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Good evening, 

 

I picked up this kit when on sale from Model-Expo. I finished their first kit in the Shipwright Series, but I am not as ready as I wanted to move to next ship in the series. Instead I wanted to do another Dory, and this is challenging me and I am having some fun which is more important.

 

A little about me, this is my second ship model. The last time I worked on a model, it was almost forty years ago. I have picked up modeling this year, and I have been bitten by the wood model bug. On the side I am also doing some plastic models. 

 

I stated the kit on August 25, and started to look over the plans, and tonight, I was able to complete the knee, stem, transom, and the cleats. I tried something new today, I used magnets and a stainless steel board as a build board, and it seems to be functioning pretty well. However, I am still a little gun shy on using this method to make the frames, so I am waiting on a piece of cork to be delivered.

 

The documentation is well written, however there is a bias for using CA glue, which I am not a fan of. I rather use PVA, and that is what I am using primarily with this model. 

 

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Looks like you're off to a great start! I'm looking forward to following along, I haven't seen a log for this kit yet and was curious about how it compares with the Model Shipways version. These small fishing boats in a large scale leave a lot of room for creativity and personalization through kitbashing.

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Good morning, I noticed my transom had a small twist favoring the port side. So I removed the transom and knew  using isopropyl. I noticed the knee was not fully 90 degrees, so I reset the angles with some more sanding, then re-assembled.

 

You can see the twist on the image wit the red squares. The second photo shows the reset for the transom placement.

 

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Good evening, my build board arrived today so I was able to make some progress. Considering my cork board is 12x12 I had to cut out the frame plans from the full plan so I could arrange them on the board.

 

 

 

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 After adding the images to the board, I covered it with plastic wrap, and then started to build the frames.

 

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After the frames where dry I was able to mount them to the bottom plank.

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Finally, I was glued up the mast step.

 

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Good evening,

 

I made some more progress today with the Dory. First I trimmed and bevelled the mast step. I had to trim the short end of the mast step to be 1/16 from the center of hole. I trimmed it a little long, and used my sander to get a perfect 90 for all axises (x, y & z). 

 

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Next I added the mast step next to frame #2. 

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After gluing i moved to fairing my frames, transom and stem. In hindsight, I should have purchased a wood plane to make the bevelling easier on the stem but overall I am satisfied with the result using my sanding block.

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One thing I learned from the Model Shipways Dory, is not to be as aggressive with the fairing. On that project I broke through one of the frames, and I had to fix it by adding some more wood to it. During this phase I did do a dry fit of the planks to make sure they where contacting nicely to the frames.

 

Finally tonight, I was able to get the strong board ready. The kit arrived with the right dimension for the wood but the lengths where off, so I had to cut the pieces correctly. Below is the dry fit and marking of the board.

 

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Once was satisfied with the fit that includes everything is 90 degrees, I glued the pieces to the strong board. I tried using CA but, alast that product is my bane. I ended up using PVA so that the end of the night. 

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Good evening, 

 

Tonight, I mounted the Dory to the strong board. 

 

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Then I bevelled the edges of the garboards before fitting them.

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I then added the garboards to the Dory.

 

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If you notice on the starboard side at the bow, the plank broke as I was trimming it. I tried to fix with some ca glue but that was a disaster. I guess it will be some wood filler when I remove the Dory from the jig.

 

Have a good evening...

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You know its Friday and 3:00ish and you decide you don't want to work. So I stepped away from the computer and did a little dry fitting of the first middle plank. The boss called for a two hour pair programming session, so I did not get as much as I would l have liked done. 

 

The plans did call to mark 1/16 of an inch down from the top of the garboard, and to bevel opposite sides of the plank. Below you can see the initial dry fitting looks pretty good.

 

I did fill that one spot with some plastic wood filler, but it is goint to be a bear to clean up after I remove the Dory from the strong board.

 

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On 9/1/2024 at 9:20 PM, JacquesCousteau said:

Looks like you're off to a great start! I'm looking forward to following along, I haven't seen a log for this kit yet and was curious about how it compares with the Model Shipways version. These small fishing boats in a large scale leave a lot of room for creativity and personalization through kitbashing.

Jacques, I am finding this kit is a nice compliment to the Model Shipways Lowell Dory. In some sense it is easier because of the size. I am however learning some better techniques. For example one thing on this kit that is different is the planking we need to bevel the sides so we get a better connection between planks. The strong board approach is also interesting, and unique to this build.

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Good evening, 

 

Today I completed, the mid planks on the dory.

 

One lesson I learned on the Model Shipways Dory, it is ok to use more glue. This time arround I was more heavy handed with the glue, before clamping and fitting the planks.

