Knocklouder Posted August 13, 2023 Share #1 Posted August 13, 2023 Hello, I just found out my cannons are to big, they look really big. So I was wondering if someone could tell me what the right size for the Pegasus, 1:64 scale Then I will order 16. Thanks. thibaultron, Keith Black and John Ruy 3 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 , Hannah Ship in a Bottle -1:300 The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , The Mayflower-Amati-1:60 Current Build: 1972 Ford Sport Custom On Hold: HMS Pegasus: Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Blue Ensign Posted August 13, 2023 Solution Share #2 Posted August 13, 2023 The kit provided guns are overscale, and inaccurate in shape and style. I replaced mine with brass 32mm length guns from RB Models (Poland) but since then resin versions have come onto the market. Vanguard sell six pounder gun sets which you may wish to consider, and I believe Chuck (Syren) also supply resin barrels. While you're at it you may wish to consider the swivels. The Amati supplied versions are awful, I again used brass versions 15mm from RB models which are spot on for scale. These do involve making your own crutches. The Amati gun carriages just about pass muster, but the trucks looked very thin and I also replaced those. B.E. davyboy, Keith Black, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted August 13, 2023 Share #3 Posted August 13, 2023 Knocklouder In TFFM Volume II, David Antscherl mentions the lack of room and thus the possibility that they were six feet from muzzle to cascabel rather than muzzle to breech ring. FWIW below is a drawing with dimensions for 1:64 of Armstrong Fredericks which would be right for Pegasus 1776. It shows one with 6 feet from muzzle to breech ring and one with 6 feet from muzzle to cascabel. Note that the AF pattern has a flash pan, cascabel ring and a chase astragal ring. The cascabel ring is a predominant feature on both the Armstrong pattern and Armstrong-Frederick pattern cannons. Sorry for the imperial figures versus metric. The bore in the drawing below is 3.6" as the 6 pounders were 3.5" in diameter. Allan Canute, thibaultron, mtaylor and 4 others 6 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieste Posted August 16, 2023 Share #4 Posted August 16, 2023 72 OA doesn't sound right. Gun lengths tended to be in 6" lengths, from breech ring to muzzle face, and the cascabel and breech 2 calibres or a little over 7.3" - (roughly) 71.3" is a possible overall length from a 66" gun, but 72 doesn't fit the scheme. ... but the standard naval patterns for 6pdr only start from 6ft (72") and run up to 8.5ft (earlier to even longer guns including at least the 9ft pattern). I doubt that the ordnance was any shorter than 72" from breechring to muzzle face, or was improperly referred to by the other measure using an incorrect value. Canute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocklouder Posted September 7, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Thank you so much, @allanyed, I sent this info to my good friend @Gabek. And based on the info, he made me 20 cannons that when fully rigged will look marvelous. The right size and shape, Thank you both, can't go wrong with friends like you guys. PS I only have volume lll of TFFM, lol. Edited September 7, 2023 by Knocklouder More info allanyed, mtaylor, Gabek and 1 other 4 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 , Hannah Ship in a Bottle -1:300 The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , The Mayflower-Amati-1:60 Current Build: 1972 Ford Sport Custom On Hold: HMS Pegasus: Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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