Toolman Posted October 4, 2021 Share #1 Posted October 4, 2021 I'm getting ready to build the MS Bluenose. I'm thinking of replacing the strip wood used for the deck furniture with either,boxwood,swiss pear or Alaska yellow cedar. Which would be my best choice? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. thibaultron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted October 4, 2021 Share #2 Posted October 4, 2021 Toolman I believe these items were painted white on Bluenose II and Bluenose 1921, so the woods you mention are not really necessary except for the tops of the houses and entryways. If you want to have a light color though and no paint on the sides, good quality holly is a good choice. For the top of the houses I think any of these "wood" work. Look at photos of BNII for an idea of what they did, there are dozens of them to study. Not sure there are any color photos of BN1921. The below photo of BNII may help you. Note that the tops appear to be the same color as the deck planking, but I have no idea if it would be the same for BN1921. Allan thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolman Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share #3 Posted October 4, 2021 Thankyou Allenyed. I was more looking at the fact that some of those woods would hold better contoured edges and take shaping better on the trim work of the deck furniture rather than the supplied wood in the kit. Thankyou again for you quick response. Have a great day. mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahka_est Posted October 4, 2021 Share #4 Posted October 4, 2021 All those hold edge good when done properly. Ayc is easist to shape from those 3 i would say. All those spices are offered by Modellers sawmill. Not sure about postage cost in US but maybe they can provide you with some samples if you ask and pay for postage. Its best just to try them i would say. Vahur Hobbymill.EU thibaultron and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 4, 2021 Share #5 Posted October 4, 2021 Yellow cedara and pear are great woods for overall modeling, however boxwood, more expensive, is better for smaller details like deck furniture. mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted October 4, 2021 Share #6 Posted October 4, 2021 I agree with Vahur, they are all good for your purposes, but I have a preference for European boxwood (Buxus sempervirens) if it can be found, then a second choice would be Castelo (Calycophyllum multiflorum), which some people call South American boxwood. The latter is far easier to find, but you might get lucky to find some Buxus logs as I have seen a few ads in the past month or two. Allan mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolman Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted October 4, 2021 Thankyou all for you responses. Advice well taken. mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glbarlow Posted October 4, 2021 Share #8 Posted October 4, 2021 The Modeler's Sawmill at http://www.modelerssawmill.com/ will have what you need and is a great resource for modelers. mtaylor, Captain Poison, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Glenn Current Build: Don't know yet. Completed Builds: HMS Winchelsea HM Flirt (paused) HM Cutter Cheerful, Lady Nelson, Amati HMS Vanguard, HMS Pegasus, Fair American, HM Granado, HM Pickle, AVS, Pride of Baltimore, Bluenose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted October 4, 2021 Share #9 Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) If there is a WoodCraft close to you, they have packages of Hard Maple veneer and Black Cherry veneer. They are sheets, but a knife and straight edge can turn it into strip wood. Maple is close to the color of the species of Pine used urr decking and roofs. AYC is soft - but it holds an edge well and the fibers do not roll. There is no observable grain. Pear and Castelo are very hard and also have no observable grain. Any of the five species will work as frame timbers, deck beams, keels and everything else making up a hull. Three that you ask about are also excellent for decorative carving. Working any of them - the danger is: it will spoil you and you will not be satisfied with any of the cheap crap supplied with most mass market kits. It could also seriously infect you with the scratch build bug. Edited October 4, 2021 by Jaager mtaylor and thibaultron 2 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolman Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted October 4, 2021 Thankyou,Jager. Yes, I'm am sure I will be spoiled. Thank you for your input. thibaultron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaager Posted October 4, 2021 Share #11 Posted October 4, 2021 I just remembered = About the veneer. Saw sliced is as good as any other stock. But because sawing also involves significant loss to kerf, the budget version of veneer is blade sliced. There is no loss the kerf, but the wood comes off like pulling on a roll of Bounty. This is unnatural for the wood grain and it always "wants" to return to the curled shape. It will fight with the glue holding it down forever. thibaultron and mtaylor 1 1 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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