 

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Also if you look below I had to bevel opposite sides of the plan so that it meets up better. If you remember when I added the garboard, I had a bevel that was facing out, and on the plank I had the same bevel facing inside of the boat, along with a bevel that faces out on the top of the plank. Does this make sense?

 

Here is the first mid plank clamped up.

 

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I did both sides before moving on to the second mid plank. Before doing the port side, I removed the excess from the planks after a good 30 minute soaking.

 

Here I am clamping the second mid plank on the starboard side, if you notice the arrows on the prepped plank and the plank that is clamped you those are bevels.

 

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Finally the second mid plank is added to the port side.

 

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Another view of the starboard side.

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Good evening, I mad a lot more progress on the dory. In fact I am about 1/2 done with the project, according to documents. Step 95/190. :)

 

Today I added the shear planks but before I noticed on the starboard side, that one of the planks on the top middle plank did not have enough glue so I added more and proceed with adding the shear plank to the port side after removing the braces on the stem with some isopropyl.

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After the glue had a chance to dry, I also added the shear plan to the starboard side.

About an hour later, I removed the Dory from the strong board by removing the pins in the center, and the braces on the transom with some isopropyl.

I then plugged the two holes with toothpicks, and remove the excess plank material from the transom and bow.

 

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I also leveled out the garboards to be even with the bottom using my micro plane and sanding stick.

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I cleaned up the transom, and added some fairing on the planks.

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I also did some putty work on the tramsome and planks to clean up any gouges from scraping the glue, or obvious glue. By the way does anyone have a good recommendation of a putty that is better than the dap putty I am using?

 

The plans call to add a false stem on the bow and you can see the curvature that is needed. The plans indicated to use ca and just bend it the plank.

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I rather use pva, so I soaked the stem in some hot water and used a plank bender to clean up the curve.

 

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I am really impressed with that tool. However the scorch marks  where horrendous. I spent better part of 40 minutes cleaning up the marks, and it still not perfect.

 

Next I applyied pva and glued the false stem to the bow after some sanding and planing to get a nice contact. I also added some fairing to the planks.

 

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Finally, the plans called to fair the false stem to a point, and again I used my micro plane and sanding block. I think this turned out rather nice.

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I highly recommend a micro plane it makes this work much easier and cleaner. Though my wife is tapping her foot as I need to vacuum the game room again.

 

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I'm enjoying your build log. I did the Model Shipways dory as my first model. Seeing the one you're doing, I'm thinking the larger scale might have made it  easier for a beginner.

 

When you praise your micro plane, do you mean a very small wood plane, or a Microplane (tm) brand tool of some sort? 

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29 minutes ago, Dan Poirier said:

I'm enjoying your build log. I did the Model Shipways dory as my first model. Seeing the one you're doing, I'm thinking the larger scale might have made it  easier for a beginner.

 

When you praise your micro plane, do you mean a very small wood plane, or a Microplane (tm) brand tool of some sort? 

yeah i did the model shipways dory and this is a nice complement to the project and in general i would suggest this build first then move to shipwright series.  

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Good morning, 

 

A quick update from yesterday. I started work on the gunwales with adding the bands on the port and starboard sides.

First I dry fitted the external plank and marked the bow angle.

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After trimming and sanding, I then glued to the side of the dory. The curve was not excessive so there was no need to use my plank bender.

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I repeated the process for the other side, and let it sit over night. Here is the results after removing the clamps.

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Good evening. I made some more progress on the Dory tonight with getting the gunwales partially installed. 

 

First I added the first layer of the inner gunwale between the frame.

 

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After the glue dried i then cut the frame flush with the gunwale. 

 

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Next I added  notches in the frames for the next layer of the gunwale. 

 

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I then fitted the final piece of the inner gunwale. 

 

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Finally I did some sanding and added filler in preparing for paint. 

 

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Looking good!

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F7DBABAA-6CEC-4C6D-A744-265ADE7B2525_1_201_a.heic9FF5BC1A-2FF8-44D7-836C-88535D621B4B_1_201_a.heic9FF5BC1A-2FF8-44D7-836C-88535D621B4B_1_201_a.heicGood afternoon, I made some more progress on my Dory. I wanted to get the gunwales finished up before I leave for an extended weekend for my 27th anniversary. 

 

First I cut the bow stem to be even with the gunwales.  I then planed and sanded to get everything even and smooth.

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Next I then notched the transom and dry fitted the gunwale cap. 

 

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I then glued the cap onto the gunwales, where I will let it setup over the weekend.

