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So for those who missed it, I recently picked up a 1/35 model of a Chevrolet C15a Personnel Lorry from IBG Models (shipped all the way from Australia, and arrived on the afternoon before Canada Post went on strike...again....

 

As I may have referenced in a previous build (see my P-40 Kittyhawk build), my great uncle was an artillery officer during the second world war. I have, naturally, been doing a lot of research into what his regiment did during the war, and also the technical details, things such as vehicles and equipment used, etc. My great uncle was a Lieutenant in the 2nd Medium Regiment, RCA. He was assigned to "Q" battery as a Section Leader. A medium artillery regiment was comprised of 16 4.5" or 5.5" guns. The 16 guns were divided into two batteries of 8. In the case of the 2 Meds, the batteries were "P" and "Q" (formerly the 18th and the 25th batteries, when they were called up at the start of the war). Each battery would be subdivided further into 2 troops of 4 guns ("A", "B","C","D"). After late '42 or early '43, each troop was further subdivided down to a section of 2 guns. Each section would be led by a lieutenant, or a senior NCO. The division of the gun troops into sections was more a formality than anything. It didn't increase the regiment's wartime establishment in terms of personnel. Likely this was done to improve communications and therefore response times and accuracy of artillery fire. 

 

An artillery section leader was assigned a 15 Cwt (cwt=hundredweight for the uninitiated,) vehicle fitted for wireless (FFW), along with, I assume, a driver and signaller (15cwt would be about 3/4 ton). During the war, there were many different options for what type of vehicle was used. A few possible options I've been able to uncover so far include the British Bedford MW, the American built White Scout Car, the Canadian Military Pattern (CMP) Chevrolet C15a, or the Dodge D15 (also Canadian built, but known as Modified Conventional Pattern, MCP). Of these four (so far) possibilities, I am somewhat confident in excluding the Bedford MW, as I can find no reference to it in the 1944 Canadian Army Overseas Vehicle Data Book. The Dodge also does not appear in that book, however it looks to have been in use  by the Canadian army in the Italian campaign. Many of these Dodges were inherited leftovers from the 8th Army's desert campaign, handed over to the Canadian 5th Armoured division and artillery troops who arrived in Italy in November '43 sans equipment (there was a lot of wheeling and dealing done by the Canadian government to get more Canadian troops sent to Italy in the fall of '43). Anyway, the 3rd possible option I was looking at, the White Scout car was used in some artillery regiments, but it seems from my research that armoured vehicles would have been used closer to the front line. As the medium artillery regiments where more rearward (not totally out of danger, but there were definitely fewer bullets flying around), I don't think that they would have been equipped with many armoured vehicles, and those would have been saved for use by the Forward Observation Officers (FOOs) or other more front-line adjacent uses. Which has left by with the Chevy C15a as the most likely candidate for the type of vehicle my great uncle would have been riding around in for a good chunk of his time.

 

One of Canada's greatest, and least known, contributions to the second world war (as far as mechanization is concerned), was the production of some 850,000 trucks in various sizes. More vehicles than were produced by Germany during the same time period. A quite remarkable achievement considering the population differences! The CMP trucks came in a variety of sizes, but all featured standardized and interchangeable parts. Even the cabs were of a standard design (for the most part, Dodge did its own thing, hence the MCP designation). The only way to tell a Ford CMP from a Chevy CMP (from the outside, if the emblem had been shot off) was the front grill. Ford used a square pattern mesh, while the Chevy was a diamond pattern mesh. Under the hood was the only true difference, the Chevy used an 85hp inline 6 cylinder engine, while Ford stuck with its tried and true flathead V8, producing 95hp, although the performance ratings for each are identical.

 

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The IBG Models Chevrolet C15a is a 2016 tooling. IBG produced a number of CMP variants, as the use of standardized parts in the prototype makes this an easy proposition. I managed to snag my kit from BNA in Australia and the shipping was not too bad, which was surprising given the distance (the same kit from Hannants in the UK would have cost slightly less, but the shipping was double).

 

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The box is absolutely crammed full of plastic. As highlighted on the box, there are two different cab options, but each cab has the option of two different roofs. As the spruces are common to other releases, there are two different sets of frames rails (one for the 15cwt and one for the larger 30 cwt version), as well as options to display the cargo area with the tarp (as on the box), or open with the just the bows in place.

 

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A multitude of bags keeps the plethora of sprues safe and sound. After cleaning, I can say that the mould quality is quite good, no visible flash, or seam lines anywhere. One frame was slightly warped, but I don't foresee that being too much of a problem down the road. 

