Wasan 1628 by Nazgul - FINISHED - Billing Boats Vasa 1:75

[Salty Sea Dog]

The new signature pic is gorgeous! Nice eye candy!

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks Buck, glad you like it!

Hi Matti

Just checking in looking for an up date but it looks like I am a bit to early. Just for fun could you please translate, Enjoy.

Regards Lawrence

Working on the vertical planks below the beakhead. I'm trying to make my own construction so it takes a little time to work it out. I will also have to stain it and then weather it to make it uniform with the rest of the ship.

 

Sorry, I should have translated: Mike said jättebra (Very good) and I replied Tack så mycket (Thank you very much).

 

 

/Matti

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers Lawrence!

 

/Matti

[NAZGÛL]

Hey everyone! I finished the scratched parts mentioned earlier.

 

First pictures from the museum:

 

 

 

And how mine turned out:

 

 

The planks are stained with the same mix as the rest of the hull. Then lighter and darker washes to give it depht and make the planks slightly different from eachother. Finally drybrushing a little green and finally lightgray.

 

 

/Matti

[mobbsie]

I cant believe what I'm seeing here Matti, that's fantastic, very well done.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[NMBROOK]

I am with Mobbsie on this one Matti,the first picture is mind boggling!!Simply perfection.I will be interested when you get to to that stage,what techniques you employ to make the rigging look like rope.I would think of buying Chuck's rope or possibly a ropewalk.This model is simply beyond normal thread!Totally outstanding work mate!

 

Kind Regards Nigel

[Moonbug]

Beautiful work!

 

-Bug

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks mobbsie, Nigel and Bug!

 

I'm clueless when it comes to rigging and have to dig into whats what. Threads and fabric is all new to me. Good thing is that I'm pretty sure I know what look I want.

 

 

/Matti

[NMBROOK]

Are you thinking of going for sails Matti?I remember when I made the Mary Ann with my father many years ago,we made them with the Billing's cloth and coloured them by soaking in very weak tea.This worked really well

Kind Regards Nigel

[NAZGÛL]

Yeah, that's what I'd like, at least if I can get them realistic looking. I'll look into how you experienced folk do it. Frank's build has great looking sails so I'll try and see what he did.

 

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/133-hmat-supply-by-riverboat-jotikacaldercraft-164th-scale/page-9#

 

/Matti

Edited January 16, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[NAZGÛL]

Yeah, sails look great. I need to learn how to weather fabric and shape them nicely. I think it's easy to lose scale and realism with them.

 

/Matti

Edited January 17, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[NAZGÛL]

Hi, did some work on kranbalkarna. Also started on the front railing. BB based their railing on the Landström book, wich has a shield and is built straight. The original has no shield and is built with a curve. I will try to build mine like the original.

 

First reference I took at the museum:

 

 

 

And then my model. I dryfitted the railing base, so it sits a little out of position.

 

 

/Matti

[Nirvana]

Matti,

Very impressive!

You should talk to the curators at the museum, and let them know but also show them pictures of your build. You may be able to get a little more "specific and private tour".

Remembering back in the 70's when you were allowed to be onboard Wasa, walking on the true lower decks. But that's a long time ago.

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers! Yeah they are truly great at the museum. I'd love to enter the real ship, but it's only few who get that chance. Considering how hard it is to make her survive it's a good thing though.

 

 

/Matti

Edited January 20, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[Moonbug]

Nice work Matti.  I envy the opportunity to do a build where you have access to the real thing.

 

- Bug

[NAZGÛL]

Thanks Bug, it's nice to be able to look at the real thing. Both for inspiration but also to learn how these ships were constructed.

 

 

/Matti

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers Lawrence!, Painting sculptures again, but soon I will have painted all of them.

 

 

 

/Matti

[NMBROOK]

Great work buddy!!The prow area is coming together very nicely indeed.May I suggest some thin black card for your door hinges as anything thicker is going to spoil the magnificent scale fidelity you have attained throughout this build.

