emotic  :champagne-popping-smiley-emotic

 

Kind Regards Nigel

Currently working on Royal Caroline

Posted (edited)

Cheers, yeah there is a face there.

 

A is some sort of blue monster/dragon.

The golden wings of it turns into B a face, a mascaron (perhaps Poseidon?) on its back. So looking from behind its a face.

C looks like two seamonsters side by side with the A monster.

 

I will try to make the red fins for C.

 

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/Matti

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Posted

i have just caught up on your log terrific work

Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on
 

All the best

Kevin :omg:


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Posted (edited)

Wonderfull film - thanks for sharing.Even though I don`t know Swedish the images speak for themselves.

 

Mark

Edited by marktiedens

current build - HMS Vanguard - Model Shipways

 

Posted (edited)

Yeah, the documentary is great Lawrence and Mark. If you missed part one, give it a look. The thingie is finished, and I'm working on the head boxes/toilets. I'll post pics later on.

 

Cheers

 

/Matti

 

PS, The DVD has English subtitles.

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Posted

Matti. Is there a DVD available? Where???

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

Posted

indeed very nice movies, I have seen these already before and my daughter then saved these movies on my laptop for later review.

only watching is already a pleasure.

If I could see he movie with English subtitles would be more perfect.

I assume this can be ordered by Amazon or equal webshops as I do not see a weborder possiblity at the museum shop

Jan V. 

current build: Vasa-1628 Corel / Battle Station Mantua/Panart,

previous: Statenjacht / Cross section HMS Victory / diorama shipyard

 

 

Posted

Well Amazon has one (and I mean "one unit") of a Vasa Documentary selling used at 127 dlls, and filmed in 1996. I don't think is the one linked here.

There aren't but two options: do it FAST, or do it RIGHT.

 

Current Project Build Log: Soleil Royal in 1/72. Kit by Artesania Latina.

Last finished projectsRoyal Ship Vasa 1628; French Vessel Royal Louis 1780. 1/90 Scale by Mamoli. 120 Cannons

 

Future projects already in my stash: Panart: San Felipe 1/75; OcCre: Santísima Trinidad 1/90;

Wish List: 1/64 Amati Victory, HMS Enterprise in 1/48 by CAF models.

 

So much to build, so little time!

 

 

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