Glory of the Seas 1869 by Vladimir_Wairoa - FINISHED - 1:72 - medium clipper

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

4 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Vlad...is that printed on the wood?  the caulking seams and treenails are extremely neat and clean...for sucha grainy wood?

 

Rob

Rob, yes its deep printed on 0.2 mm oak veneer, underglued with thin protective foil. Its what i used fór 1/96 cutty sark. I Will have to cut off ofv these so i Will see how IT goes....

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

1 hour ago, ClipperFan said:

Vladimir, what you've illustrated would be correct, as far as I can tell. All flat surfaces would have been pearl and all raised ones would have been white. There had to be enough of a difference in contrast to justify the added investment. Donald McKay's Clippers and even his Packets were all renowned for their top of the line quality, both of craftsmanship and ship's fittings. After all, Donald McKay was the main American contributor to the British James Baines Line, supplying 4 principal vessels to his franchise. 

Before British Regulars embarked to India to suppress a revolt, Queen Victoria paid a Royal visit to the vessels "James Baines" and "Champion of the Seas." She's known to have marveled that the British Empire had such magnificent vessels.

Thanks Rich, tomorrow IS the day

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Moment od Truth. 

Im  forever apprentice in this business. Painting mg IS my nightmare...

Will only highlight everything. Glue, sandingscrapes,  holes , etc..This IS as far as i was able to to...used fiebing  dye made  in USA and i mušt say this Will be my only thing from now. 

Im becoming more critical to my work so i dont like visible imperfections. But I built her with speed & those corections  in mind...fillers of holes etc...

I like very deep mat black with tiny touch of Satin to give IT a little Spark. 

Thanks for viewing ,any comment etc....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
add

[rwiederrich]

Beautifully done. Nice sheen.   She is a true replica.

 

Great job Vlad.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

12 minutes ago, rwiederrich said:

Beautifully done. Nice sheen.   She is a true replica.

 

Great job Vlad.

 

Rob

Thank you Rob. im glad it apeals. im cautious of painting as its easiest way how to ruin it all....learnt from experience.

[Snug Harbor Johnny]

  'Just love they way you've used scale second planking, as it 'telegraphs' nicely through the paint - just like on the prototype.  I think it is a very nice look, and it doesn't matter if it get 'weathered' or not - it will look great either way !   Johnny

[ClipperFan]

Vladimir, again, just like Rob, it's uncanny how much your miniature ship matches scenes of the actual vessel herself. Simply beautiful. 

Beautifully done work!

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Few photos of painted glory. ...

I couldnt paint bulwarks pearl as i would ruín IT. So u leaved monkey rail pearl only. I like the single contrast. Its probably a bit on beige side but color dried stronger than wet  mix.  Painting already assembled pieces IS recipe fór disaster  or pain. So much pain. I did my hardest to Keep IT clean

building Up multiple thin layers...apology fór many pics i tried to see various overall feel and details ...still some places to finish...i still see some uneven blotches inside bulwarlks between columns... its very difficult to get brush inthere...hopefully one aldt coat there....

Thanks for any input etc...V. 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
Add

[rwiederrich]

Fantastic job your paint work is spot on it’s beautiful, took a lot of time I’m sure, steady hands.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

7 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Fantastic job your paint work is spot on it’s beautiful, took a lot of time I’m sure, steady hands.

 

Rob

Thanks Rob, exactly as you wrote. its was reall slog, impossible to cover by tapes, just slow and precise brush strokes..im so glad its over . 3 days. 3 more greish hair on my head :)) 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Hello. I Made false deck & masts holders & started navalhoods and co. In reality its in scale small even fór laser cut so I abandoned idea and painted IT around template. 

Only started yet...thank you fór viewing etc...

 

 

 

 

Edited September 3, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
Add

[rwiederrich]

Great job Vlad...but I hate to point out this but the trim on the hood is double lobe on the top and triple lobe on the bottom. The top trim matches the trim of the plankshear.

 

Love your sub-deck work..wonderful.

 

Rob

Edited September 3, 2021 by rwiederrich

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

2 hours ago, rwiederrich said:

Great job Vlad...but I hate to point out this but the trim on the hood is double lobe on the top and triple lobe on the bottom. The top trim matches the trim of the plankshear.

 

Love your sub-deck work..wonderful.

 

Rob

 thanks Rob. hell  i knew someone will catch that !  great observation. lets see if i can squeeze 3 grooves in bottom mold on stbd side. 