Kind Regards Nigel

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers mates! Lawrence, Ive started to try and read up how you guys do the rigging. 

 

Nigel, thanks for the advice! I know its incorrect but Ive grown found of the look of the doors on the 1:10 model and they are without hinges, so I will leave them out. I'm guessing the modelmakers didnt add them as they don't know how they looked, like the lantern perhaps.

 

/Matti

[mobbsie]

Hi Matte,

 

I take it the sculptures your working on are for the front rail, if so you have some very intricate work on your hands and I wish you the very best of luck with them.

 

With each new addition she becomes more impressive and a real pleasure to view. I hope you have as much pleasure working on her as we do watching her.

 

Be Good

 

mobbsie

[NMBROOK]

Hi Matti

I would be inclined to agree with you,studying your pictures of the original,there is insufficient evidence to even suggest whether they open in or out.Either way is possible,but either way is awkward due to the incline the hinges would be on.If they did open inward there would necessarily anything visible other than possible through bolting of the hinge plate from the inside.

 

Kind Regards Nigel

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers mobbsie! Ya its those sculptures. The painting is fun but  the challenge is to make the railing construction strong enough. I think it will work out once the sculptures are in place.

 

Nigel, I think they would open outwards.The hinges where on the outside; I'm pretty sure I remember Fred Hocker stating that.

 

 

 

/Matti

[marktiedens]

I noticed on a previous post you mentioned a shield on the front rail.My kit came with this casting.I painted it but never installed it.Still have not decided whether to put it on or just leave it off.Any opinions are welcome.Nice work by the way.

 

 

Mark

[NAZGÛL]

Yeah, I have that shield in my kit also. I think its another Landström heritage from how they guessed it would look in the eighties, before they had managed to reconstruct her. He also drew a straight railing.

 

Here is what Landströms says in his book (my translation):

 

"In paintings and drawings by de Welde Sr and Jr, there's often a heraldic shield in the mittle of "ballustraden" [...] In his instructions for the navy written in 1649, Herman Fleming writes: At the front there shall be a shield for a musket. It shall have two door from where you walk to the beakhead."

 

The Herman Fleming part is written in 1600 swedish so it's hard to understand if its a protection while shooting a musket, or if it should stand shots from a musket.

 

Landström then continues:

 

"We can imagine the crowned wasa shield held by two very young nereids (remember we have the face of one of them!) [...] The shield can open as a double door"

 

And here is how Landström imagined it would look:

 

 

 

/Matti

Edited January 25, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[NAZGÛL]

Hey all, I now finished the railing/balustrad.

 

There are some interesting differences between Landström, the 1:10 and the real ship. The Landström version is in the previous post.

 

Here is the 1:10 with likeness of the setup of the herms like Landström, 8 of them. Its also pretty straight and not very curved:

 

 

And here is the real ship with a different setup, leaving a space at the edges so the crew can walk there easyer. It also have spacers between the kranbalkarna/catheads and the railing. It has spacers and It's also very curved:

 

 

And finally here's my result. I tried to make my railing like the real ship. It didnt allow me to do the spacers though as it would have ended up way to high.

 

 

/Matti

 

Edit: Just checked the plans sold at the museum and that railing is also different to the above versions. It has ten herms and sits pretty tight.

Edited January 25, 2014 by NAZGÛL

[realworkingsailor]

Your photography really shows off the graceful curves of this vessel really well. And the rail you've built only adds to the overall effect. Nicely done!

 

Andy

[JanV]

Hi Matti,

 

can you share us that detail from the drawings

 

Thanks

[NAZGÛL]

Cheers Andy and Lawrence! Im getting cloe to have painted 300 sculptures. I guess it will end up around 350.

 

Jan, I'll take a picture of it later. Like I said, it looks likt the 1:10 oly with more herms sitting tighter. I think its best to look at the original to get the curve right.

 

 

/Matti

[newbuilder101]

Wow! All that detail is resulting in a beautiful ship!

[JanV]

At this time I will use the original as guide. thanks