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"It's amazing what a boat can do"

 

TallyHo.jpg.20df7b06f1ede80fd4b3d1b39c96c78f.jpgTALLY HO with fidded topmast and spinnaker flying. Photo; Beken of Cowes, 1927.

Tally Ho is not just a boat - it is an amazing story of friendship, perseverance, skill and success, a crossroad of many journeys - of men and boats.

 

It all started with Albert Strange, a man of many talents, with a passion for sailing and for designing light cruising vessels. He designed Tally Ho (originally named Betty) which was built and commissioned in 1910. The Albert Strange Association website is really the best place to learn about this remarkable person. https://albertstrange.org/biography/

 

Tally Ho lived a colourful but hard life. The highlight is, or rather had been up to now, winning the Fastnet race in 1927 but then, in 1968, she actually sunk hitting a reef in Manuae, near Cook Islands. She was then raised and repaired. https://sampsonboat.co.uk/about/tally-ho-history

 

Many people came and went and Tally Ho was brought into disrepair, hauled ashore somewhere in the west cost of America and placed under a huge tarpaulin. She was put up for an unlikely sale, destined to be broken up.

 

There comes Leo, a fearless young man with a dream - he bought Tally Ho for $1 and then spent 7 years rebuilding her from the ground up. The journey can be found on You Tube, Leo has posted hundreds of videos and through this funded the project. It is a fascinating journey with its ups and downs, happy and sad moments, triumphs and disasters. She is now all finished, truly a wonderful boat, slowly making her way back to the UK.

 

 

 

Watching the videos (I actually picked all this up rather late) there was no doubt in my mind that one day I would build Tally Ho.

 

This will be a big project and at this time (and for the foreseeable future) I have no time to spare, limited finances, multiple other endeavours and Hercules half way through. What better time to start building Tally Ho than now! After all, her story is one of overcoming obstacles, with a launching date 2 years from now - so all good.

 

I hope I will be able to pull this off and also, to do the boat justice! 

 

I contacted the Albert Strange Association and got the plans. I ve been sitting on these for months now but I finally fired up the computer and started drawing lines with virtual ink on CAD. I have not decided on the scale yet but it will be large. 

 

Take care all

Vaddoc

Posted

Ok, so lets do a quick follow up post with the first thoughts on this.

 

To start with, the plans do not seem to be as comprehensive. There are the lines and some drafts of the keel and a table of offsets but something feels not quite right. Then again, Leo managed to loft the boat so everything should be there.

 

I checked the plans and the lines are not really straight, or vertical. This is common however, paper distorts over time and CAD is really very unforgiving to plans drafted 115 years ago. These lines will be ok to start but serious lofting will be needed. Still, this seems a much easier boat to loft than Hercules

 

I imported the plans to Rhino and scaled them to the actual boat size. I need to dive more into these but it seems that the distances as measured from the lines plan are not the same as in the table of offsets.

 

I am not sure where the stem/start of sheer should be or where the Transom sits.

 

To make things worse, the plans I received do not seem to have been scanned very well. Most of the text in the table of offsets was missing but I managed to recreate it by watching Leo's videos - he had the same plans and they can be seen in a video, so I was able to read almost all of the missing text.

 

A part of the lines plan has not been scanned well and another small area at the bow is missing - apparently permanently damaged as it is missing from Leo's plans as well

 

However, the same lines are easily found on the internet, clearly copied before the damage occurs so I scaled this to size and used it to fill the gaps - kind off.

 

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So I blended all together and came up with a sheer plan view

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Then added the profile view and created the sheer from these

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Adding the other half, shows a bit of the boat shape

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Now this is just a study of the plans as I am not really sure where the sheer begins and ends, but it's a start.

 

Until next time

 

Vaddoc

  • The title was changed to Tally Ho by vaddoc - scale 1:12 (maybe) - as rebuilt by Leo
Posted (edited)

 Vaddoc, I'm following along hoping that someone actually finishes a Tally Ho build. I think it's four builds (?) that I've watched start that have withered on the vine. 

Edited by Keith Black

Current Builds: Sternwheeler from the Susquehanna River's Hard Coal Navy

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

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                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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This is a worthwhile project, but much more challenging than it would seem at first glance.  Full speed ahead, Vddoc!  You will be finished in two years.

 

Keith, I understand your Tally Ho tally.  You could add me to the list, but I never sought to build the boat.  I have, however, lofted out the working lines, a set of frames showing the bevel, and lofted out the axial pieces.  That exhausted my commitment to the project, so I am done.  Here are some screenshots of my work if anyone is interested.

 

This is the plan lines from the internet reworked and reconciled.  There are a lot of decisions one must make to fill in missing information on this boat.

Tally Ho Master Lines.PDF

 

This picture shows the axial pieces indicating the joinery and frame placements at the heels.  Also shown are the lofts of the frames.

Drawing1 Frames and Keel.PDF

 

Wayne

Posted
17 minutes ago, wrkempson said:

Keith, I understand your Tally Ho tally.  You could add me to the list, but I never sought to build the boat.

 Wayne, after searching Tally Ho builds It appears I was wrong by double. Until Vaddoc's current build there have only been two other attempts. It seemed like more to me but then old age plays funny tricks on one's memory.  

Current Builds: Sternwheeler from the Susquehanna River's Hard Coal Navy

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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@Desertanimal @Knocklouder Chris and Bob many thanks, and to all that hit the like button, great to have you along!

@Keith Black Keith, I was actually thinking the same, life certainly has the annoying habit of getting in the way. This boat in some ways is like the Deben I ve built in the past, but larger and far more complex and Lord knows how much work that boat took, when I had much more time. But we can't leave MSW without a model of Tally Ho so let's hope everything will work out in the end.

 

@wrkempson Wayne wow! This is just great, thank you for sharing. It is interesting that you reached the same conclusion, that Tally Ho's plans are like a puzzle with a few pieces missing. I will need to study your master lines and all the good work you did, see how it compares to the plans and the table of offsets. Which software did you use?

 

Best wishes to all 

Vaddoc

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, vaddoc said:

Keith, I was actually thinking the same, life certainly has the annoying habit of getting in the way. This boat in some ways is like the Deben I ve built in the past, but larger and far more complex and Lord knows how much work that boat took, when I had much more time. But we can't leave MSW without a model of Tally Ho so let's hope everything will work out in the end.

 Vaddoc, you have the torch and I have faith you'll carry it to the end. 👍

Current Builds: Sternwheeler from the Susquehanna River's Hard Coal Navy

                            Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee

                            Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia

 

Completed: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula

                      1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver                       

                       Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration

 

 

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