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Posted

I feel your pain........I have two boys........one is still at home.   but looky what you went and did............looks very nice!  :)  the sheen should calm down in a day or two........it needs to cure.   with a new deck,  it's going to look great!  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted (edited)

Hey Nenad ; 

 

I can understand what you feeling about your loss. Few years ago, I've learned that I need to protect my tools. During those days, when I need something, always found it in elsewhere. They were broken, warped, used on heavy duty work. From now, I draw a line line hard him between my tools. 

 

Kids ? Oh, no.. It's my DAD! :)

 

Cheers, Bugra.

Edited by Bugra

There is nothing that a little sanding can't solve.. Bugra.

 

Current Builds : 

H.M.S. Triton Cross Section by Bugra - 1/48

Turkish Traditional Ship - Surmene Takasi by Bugra - 1:35

 

Posted (edited)

As a first aid I bought chinese solderig iron for €3

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Bindy, just playing and learning. Yes, there is bright side - even he is almost enginieer, he like to do handworks with my tools. And he is learning too. And I was learning with somebody tools ... Of course, destroyed it .Not big dill - but - JUST TELL ME when you destroy something !!!!

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

It is told:

 

There are not little boys and little girls, and grown man and grown woman. There are only little woman and grown woman, and little boys and grown boys. 

 

Watching my daughter growing, and me and my son, there is so truth in that words...

 

Even in middle ages, we still like to play. Particulary when we have a new tool (= toy)

 

Waiting for a lunch, I played with new solder iron, talking myself that I am practicing and learning

 

Make some experiments how to heat my fingers ... Lesson learned: NEVER get iron with fingers !!!! It hurts !

 

And some other experiments how to make stanchions

 

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After trying different materials and technics, it seem I find acceptable solution ( on right side of picture)

 

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And my pride, accidentaly soldered little ring. Evin if I know how to repeat this ...

 

post-4738-0-90314500-1391950978_thumb.jpg

 

All made of cooper wire from thin telephone cable and one needle

 

There have to be and will be more practice

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Enough playing ... Started another inside bulwark tonight. Must first apply some putty, than "hidden" strip, and then slow cutting and glueing with short veneer thined pieces

 

2+4 working hours = enough for today

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

That's a nice looking ring Nenad, bravo!

 

Cheers,

Piet, The Flying Dutchman.

 

"Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends."  (old Chinese proverb)

 

Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942

                       VOC Ship Surabaya

 

Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000

 

Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi."  Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp,  Buginese fishing Prauw.  Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser.

 

Completed Builds:   Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine

                             Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands

                             Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner -

                             Friendship Sloop Gwenfra

                           Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack    

                             Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)

Posted

Stanchion tests are looking good, Nenad;  I'm still playing with my Al rivet strips and experimenting with cutting freeing port lids.  Hope to have some progress shortly...

 

Looking forward to seeing how your stanchions look with all your inner bulwark detail!

 

Bob

Posted (edited)

Little analyse about making and mounting stanchions

 

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In my scale, width of panel section ( pos b ) is 5mm

 

Visualy, width of nail holder is max about 1,5-2 mm ( pos a )

 

Comparing width of position (a) and width of stanchions (2) max thickness of wire is 0,5 mm

 

That means that position 3 - rings are about max 0,5 mm in outisde diameter. Just impossible to make for us mortails. On some positions, on photos, there is another movable ring throught the standing ring !!!!! But, rings are really nice touch and very nice detail, so they must be there in my opinion. So, they must be larger than a scale. I am not able to make smaller than 2-3 mm, and that will be only solution

 

And I want rings badly !

 

It seems that there is some little space in corner (cca 1mm) ??? And it is visually hidden 

 

And position 1 !!!!

 

It maltreat me roughly. I am able to solder this, but they are only 3-5 mm long, and I do not know to solder them without even a little parallel pieces of wire, and it reflects with double thickness of 1/3 stanchions lenght, and disgrace elegance of stanchions, so I gave up, and imagine they are not here on CS ... 

 

post-4738-0-06447700-1392021550_thumb.jpg

 

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

what you would need to do is solder two pieces of straight wire together at the proper angles and then trim to fit.   a jig might be helpful.

          as you get more familiar with it....I'm sure you'll figure it out   ;)   looking good Nenad....don't stop experimenting !

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

....I'm sure you'll figure it out   ;)   ...

 

Popeye, that`s exactly point  :( 

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Nenad, I experimented with the transverse member (position 1) and found out it was not worth the time and effort for me.  If you could find a "lattice" of the correct wire diameter, such as a screen, you might be able to cut T -shaped pieces out of it..

Posted (edited)

Lattice of wire 0,5 mm with 2x2cm fields ... in Belgrade ?

 

Dreams

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)
After "short" discussion with Hothead, that he can not drive his bike 30+30 km when outside temperature is 50C, and when he went to bus with grumble, just as I sat alone in the shipyard , sip some coffee , light a cigarette , said "hwosh" and began slicing veneer to continue, Admiral had his rare attack of wish to visit me in my kingdom when I'm working .... " Now that you 've got a new soldering iron , YOU SURE KNOW to fix my favourite broken silver necklace you gave me for *** birthday ." ( I dont remember when I bought this thing )

 

I was speechless , with a necklace on desktop ... It is not hard to make a fish in the water , so I put away shredding , took the iron and went to work . In addition to color changes a little at the place of repair ( fake silver - plated copper ! ) , I did it mostly successfully , and Admiral starts purring like a kitten ....  

