HIPEXEC Posted March 12, 2015 Author #1651 Posted March 12, 2015 I've just finished installing the anchors. Jack12477, usedtosail, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
GLakie Posted March 12, 2015 #1652 Posted March 12, 2015 It's getting better and better with every pic Rich! Nice job! HIPEXEC 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
robnbill Posted March 12, 2015 #1653 Posted March 12, 2015 Rich, this is looking great. Why did you choose to use the chain as an anchor bower? HIPEXEC and GLakie 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
GLakie Posted March 12, 2015 #1654 Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Bill: I believe the anchors at the bow are called "bower anchors" themselves, and the term I think you're looking for is "anchor rode" From what I've read, chain was used as well as cable rope, for the "rode", leaving it to the captain to decide which. Edited March 12, 2015 by GLakie HIPEXEC 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
robnbill Posted March 13, 2015 #1655 Posted March 13, 2015 Sorry, I meant to saw hawser, not bower. The reason I ask was the Connie was not fitted for chain until probably the 1850's. The switchover from hemp to chain required a huge change to the ship including the addition of iron hawse pipes as well as chain lockers etc. The Capstan also had to be modified to handle the chain links. Anyway, she certainly has chain now. One reason she still does is the inordinate expense to modify the ship back. There is an interesting article on this at the Museum site. The link is below. http://156.112.98.23/USSCTour/manuals/ConstitutionAnchorChain.pdf GLakie 1 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
GLakie Posted March 13, 2015 #1656 Posted March 13, 2015 Well, I failed to also mention it was a period thing, with the chain coming later, but with Constructo's version, I think the focus is the over-all ornate beauty of the ship, being unpainted and with light and dark wood designed for aesthetics, rather than historical accuracy. HIPEXEC and Jack12477 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
robnbill Posted March 13, 2015 #1657 Posted March 13, 2015 It is a beauty. GLakie and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
GLakie Posted March 13, 2015 #1658 Posted March 13, 2015 Yeah---You gotta love the natural wood look on her. Jack12477, augie and HIPEXEC 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
HIPEXEC Posted March 13, 2015 Author #1659 Posted March 13, 2015 Rich, this is looking great. Why did you choose to use the chain as an anchor bower? The chain is prettier than plain rope. Besides, a hank of chain helps set the anchor. GuntherMT and GLakie 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
HIPEXEC Posted March 13, 2015 Author #1660 Posted March 13, 2015 It is a beauty. Bill, Can you shoot some pics of how you hung coiled lines to your belaying pins? I did what you suggested and ran the lines through the pin holes then re-inserted the pins. Now I want to give the impression of neat coiled lines hanging from each pin. GLakie and Jack12477 2 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
robnbill Posted March 13, 2015 #1661 Posted March 13, 2015 Here you are. With only a couple of exceptions, I only placed coils where I had rope terminating on the pin rail. The exceptions were on the stern fife rail where I had some open space that I thought needed to be filled. I did not attempt to add enough coils to actually run a line, I also did not want to cover the ship in coils, and I wanted the coils to be similar but not too so. Of course I made all the coils off the ship. I used the Beeswax/Turpentine mixture to wet them. I wound the requisite number of coils around a dowel then gently pulled it off and shaped it. I made sure that as I shaped the final loop going over the pin, I hid the other end since theoretically the other end was supposed to be up in the rigging somewhere. Then it was a matter of touching glue to the pin area and lowering the loop over the pin head and shaping how it hung. I did have to use some additional glue behind some of the coils to get them to hang just right. GLakie, HIPEXEC, dgbot and 3 others 6 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
HIPEXEC Posted March 13, 2015 Author #1662 Posted March 13, 2015 Here you are. With only a couple of exceptions, I only placed coils where I had rope terminating on the pin rail. The exceptions were on the stern fife rail where I had some open space that I thought needed to be filled. I did not attempt to add enough coils to actually run a line, I also did not want to cover the ship in coils, and I wanted the coils to be similar but not too so. Of course I made all the coils off the ship. I used the Beeswax/Turpentine mixture to wet them. I wound the requisite number of coils around a dowel then gently pulled it off and shaped it. I made sure that as I shaped the final loop going over the pin, I hid the other end since theoretically the other end was supposed to be up in the rigging somewhere. Then it was a matter of touching glue to the pin area and lowering the loop over the pin head and shaping how it hung. I did have to use some additional glue behind some of the coils to get them to hang just right. Thank you very much! This really helps me. GLakie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
robnbill Posted March 13, 2015 #1663 Posted March 13, 2015 One other thing that I would do, is after I hung a coil, I would take something, usually the point of my tweezers, and would place it in the lower part of the coil and tension it downward. This allowed me to make sure the loop was seated well over the pin, and I could adjust the hang and final shape of the coil. It is after this that I would decide if I needed to place any additional glue behind the coil to hold it in the correct position. The vast majority of the coils were hung without needing any additional glue. Since all of the coils were glued initially just at the pin, it was pretty simple to swing a coil up with tweezers and apply any additional glue to the back of the coil, then use the tweezers to push it down into the position I wanted it to stay. HIPEXEC, usedtosail, GLakie and 1 other 4 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