 

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The decals look decent, printed by Techmod, as you can see. I will be hunting for the correct markings, so the Formation signs and Arm Of Service (AOS) numbers won't be used for this build, only the WD numbers and the bridge rating.

 

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There is a small sheet of photo etch included. Oddly enough, the grill for the No 12 cab is a Ford grill (note the square mesh), so small whoopsie for IBG there. The No 13 cab mesh is the correct diamond pattern, along with the Chevy bowtie.

 

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The instructions are of a 3D Cad type rendering, including the painting instructions. I think this is the only real downside to the kit. It would have been nice to see a little bit of colour to help differentiate things a bit better, especially for the paint colour callouts, although on the plus side, they do show what each step should look like after completion.

 

Going forward on this build, I intend to model this as the Wire-3 model. The later Wire-5 had a solid rear cabin. I will need to get a few aftermarket goodies yet. Archer Transfers makes decals sets for most of the markings I will need, formation signs and tactical signs. I will be doing a little further digging to get the correct AOS number for the 2 Meds. I will also need to get a No 19 wireless set for the back. All of these I have located, but can't do a thing about until the postal strike is over. I won’t need them for a while yet, so I can commence building at any rate.

 

Wish me luck with this one!

Andy

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

Im in.

 

OC.

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Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

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  • The title was changed to Chevrolet C15a FFW by realworkingsailor - IBG Models - 1/35 - PLASTIC
Posted

Question for Mods/Admins regarding build log titles. I’m just curious why the log titles are now being amended to include kit material for non-wood kits (Plastic, card, etc)? 
I noticed no change in the naming policy:

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Again, I’m just curious, as the official policy includes no such provision. 
 

Andy

 

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

It's just a convention that has been carried over from naming ship builds, as is the all-caps formatting for media. Your humble moderating staff works hard to make sure the build logs have a uniform look and feel. 

 

P.S. What a cute dog in that screen capture!

Chris Coyle

Greer, South Carolina
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Vought SB2U Vindicator

 

Posted (edited)

Thanks everyone!

 

To get my feet into this facet of the hobby, as well as get myself out of the summer doldrums, I picked up the Tamiya 25 pounder and Quad FGT kit. While this kit went together fairly well, and has reasonably good detail, the tooling is definitely showing its age! With a tooling date of 1974, there are plenty of mould seam lines and small amounts of flash all over.

 

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It still builds up nice, and I would recommend it to anyone, as it is fairly inexpensive. I did add an an extra roof rack out of some styrene rod and I improved the grab handles by the roof hatch (I think they were stirrup steps from a 1/87th Tichy freight car kit I had leftover in the spares box). As the prototype Quad was build on the same chassis as the C15a, it should provide some interesting comparisons.

 

Anyway, it was enough kit to get me motivated and somewhat educated, so I'm not going into the C15 build completely ignorant.... I think....

 

Moving on with the main subject of this build log, the IBG instructions has the builder start off assembling a number of components that will be needed later on. There is definitely a generational shift between the IBG and Tamiya kits. Lots more parts, and much finer mouldings.

 

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The results of a few days work!

 

The instructions start off with the wheels and tires:

 

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Ok so far, not bad, decent introduction. There are locating pins, but they are not centred so the wheel halves can only go together one way. The tire branding and size is all clearly legible. Only a small cleanup to do around the joining seam.

 

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Following the wheels, we jump to the rear buffer and tow hook assembly. Five separate parts in that little assemble. Ooo... this is going to be a slow build...

 

Then the two cab side steps:

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One with a box, the other without. The one without I will eventually have to cobble together the cover for a little Johnson Chorehorse engine that was used to charge the radio batteries. On the hard body Wire-5 models, this auxiliary engine had its own little compartment, but on the canvas covers Wire-3, it sat on the front running board, hanging out in the open.

 

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Then came the two fuel tanks, handed left and right, so be careful removing parts from the sprue. Do one at a time!

 

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The transfer case. Interestingly, the Quad had an underslung PTO winch that ran off the same transfer case. The unused extra drive outlet for the C15a appears to have a grease cup in its place.

 

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The Front bumper was next. The towing shackles are separate parts and we get our first taste of PE! The brush guard features PE braces on the rear. A small locating nub helps with their alignment.

 

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The axles come next, starting with the front. 12 separate parts go into its assembly, and watch out as some of them are handed! The steering linkage needs to go on the shorter side. Also, move reasonably quickly into attaching the tie rod, as it will help ensure your front wheels are, at least, aligned. Doing this before the plastic cement has fully cured leaves enough play to get things looking right.

