Staghound 1850 by rwiederrich - 1/96 - Extreme Clipper

[rwiederrich]

Dry fitting the bulkheads. 
 

Rob

[Rick310]

Looks great Rob!!

Rick

[BANYAN]

No holding you back now Rob, we can already see the graceful lines of this beauty.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[ClipperFan]

On 11/1/2024 at 6:32 PM, rwiederrich said:

Dry fitting the bulkheads. 
 

Rob

@rwiederrich

Strap in. The Rob dragster of production is just firing up! I can barely contain my excitement. Meanwhile, the maritime historian in me just can't help but resist a comparison from your past future production. As a way of comparing McKay's inagural 1850 extreme California Clipper Stag Hound with his final 1869 medium California Clipper Glory of the Seas here's a couple scenes of her in the similar bulkhead stage. From Rob's past build June 3rd, 2021 almost exactly 3 & 1/2 years ago to his current post, Friday, November 1st, 2024! Since I couldn't locate images of her in the same exact angle, I flipped one to give an approximate comparison. You can see how the extreme 40" deadrise at half hull for Stag Hound was greatly reduced for Glory of the Seas which had a practically flat 8" deadrise at half hull. Still both have quite noticeably sharp clipper entrance and exits.

Edited November 3 by ClipperFan
additional information

[KeithAug]

Good looking frames Rob. It is aways a welcome sight to see the hulls form, even when it is a skeleton.

[ClipperFan]

2 hours ago, KeithAug said:

Good looking frames Rob. It is aways a welcome sight to see the hulls form, even when it is a skeleton.

@KeithAug

enjoy them while you may as Rob works quickly and efficiently. Pretty soon, the magnificent hull of Stag Hound will appear in all her svelte glory!

[rwiederrich]

I'm sorry for any delays my friends...but I have been under the weather for the last 3 days....just now getting my strength back.  fighting a tough cough.  My annual Bronchitis battle.  I hope to get going in a couple of days.

I first have to trace the stem so I can make the cutwater and root for the naval hood.  Rich...we decided she had a 3ft keel is that correct.  I'll be reinforcing her bulkheads as well....similar to that of Glory of the Seas.

 

Measuring her frames...it is true she was a narrow thing.  She'll widen up after I plank her.  Still 24ft at the skylight/companionway on her poop is pretty narrow.  Almost makes her deck furniture seam too large..

 

First things first.

 

Rob

[Rick310]

She’s going to be beautiful Rob!!

Rick

[FriedClams]

Very nice progress, Rob.  Hope you're feeling better soon.

 

Gary

Edited November 4 by FriedClams

[rwiederrich]

56 minutes ago, FriedClams said:

Very nice progress, Rob.  Hope you're feeling better soon.

 

Gary

Thanks Gary.   In a couple more days I think I’ll get to work.  
 

Rob

[ClipperFan]

On 11/4/2024 at 8:26 AM, rwiederrich said:

I'm sorry for any delays my friends...but I have been under the weather for the last 3 days....just now getting my strength back.  fighting a tough cough.  My annual Bronchitis battle.  I hope to get going in a couple of days.

I first have to trace the stem so I can make the cutwater and root for the naval hood.  Rich...we decided she had a 3ft keel is that correct.  I'll be reinforcing her bulkheads as well....similar to that of Glory of the Seas.

 

Measuring her frames...it is true she was a narrow thing.  She'll widen up after I plank her.  Still 24ft at the skylight/companionway on her poop is pretty narrow.  Almost makes her deck furniture seam too large..

 

First things first.

 

Rob

@rwiederrich it's not a great image, for which I apologize. However, 8' before the stern taffrail on my poop deck plan lines up exactly with the fore of the steering wheel box. It also happens to be aligned with aft walls of the stern waterclosets. Width at that location is 24 & 1/2' as described in Duncan McLean's Stag Hound article. Midpoint of the skylight appears to be 35' across, compared to the 37' width of the poop deck fore. At the companion, it appears to be 30'. If these sketched dimensions don't match with the bulkheads, then let me know what your actual lines are. 

I know the lines on the poop deck fore look crooked. The sketch is actually arrow straight. Since the pape is 14" × 17" it's hard to get the entire image correct.  

Edited November 8 by ClipperFan
additional info

[rwiederrich]

Spent some time in the shop.  I disassembled the hull, because it had a warp in the keel 

So I drilled and pinned it to the desk.  I aligned the pins so they were straight.    
 

I then pressed the keel down and there you go

Now for some gluing 

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

Now the bulkheads are glued in.   On a straight keel.  
 

[rwiederrich]

Then I added bulkhead braces.  
 

[rwiederrich]

Now I’ll let it dry and tomorrow I’ll begin chamfering them.   
 

I also drew out the cut water by transferring the stem to a piece of maple.    I will work on the plank sheet height for the naval hood at that time.  
 

