Lanyard Dilemma

[JimInKY]

I'm working on a 1950's version of the Flying Fish.   The model instructions, and many post on this site suggests whipping it to the shroud, on the mast site.   My brother sent me photos of a ship what was in Boston Harbor last year.  The Lanyards are whipped to the lanyard, between the blocks.   Would you experts know if there is an accepted practice for a 1880's ship?  Thank you VERY much.

[barkeater]

Not an expert but I vote shroud. I don't remember ever having seen it whipped to the lanyard.

[russ]

Check out the photo of Ed's model of the Young America. He whipped the lanyards to the shrouds. I would think that would be the way to do it. Click on the link and scroll down the page to see photos. 

 

Russ

 

 

 

[BANYAN]

Hi Jim (assuming Jim?),

 

One of the best references for rigging ships in this period is Underhill "Masting and Rigging the Clipper Ship and Ocean carrier".

 

In this Underhill shows the dead-eyes turned in (the act of seizing the standing rigging round the outer score of the dead-eye).  For wire or natural cordage shrouds the tail is shown seized back onto the shroud; and, provides some drawings of how it was done.  As this book is in copyright I can't post pics etc here.

 

For reeving hearts, there were several ways and for these the tail of the lanyards were seized back on themselves.  These were sometimes used on some stays etc (especially on the bowsprit) but not usually the shrouds.  Perhaps this may the source of confusion?

 

cheers

 

Pat

[JerseyCity Frankie]

The ship in the color photo is the El Galion, a modern vessel with significant authenticity issues, in my opinion. I would caution anyone to second guess anything you find on that ship.

[Bob Cleek]

The end of the lanyard is secured around the shroud. What you are looking at in the picture is a very lubberly rigging job. Probably done by some farmer.

[JimInKY]

Thanks for all the comments!  They are appreciated.  It makes sense to finish them where they can be more easily reached and would allow them to be tightened, so I'll whip them up on the shroud... and it looks better than the "farmer's".    ;>)    Back to rigging...

[Captain Poison]

7 hours ago, JimInKY said:

I'm working on a 1950's version of the Flying Fish.   The model instructions, and many post on this site suggests whipping it to the shroud, on the mast site.   My brother sent me photos of a ship what was in Boston Harbor last year.  The Lanyards are whipped to the lanyard, between the blocks.   Would you experts know if there is an accepted practice for a 1880's ship?  Thank you VERY much.

If I'm not mistaken that is the galeon Andalucia, which I saw and is not 100% replica. The right way to do this is as shown in the picture.

Edited November 27, 2018 by Captain Poison