 

Another law of ship modeling: If you want a new tool, first think about use of it for Admiral needs

 

Of course , instead of returning back to veneer , I continued to play where I left off yesterday (pardon , to practice soldering )

 

And here are the results : 1:0 for me, and 1:0 for failure. Right stanchion has too big primary ring. 

 

post-4738-0-98371100-1392062322_thumb.jpg

 

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I think it is what it have to be, almost in scale,  with a little more future care and patience . The white color is placed only tentatively , and rails are improvisation from the scrapbox , for a total of visualization

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

never a dull moment.........eh,  Nenad :D :D     your on a positive track.......it's all good!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

Nenad;  How are you forming your stanchion rings?  I twisted mine around a drill bit and pulled taut with two pairs of pliers.  This seemed to form a consistent ring.  Looking good so far;  eager to see more....

 

Bob

Posted

How are you forming your stanchion rings?  

 

Bob

 

I have seen some tutorial and get ideas. In further experiment, I ll try with less diameterer

 

In draft hand drawing, this is it

 

post-4738-0-79400000-1392107303_thumb.jpg

 

post-4738-0-28495800-1392107302_thumb.jpg

 

PS, we are actually shipochollics. Sitting in office, we are on MSW , not on day jobs ...

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

Veneer slices slices slices .... And Led Zeppelin in background ... with Hibiscus tea. Two working hours and moved only 10 cm on another inside bulwark ...

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Come home late and find Hothead in workshop making something for his music studio with my tools from 4mm plywood. Shock defender for microphone or something... Something like this by his own drawings ... all made by hand carving saw ( He burned my Einchell )

 

post-4738-0-19247000-1392277540.jpg

 

post-4738-0-17963800-1392278064_thumb.jpg

 

Proud daddy about his inexperienced but very precise hands... 

 

She sit still, silenced in her dry dock in Her cabinet above, with hope not to be seen ...

I intend, but It was too late to remember him to some quotes from movies

THIS WORKBENCH IS NOT BIG ENOUGH FOR TWO OF US

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

Maybe ... he will be interested one day in wood ship works ... Very precise fingers until he was born.

 

First time he use hand tools and cut ring from 4 mm plywood thick 5 mm with 20 cm in diameter from one piece with perfect rounded edges ... and whole thing is not broken ...

 

Of course, daddy was happy to help him in most difficult little parts of his construction 

 

:D 

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

Still helping to Hothead in his efforts, with sad looks toward Her Majesty

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted (edited)

My name is not Nenad. My name is Christopher Columbus II

 

Yesterday I discovered America. Trough world you must walk with eyes wide open

 

Searching on Internet for different type of wires for stanchions, I accidentally strayed to some web pages with materials and tools for making imitation jewelry and other designated to "woman(?)" hobby. I am not sexist. Yesterday I was looking at some very good clips on Youtube with instructions for soldering where ladies teach us how to solder silver jewlery, and learned a lot. Also I am delighted seeing ladies on MSW. 

 

Wow. really WOW

 

Different type of wires, all thickness, all colours, different materials ( Cu, Ag, ....) for less than 1€ for 100m, chains with different thickness, tools for pulling thread through small holes, tweezers all kind of, all type of needles useful for making something by soldering, etc etc etc .....

 

Plastic little parts, glass little parts, brass cooper silver little parts, wooden little parts, acrylic colours in enormous variety, paintbrushs ... so many to describe all 

 

Never cross my mind to look there

 

Must go viewing shop windows 

 

Also I must try making stanchions from old guitar E1 string (banged my mind yesterday)

 

Obviously, day of discoveries 

 

PS

 

Finally repaired my Einhell set for 8€. To reject the Hothead of pocket money ?

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

ahhhhhh....another person to see a jewelry dept in a different light.... :D :D :D :D   I have found the jewelry dept to be a good place to find eye bolts,  eyelets and things that can be fashioned into bracketing and such.   there are also inlays and intricate stuff that works well for decorations.    the bead dept is also a good place.

 

you perhaps should charge him.........but I wouldn't..............................................a lesson learned once,  is a lesson well learned  ;)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted (edited)

Popeye you are right as usuall. VERY VERY well learned lesson. We did together some stuff tonight and he is like kitten 195 cm high

 

I bought today 0,8 mm jewelery steel wire, and do some experiments, to try different technical and visual approach. Tried and successed to solder primary ring direct to stanchion. It looks good. I am too blind for smaller rings + do not know to make them 

 

Also decided to leave solution with two rings. They are even small, and second ring will not be visible as ring, rather as a crumpled wire

 

It seems that most in scale will be steel wire and 2mm ring of cooper wire 

 

post-4738-0-32341300-1392418468_thumb.jpg

 

post-4738-0-67139900-1392418470_thumb.jpg

Edited by Nenad M

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

I see a direction forming here...........excellent!  your tests are looking very good......I wish you well in coming up with the finished product  :)

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted

It is february. It have to be snow with -5 to -10 C. Outside is 18 C and beautifull "spring" day, with sun that pull you outside from shipyard ... :(

In progress:

CUTTY SARK - Tehnodidakta => scratch => Campbell plans

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-1#entry64653

Content of log :

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2501-cutty-sark-by-nenad-tehnodidakta-scratched-campbells-plans/page-62#entry217381

Past build:

Stella, Heller kit, plastic, Santa Maria, Tehnodidakta kit, wood, Jolly Roger Heller kit, plastic

Posted

It is february. It have to be snow with -5 to -10 C. Outside is 18 C and beautifull "spring" day, with sun that pull you outside from shipyard ... :(

Even in Sotsji they don't have enough snow! And in Britain they have too much water. Everything is in disorder... :huh:

 

Lou

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