Name the Ship Game

[realworkingsailor]

Definetly a Flower class..

 

Wonder which of the 267 it is.....

 

Do we start alphabetically...

 

Andy

[amateur]

Flower-corvette for sure, but why this one should be easy is not clear to me.....

 

Ja

[Beef Wellington]

Pretty sure its HMS Balsam, but Andy should be the winner by identifying the class as there are really no differentiating markings/features.

[molasses]

This photo is associated with at least two different ships of the near 300 members (in two groups) of the Flower-class corvettes built just before and during WW2. This photo is most often associated with HMS Balsam, a member of the group of Modified Flower-class (69 vessels) ordered by Great Britain in and after 1940. The exact count of the number built is somewhat difficult to pin down because they were built in British, French, Canadian and US shipyards and they served in all four navies and in the navies of six more allies. Many were freely swapped between the USN, Royal Navy and Royal Canadian Navy under lend-lease agreements. Some Canadian built ships served in US waters with USCG crews in preparation for US entry in the war. Four were captured by the Nazis on the ways in France and three of these were completed and served in the Kriegsmarine. Those that served in the US Navy are known as Temptress- and Action-class gunboats. The Flower-class accounted for fully half of the convoy escort vessels deployed in the North Atlantic during WW2. HMCS Sackville is the only one of the class preserved as a museum ship.

 

One source says 267 were built but in the same article says 225 in the early group and 69 in the modified group (294 total). Also, do the 3 completed by the Nazis count?

 

Anyway, David's mention of Flower-class was first. It's up to SpyGlass.

[Beef Wellington]

Woops...I meant David, not Andy...my mistake...

[Captain Slog]

I have to say every time I am reminded of the Flower class ships I think to myself “What on earth were the Royal Navy thinking of, calling machines of war after flowers!?”

 

Nothing must strike as much fear into the enemy knowing they are engaging Buttercup, Tulip, Marigold and Dandelion (okay I made the last one up...I think).  Would the enemy refer to a group of Flower class corvettes as a posy instead of fleet?

 

Its not that they can’t come up with decent names when you get Tiger, Lion, Thunderer,  Invincible, Indomitable etc. They conjure up notions of strength, power, awesomeness and general bring it on attitudes.

 

I think the RN should have approached the aircraft naming guy who did Spitfire, Typhoon, Hurricane, Tempest, Marauder etc to see if he was willing to do a bit of moonlighting for the RN.  Pay him in casks of rum or something.

 

Disclaimer: This was meant to be tongue in cheek and was no way intended to be disrespectful to the brave men who served on these vessels and the important role they played during terrible times...but I do still think “What the...?”

 

Cheers

Slog

[st george]

Next up from me.

Good Luck.

 

[Captain Slog]

Is it,

 

HMS Prince George?

 

Cheers

Slog

[st george]

Very close Slog. In the same class though.

[Captain Slog]

HMS Majestic, lead ship of the Majestic Class pre-dreadnoughts.

 

Slog

[st george]

I'll give it to you Slog.

It is actually HMS Victorious, one of the nine Majestic Class pre-dreadnoughts.
Victorious served in the Mediterranean Fleet 1897–1898 and 1900–1903, on the China Station 1898–1900, in the Channel Fleet and Atlantic Fleet 1904–1906, and the Home Fleet 1907–1914. She served as a guard ship on the British coast in 1914 and early 1915. She then served as a disarmed repair ship at Scapa Flow 1916–1920, after which she was renamed Indus II before being scrapped in 1923.

[Captain Slog]

Thanks David, I was hoping I didn't have to run through them all.

 

This one could be one of many, but its a bit special and any 1 of 3 names is acceptable.

 

 

Cheers

Slog

 

 

 

[amateur]

She's a destroyer, but I guess that's not enough for you

Jan

[Captain Slog]

Indeed it is, but this one is quite unique.

 

A clue; it confused German intelligence who didn't know it existed.

 

Slog

[amateur]

OK, narrowing down: Tribal class?

 

Jan

[Captain Slog]

Sure is

[st george]

HMS Cossak

[amateur]

Two or three names?

 

Jan

[Captain Slog]

Sorry not Cossack.

 

There were 12 Tribal Class Destroyers built (or were there  might be another)

[amateur]

But part(s) of them were destroyed

Edited July 29, 2014 by amateur

[Captain Slog]

Very true Jan,

 

I do believe you have figured it out.

[Captain Slog]

Okay time to get the game moving again I think.

 

Last clue will definitely give it away.

 

What do you do when you have 2 tribal class destroyers, one with a torpedo damaged bow and one with a mine damaged stern, to get the one in the picture?

 

Cheers

Slog

[jud]

The destroyer that hit us in 1960 was repaired by using the bow from an identical but uncompleted WW2 destroyer towed to Long Beach from Seattle. Cut the bows off of both at the same frame and used the good bow on the Collett DD 730, don't know what was done with the donor destroyer. Common practice around the world to use undamaged sections to replace damaged sections of ships. Usually only done with naval ships because they have the trained crew in large enough numbers to save their damaged ships.

jud

Edited August 2, 2014 by jud

[Werik]

What to do, what to do... I'll wait on Jan. I think he's had it all along, just hasn't posted the name. Hope the game isn't dead.

[Menno]

This one?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribal-class_destroyer_(1905)

 

Following the damage to Nubian and Zulu in October 1916, it was proposed on 8 November 1916 that the two undamaged 'ends' might be joined together, which was completed at Chatham Royal Dockyard 7 June 1917 by joining the undamaged fore section of Zulu and the rear section of Nubian respectively. The resulting destroyer was commissioned on 7 June 1917 as Zubian, which was sold for scrapping 1919.

 

But I think Jan should get the credits for this turn.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Zubian

Edited August 2, 2014 by Menno

[Captain Slog]

It is indeed Zubian

 

HMS Zubian was a First World War Royal Navy Tribal-class destroyer constructed from the forward end of HMS Zulu and the rear and mid sections of HMS Nubian. These two destroyers had been badly damaged in late 1916, and rather than scrapping both hulls at the height of World War I, the Admiralty ordered that they be rebuilt as the compositeZubian and put back into service. She was commissioned into the fleet in June 1917. The name Zubian is a portmanteau of the names of the original ships.

 

In late 1916, two British destroyers of the 6th Flotilla in the Dover Patrol—Nubian and Zulu—were badly damaged by German attacks in the English Channel. Nubian's bow had been destroyed by a torpedo from a German torpedo boat on 26 October 1916. Zulu had her stern blown off by a mine in the Channel on 8 November 1916, and was towed to Calais. Both wrecks were then towed to Chatham Dockyard, where a complete destroyer was constructed by joining the foreparts of Zulu with the stern of Nubian,^[3] and despite a 3.5 inches (89 mm) difference in beam,^[2] the unique operation was successful.

 

I am happy for anyone to go up next, appears everyone was on to it but holding off for Jan.

[Beef Wellington]

Is anyone there to post next ship?

[Werik]

Been wondering the same thing. Been waiting on Jan since he appears to have guessed the last one.

[Werik]

Everybody's on vacation.    

[Captain Slog]

I suggest Werik posts the next one.  Based on Weriks post #3082 I assumed he had it but was holding off out of courtesy to Jan. 

 

I think just go for it Werik !

 

Slog