[ClipperFan]

On 9/3/2021 at 5:47 PM, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

 thanks Rob. hell  i knew someone will catch that !  great observation. lets see if i can squeeze 3 grooves in bottom mold on stbd side. 

Vladimir, first, I love the selection of pearl you chose. It offsets the white very nicely. Just remember all flat areas are supposed to be pearl and raised surfaces white. The decking subflooring, like Rob already said is perfect. I'm sure it will look amazing when the deck overlay is added. 

The printed carved Naval Hoods and Carved Arch look really sharp too. I can't wait to see these areas gilded, it's going to be stunning. If it helps, the double molding at top is slightly thinner than the triple ones below. To make it interesting, the upper two moldings themselves are slightly thicker. Meanwhile all three lower ones are skinnier. The 1911 starboard bow scene shows this area perfectly. Good luck!

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

On 9/5/2021 at 9:41 PM, ClipperFan said:

Vladimir, first, I love the selection of pearl you chose. It offsets the white very nicely. Just remember all flat areas are supposed to be pearl and raised surfaces white. The decking subflooring, like Rob already said is perfect. I'm sure it will look amazing when the deck overlay is added. 

The printed carved Naval Hoods and Carved Arch look really sharp too. I can't wait to see these areas gilded, it's going to be stunning. If it helps, the double molding at top is slightly thinner than the triple ones below. To make it interesting, the upper two moldings themselves are slightly thicker. Meanwhile all three lower ones are skinnier. The 1911 starboard bow scene shows this area perfectly. Good luck!

Thanks Rich, All notes its stillwork in progress so its not final look yet. V. 

 

 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Good day. 

Some progress still going  on ornamentals as I had to order and wait for thinnest brush available, 000. Its hair point. I think i finally found satisfactory way (ať least fór me how to tackle the thing. What do You say? I dont have firmest hand in the world though...

I Will add third mold strake below. Thick substance of golden color Made IT stand out from black surface. 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
add

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Some golden glow ..😃

 

 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
Add

[rwiederrich]

Sweet....You made the transfers work....Wonderful!

 

You're doing a bag-up job Vlad...great work. 

The hardest part for me was making sure the end of the hood had a nice roll to it as it entered the hull and terminated....I rolled the brass around a small dowel to form it.   Those hoods were not easy...to make with all their weird angles and curves.  You did great.

 

I love the progress updates.

 

Rob

Edited September 7, 2021 by rwiederrich

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

1 hour ago, rwiederrich said:

Sweet....You made the transfers work....Wonderful!

 

You're doing a bag-up job Vlad...great work. 

The hardest part for me was making sure the end of the hood had a nice roll to it as it entered the hull and terminated....I rolled the brass around a small dowel to form it.   Those hoods were not easy...to make with all their weird angles and curves.  You did great.

 

I love the progress updates.

 

Rob

thank you Apreciated Rob. you know it. exactly my thoughts. looks easy but it was pretty difficult as there is everything twisted in angles or around axis...  

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Ornamentation IS now completed with nameboard. I Wish you could see it in person as 2d photo cannot grasp 3d reality of ship itself with those tiny details. Name itself IS so tiny in reality i tried to maintain size and position of letters. Ať this point i must say even i used printed template underneath im happier with hand drawing over IT far more than any laser cut could provide-  there IS machine perfection in machines but i prefer Human effort ať least mediocre. Its like in every aspect of even real houses  whatever builders - mass produced perfect shapes are standard set to the point being charmless - no one Will ever asking who Made this or that? I notice similar approach or trend in modelmaking AS Well , where machine perfection IS praised atop. Personally i refrain lately  from this approach, IT ls nothing easier than drawing ship or ornamental something  in Vector program and give command to laser machine -  - i Can say that confidently. Its very difficult hand model something as old chaps did in bygone éra masterfully...

 With template underneath Its truer to original approach as well   this IS as close AS possible to original pattern even in this still small scale for clipper. some of those draperies are hair thin. !  This IS probably my finest modeler effort by far. Im satisfied with this . 

Thanks for viewing etc. V. 

Edited September 8, 2021 by Vladimir_Wairoa
Add

[rwiederrich]

Those nameboards are fantastic Vlad..........

 

Great job!

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

1 hour ago, rwiederrich said:

Those nameboards are fantastic Vlad..........

 

Great job!