Rob

[Rick310]

Beautiful hull Rob, seems to have quite the narrow beam.  Wonder how stable she was in rough weather?

Rick

[rwiederrich]

54 minutes ago, Rick310 said:

Beautiful hull Rob, seems to have quite the narrow beam.  Wonder how stable she was in rough weather?

Rick

That has always been the question.  McKay quickly flattened out the dead rise of subsequent designs....some with less than 8deg deadrise.  Flat bottom boats handled better.  but Staghound had an extreme entry/exit along with a 40" deadrise.  I've read no reports that she handled poorly.

 

Rob

[druxey]

Hopefully the bulkhead bracing will keep the hull straight.

[rwiederrich]

I'm going to be using a completely unorthodox way to plank this hull.  Many,,many years ago, when I was young, I worked at DuraCraft.  A manufacturer of wooden doll houses...in Newberg Oregon.

I collected a very impressive stash of milled pine,  and hardwood veneers.  I will be planking with 2" wide, by 1.5 32nds think planks.  They nicely bend around just about any curve.  In many instances I will not plank horizontal to follow the form of the bulkheads.  I use CA to initially glue the planks in place and then follow up with a good wood glue.  I pin the planks down first.   If you followed my Great Republic build...you will see the process.  

I will be making some modifications to this process, (Lessons learned).   I intend to use some wood filler..to make transitions smooth and I hope this planking process will go quickly and smoothly.

As normal...I will be carving the stern transom...and transitioning the planking to it.

 

The planksheer  will be my foundation, for establishing the sheer of the main and monkey rails and the top Moulding of the naval hood....by transferring its dimensions 

 

Lots of landmarks to consider at the same time.

 

Rob

[rwiederrich]

46 minutes ago, druxey said:

Hopefully the bulkhead bracing will keep the hull straight.

There is no reason to think otherwise.  I plan on planking both sides beginning with the planksheer up to the monkey rail first...to prevent any forced bending of the hull.

 

Rob

[Vladimir_Wairoa]

Rob, 

have you received it havent you?

Wow that was quick. I didnt expect it to arrive in time. 
Thanks for sharing and im glad bulkheads actually fit because I didnt see them myself in real,  only here. So I can slip comfortably into chair and watch you progress.  please remeasure carefully back cabin length and fcastle length and so on...:) im glad you braced bulkheads and fixed them. 

much luck with it . 
V. 

Edited November 8 by Vladimir_Wairoa
add

[ClipperFan]

6 hours ago, Rick310 said:

Beautiful hull Rob, seems to have quite the narrow beam.  Wonder how stable she was in rough weather?

Rick

Rick,

From the few contemporary accounts that I've read about the weatherly qualities of Stag Hound her Captain gave her high praise, stating there wasn't another ship that could pass her. He also said she was a very stable and dry ship. What came as a surprise to me though was that the 3 decker Webb California Clipper Challenge had an even more extreme 43" at half-hull.

[rwiederrich]

Sorry for the laps in activity.
I began to lay planking by getting everything ready and a situation arose. My daughter is buying a new home....however that is upon the contingency of selling her own home first. that means she and her family will be staying with me for around a month. I had to use my work shop as a temp storage space to make room for her and her 6 kids stuff.
Needless to say, I have no access to my shop at this juncture. It is on the other side of the spare bedroom, she and her family are using. I've had to put my build on temp hold for the time being.

We have been quite busy around here making room and decluttering the house for her family. She has 6 kids...from age 10 on down to 2. So I have lots of stuff to put away and protect.

She's getting a much bigger house...if everything goes as planned. So hopefully in a month from now...I'll have some progress to post, when I put my world back together again.

[Rick310]

Rob, keep the model safe and enjoy this time with your family!  Our daughter and her family, which included our 2 year granddaughter stayed with us for a year and a half ( only supposed to be 6 months, yea, right!),  We were still going back and forth between Cleveland and Maine at the time, but when we were here in Maine, having that time with our granddaughter was wonderful and we have a very special relationship with her now!  So, enjoy!!

Rick

[BANYAN]

Couldn't settle on an appropriate emoticon to acknowledge your post Rob, so I have posted here.

 

Wow  a house full of grandkids, and hopefully a few budding ship modeller's among them? Good luck with it all in terms of preserving your models, tools household goods and especially your sanity.  As much as I love my grandkids and love to be with them (the greatest joy in my life), a couple of months in the same house would drive me nuts I think  

 

Look forward to your future updates.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[rwiederrich]

Thanks everyone.  My wife reminds me that this is the time we will never have again and we must take full advantage of having our grand babies with us so intimately.  They are not moving far away...and we generally see them once a week or so.  We had a big fire in the pit last night...enjoying *smores*.  It was nice..untill the boys began to rough house....dad had to shut that down fast.   Boys will be boys...they say......  The girls weren't far behind them.

I can only see my model room through memory......    I still have my advice and opinions though......

 

Rob