HIPEXEC Posted March 14, 2015 Author #1664 Posted March 14, 2015 I was measuring the ship for a case when I got this bird's eye view of her and took these pictures. captainbob, Sjors, texxn5 and 10 others 13 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
Jack12477 Posted March 14, 2015 #1665 Posted March 14, 2015 Nice shot ! texxn5, HIPEXEC and GLakie 3 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
GLakie Posted March 14, 2015 #1666 Posted March 14, 2015 Spiders have been busy! texxn5 and HIPEXEC 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
Sjors Posted March 14, 2015 #1667 Posted March 14, 2015 You still know where all those wires goes ?????? Very nice shot Rich !! Sjors GLakie, HIPEXEC and texxn5 3 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
HIPEXEC Posted March 14, 2015 Author #1668 Posted March 14, 2015 Believe it or not....I now know....and will forever know....where all those braces, sheets and halyards go. A month ago I was plain stumped! Sjors, Dimitris71, texxn5 and 2 others 5 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
Dimitris71 Posted March 14, 2015 #1669 Posted March 14, 2015 Beautiful work Rich!! Regards Dimitris GLakie, texxn5 and HIPEXEC 3 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale
GLakie Posted March 14, 2015 #1670 Posted March 14, 2015 Believe it or not....I now know....and will forever know....where all those braces, sheets and halyards go. A month ago I was plain stumped! Like Dennis said Rich: Knowing what their purpose is, and what they're called, is half the battle. HIPEXEC and texxn5 2 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
HIPEXEC Posted March 16, 2015 Author #1671 Posted March 16, 2015 Anybody know where to get 90mm longboat kits? Inexpensively? GLakie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
Jack12477 Posted March 16, 2015 #1672 Posted March 16, 2015 Anybody know where to get 90mm longboat kits? Inexpensively? Rich, go to Model Expo's website - in the search box type LONGBOATS - they have a whole page of small longboat kits. Not sure if they are 90mm but worth a look-see. HIPEXEC and GLakie 2 Quote Jack "No one is as smart as all of us" - Is ón cheann a thagann an cheird The craft comes from the head --------------------------------------------- Current build: US Constellation Non-ship builds: USCG UH-65A Dolphin M16 Multi-gun motor carriage diorama M4A3 Sherman Tanks dioramas 1936-1939 Mercedes Benz 540K 1934 Rolls-Royce Phantom II JSDF Light Armor Vehicle Figures: The Last Bridge: Raider Reaper Edge of Universe: Ianis The Last Bridge: Vadim with cart Completed build log(s): 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne, Willie L Bennett 1888 50 ft Gaff-rigged Ice Yacht Scratch Build The Sullivans (DD 537) Liberty Ship SS John W Brown USS England (DE 635), Artesania Latina Titanic Lifeboat Gallery: Swift , Armed Virginia Sloop, Santisima Trinidad Captain's Launch , 18th Century Longboat , Marie Jeanne Other: Rhinebeck Aerodrome Tour
HIPEXEC Posted March 16, 2015 Author #1673 Posted March 16, 2015 Thanks, but no 90mm. GLakie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
HIPEXEC Posted March 16, 2015 Author #1674 Posted March 16, 2015 I'm rigging the spanker. Wow...there's a lot more there than meets the eye. I put up the ships colors, also including a pennant on the tip of the main. I made the pennant out of an old flag from my last (first) model. Dimitris71, GLakie, texxn5 and 2 others 5 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
GLakie Posted March 16, 2015 #1675 Posted March 16, 2015 Rich, have you tried either one of these? http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/index.htm or http://www.bluejacketinc.com/index.php HIPEXEC 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
robnbill Posted March 16, 2015 #1676 Posted March 16, 2015 Anybody know where to get 90mm longboat kits? Inexpensively? Rich, I have the CAD drawings for the 25 Captain's Gig and 28' Whaleboat. I also have the drawings of the 34' launch. These could be scaled to your model, but it would mean scratch building them. Let me know and I will get them to you. GLakie and HIPEXEC 2 Quote Bill Chantilly, VA Its not the size of the ship, but the bore of the cannon! Current Build: Scratch Build Brig Eagle Completed Build Log: USS Constitution - Mamoli Completed Build Gallery: USS Constitution - Mamoli
lambsbk Posted March 16, 2015 #1677 Posted March 16, 2015 "...so quickly you him to the dark side turn, hmm." :D GLakie 1 Quote Dave U.S.S. Constitution 1:96 Revell build with fiber optic lighting
GLakie Posted March 16, 2015 #1678 Posted March 16, 2015 So----say it isn't! RICH------I--am your father! lambsbk, clearway and HIPEXEC 3 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild
HIPEXEC Posted March 17, 2015 Author #1679 Posted March 17, 2015 Rich, I have the CAD drawings for the 25 Captain's Gig and 28' Whaleboat. I also have the drawings of the 34' launch. These could be scaled to your model, but it would mean scratch building them. Let me know and I will get them to you. I'm not up to scratch building. Thanks GLakie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
HIPEXEC Posted March 17, 2015 Author #1680 Posted March 17, 2015 Rich, have you tried either one of these? http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/index.htm or http://www.bluejacketinc.com/index.php Thanks...I ordered some through BlueJacket. GLakie 1 Quote Rich Rich USS Constitution by hipexec (Finished build) Virginia Pilot Boat 1805 (gallery - first build) USS Syren (USS Argus) by Hipexec Joshua Slocum's Spray by HIPEXEC
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