 

Rob

Im glad you approve  Rob, means a lot to me. 

[rwiederrich]

9 hours ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Im glad you approve  Rob, means a lot to me. 

I’m like you, hand work carries a “feeling” that laser machine work can never replicate.  
 

Rob

[ClipperFan]

Vladimir, truly beautiful work with extremely delicate hand carving and painting. I especially like Glory's nameboard lettering which is highly accurate for scale. You and Rob are doing an incredible job bringing Glory's true, unique beauty to life. 

 

A concern about notifications that I have Vlad is that while I get notified when Rob posts new activity. I don't for you. Is there a setting I need to do in order to receive them?

[ClipperFan]

Vladimir, I have a couple helpful hints about your Glory Bow. There needs to be a thin rope line at the base of the carved arch decoration on the Cutwater. You don't need to replicate rope winding, it's too tiny to see but if you look closely at the Port side image of Glory's Figurehead, the rope winding is clearly visible. At her launch, this was definitely gold leaf embossed too, as the 1869 Glory fitting out scene confirms. I see you made the bottom molding of her Naval Hood into a triple one. Great work. Now the upper molding should actually be doubled not tripled, which can be clearly viewed in the 1911 Starboard close up of Glory's Bow and Figurehead. Probably only niggling detail observers like myself will notice such a detail. Finally the oak leaf clusters which are on each end of Glory's name board were also originally gold leaf embossed, which can also be seen in the highly reflective nature of these elements in the 1869 fitting out scene. 

You're doing excellent high quality work which is reflective in how much your Hull continuously matches scenes of the full sized vessel.

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

9 hours ago, ClipperFan said:

Vladimir, I have a couple helpful hints about your Glory Bow. There needs to be a thin rope line at the base of the carved arch decoration on the Cutwater. You don't need to replicate rope winding, it's too tiny to see but if you look closely at the Port side image of Glory's Figurehead, the rope winding is clearly visible. At her launch, this was definitely gold leaf embossed too, as the 1869 Glory fitting out scene confirms. I see you made the bottom molding of her Naval Hood into a triple one. Great work. Now the upper molding should actually be doubled not tripled, which can be clearly viewed in the 1911 Starboard close up of Glory's Bow and Figurehead. Probably only niggling detail observers like myself will notice such a detail. Finally the oak leaf clusters which are on each end of Glory's name board were also originally gold leaf embossed, which can also be seen in the highly reflective nature of these elements in the 1869 fitting out scene. 

You're doing excellent high quality work which is reflective in how much your Hull continuously matches scenes of the full sized vessel.

Thanks a lot for vlauable comment Rich. I Will adresa those indeed. 

Mli Dunno maybe try click follow and it will púť you notifications...:) 

V. 

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Carriage house face progress...

 

 

[ClipperFan]

1 hour ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Thanks a lot for vlauable comment Rich. I Will adresa those indeed. 

Mli Dunno maybe try click follow and it will púť you notifications...:) 

V. 

Vladimir I followed your instructions and it worked! I now get your progress notifications. Thanks!

[ClipperFan]

1 hour ago, Vladimir_Wairoa said:

Carriage house face progress...

 

 

Vladimir, I really hate to say this because you're doing such a beautiful job recreating my drawing but you might was to pause on this section.

Mike just shared his front fascia reconstruction and it differs from mine in the interpretation of the area in the dark that I couldn't see. His drawing also includes an area I missed, which is the end piece for the fancy scrollwork on each end. As soon as I get a chance, I'll take a pic of the pdf file and share it with you.

[rwiederrich]

Wonderful indeed Vlad...just wonderful.  there is so much paneling that you really have to pay attention.  Not to mention the tiny work involved.

My facing will be about half that size....I'm tackling all the inner paneling issues first...corners around windows....under eaves...stuff like that.

 

And i have to ask myself...*How detailed do i need to go..since most of that detail will be lost once the mast, yards and rigging block any real view of it....not to mention the boat skid (With boats on it) and gang that will be directly over and in front of it.🤥

 

In smaller scales(even larger ones at times), some details can truly be forgone because there is just no way anyone will truly enjoy that detail because it is basically inaccessible.

 

What hill is one willing to die on.......

 

Sometimes some items are very difficult to scale properly...either because surrounding items force it out of scale because of their own issues, or because construction wasn't exact and slight alterations are necessary to make the entire piece work.

 

Good job Vlad

 

Rob