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Cheers

 

Jim

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Good stopping point. Congratulations on your anniversary. Have a wonderful trip!

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Good evening. A minor update tonight. I did some minor sanding of the Dory and then I installed the breasthook. 

 

I then tapered the risers.  

 

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Finally I then installed the risers. 

 

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Good evening a minor update tonight. 

 

Today I fitted the thwarts and it is now starting to look like a Dory. 

 

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I am very pleased that the mast is straight. 

 

As I wait for some filler and stain the plan is to start on the oars and trawl bucket tomorrow. 

 

I do have some model expo oak stain that is paint :facepalm:  has anyone use this stain?  I did order some Littlefairs stain which arrived this weekend. I am wondering if anyone has use this stain?

 

 

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Good evening, I made some progress today,

 

First I added the becket holes after having a minor panic attack as I needed a 2, 2.5 and 3 mm drill bits. I found them at Harbor Freight, along with some smaller drill bits for the pin vise.

 

When drilling, I used the strong back as a backing so the holes do not explode. This was mostly successful, the starboard side at the bow was a little challenged. These holes are 3 mm.

 

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Next I rounded and sanded the thwarts, and gunwales. Last thing is we do not want our sailors getting hurt on sharp edges :)

 

 

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Next I marked off the thole posts. I did this about three times before I was satisfied that they where even.

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Then I drilled the twelve holes with a 2 mm bit.

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Then I started to make the thole pins. I used my cutter and cut them 1/2" long, Then used a compass to mark off 1/4" line. From there I was then started to round the pins. the hole size is 2mm.

 

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I found holding the pin in my pliers I was able to use a sanding stick to thin the pin.

 

Here you can see that I was able to get pins to be even on both sides of the Dory with the dry fit.

 

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Also you can see that the ports are even across the Dory.

 

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All of the pins are pulled and on tape so I do not loose them. I will only seal them with shellac to keep the natural color.

 

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Next I noticed that one the thwart rails was longer, so I trimmed it so it was even with the port side. This error was due to me not compinsating for the 3/16" difference in the rib due to the offset.

 

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Next I drilled the hole for the trawl, it is 2.5mm. Initially I wanted it on the starboard side, but the bit split the rail, so I plugged it with a toothpick and moved the port side. Considering I am left handed, I thought a port trawl is reasonable. As you can see it fits nicely in the hole. When I glue it in, I will have it showing 1/8" under the rail. I am thinking a brass color for it. Any thoughts or ideas?

 

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Finally I started to work on the trawl bucket. I had to cut 40 1 1/4" pieces, and I used my cutter for this. I lined them up against a ruler and square and then added tape to them. I will stain them either english oak or light oak. I am waiting on the stain for this. At the same time, I mounted the ends of the bucket to  its jig.

 

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Have a good evening.

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Good evening. Today was a productive session. I am getting close to painting the Dory, but before getting there. I started with testing some English Oak Stain I purchased. It is water base, and I am not to sure I really like the color. I have a light oak color coming tomorrow, so it will be interesting to see how it performs. If it does not work well then I will maybe get some of that Vetero alcohol stain for staining my trawl bucket.

 

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Next I started to shape the oars, after cutting the dowel to size. I then used a compass to transfer the transition to the dowel. IMG_2311.thumb.jpeg.6fd9d720f2f5bc256434ba0c8cdcb014.jpeg

 

I then shaped the handle by a combination of scoring the cheek cut, and carving out the handle. From there I used my drill as a makeshift lathe for sanding the handle.

 

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I then proceed to cut the oar blades, and then shape them using my sander.

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The angle I used was 10 degrees, though the plan was probably closer to 9 degrees.

 

Next I created a jig out of double sided tape, and some stock so I can add the blades to the oar and that it is mostly centered so that I can do the final shaping tomorrow.

 

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This is the result after gluing.

 

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Next I started work on the mast and the main stay. Using my compass i transferred the marks I needed to drill. 

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After drilling, I then shaped the mast and main stay using my drill. The main stay had a nasty flat spot on the dowel, so I gave it a minor taper.

 

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Hopefully tomorrow I can do the finish sanding, and then sealing of the Dory with shellac before I paint it this weekend. I am hoping to finish the sail this weekend and then seal the model with some matt varnish. The oars I am going to leave a natural color along with the mainstay and mast.

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In progress

Grand Bank Dory - Midwest Products/Model Shipways

 

In queue

Norwegian Sailing Pram - Model Shipways

Peterborough Canoe  - Midewest Products/Model Shipways

 

Completed

Model Shipways Lowell Grand Banks

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