 

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Now for the part that goes vroom! Six parts for the engine bloc alone, front, rear, sides, oil pan and head cover. This is one of those steps where the instructions could have been a little more helpful. The exploded cad drawing does little to advise the builder of the order in which the parts should be assembled. As it turned out, through dry-fit trial and error, it works if you join the front page and one side, followed by the back and then the remaining side. After that, the oil pan can be added, which should square everything up before adding the head cover. I have added the transmission, but I won't complete the engine assembly at this time. I have left a number of detail parts off to paint them separately. 

 

So that's where things stand at the moment.  This kit is way up there on the detail level. The fit of the parts is good, although the instructions are not the greatest, as I noted above. Some of the parts seem to suffer from an excess of sprue gates, so cleaning them up can be a bit of a chore. Also, there seems to be no sense in the part layout on the sprues. The front axle use parts off three different sprues, for example, and given the large number of sprues in the kit, it feels a little like 52-card pickup trying to to locate all the parts needed for the next step in the instructions!

 

Next up is some cab assembly, so there might be something vaguely truck-like for my next update.

 

Thanks, everyone for your likes!

 

Andy

 

 

 

Edited by realworkingsailor

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, realworkingsailor said:

I picked up the Tamiya 15 pounder

 

I think you mean the 25 pdr?  I did that one as a kid -- thinking about it made me realize how long some of the Tamiya kits have been around. 🤔

Chris Coyle

Greer, South Carolina
When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco

Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Vought SB2U Vindicator

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, ccoyle said:

 

I think you mean the 25 pdr?  I did that one as a kid -- thinking about it made me realize how long some of the Tamiya kits have been around. 🤔

Yeah... 25 pdr... silly fingers.... 🤪

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

Aaaand, we’re on pause….

 

I was beginning to work on the first cab parts, and I noticed that areas of the cab floor part looked a little… well… melty…

Comparing the part to the diagram in the instructions, looks like I have a short shot… 

 

Looks like Airfix is not the only company to suffer QC issues…

 

Time to put IBG’s customer service to the test. Hopefully they can send me a replacement part, but with the postal strike, who knows when it might show up… sigh…

 

Andy

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

hello Andy...........thought I'd pop in and see what your doing :)   while I keep telling myself I should invest in armor kits, I seem to keep buying war ships, cars and planes.  I agree with your view of the molds that make these kits........some have been passed around so much.  the 1:72 stuka dive bomber is a good example.  I believe the molds started out with Fujimi {hope I spelt it right}, and through the years, past hands to at least four other model manufacturers.  the amount of flash is a good indicator as to how old a mold is.  too much and they get retooled.  some are different subjects, but are the same kit.  cars do it too..........look at the older models and you'll see it.  great job so far............I'm keen to follow :) 

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

Posted
1 hour ago, popeye the sailor said:

hello Andy...........thought I'd pop in and see what your doing :)   while I keep telling myself I should invest in armor kits, I seem to keep buying war ships, cars and planes.  I agree with your view of the molds that make these kits........some have been passed around so much.  the 1:72 stuka dive bomber is a good example.  I believe the molds started out with Fujimi {hope I spelt it right}, and through the years, past hands to at least four other model manufacturers.  the amount of flash is a good indicator as to how old a mold is.  too much and they get retooled.  some are different subjects, but are the same kit.  cars do it too..........look at the older models and you'll see it.  great job so far............I'm keen to follow :) 


Good to see you back hanging around this quaint little part of the internet! You gotta love the peace and quiet! 
 

I think in the grand scheme of things, even though it’s showing its age, Tamiya have taken good care of their old toolings. 
 

The IBG kit, on the other hand, is light years ahead in terms of the level of detail. Some of the parts are incredibly fine in cross section. The body and fender panels are about as close to scale thickness as you can reasonably expect to get using injection moulded plastic. It remains to be seen how robust these toolings will be in the long run. 
 

I think that’s probably why I ended up with the short shot on the cab floor part, so thin that the plastic cooled too quickly before it could fill all of the mould cavities. 
 

Anyway, welcome back!
 

Andy

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

Ok, so things aren't totally paused. I was able to move forward with some other parts of the build while I wait for the replacement cab parts to arrive.

 

Following the cab assembly (which I have skipped for now), the next part of the build involves building up the chassis. Other than brake lines and electrical cabling, I don't think IBG missed very much in terms of details.

 

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I didn't take any photos of the sub-assemblies as that would have gotten very tedious. The chassis starts with the assembly of the right frame rails, followed by the left. The rails are the correct "C" channel and include a multitude of added on details. The only moulded on details are the rear leaf spring brackets and the front spring stops.

 

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The frames are brought together with two crossmembers at the rear, a plate to which the transfer case will later attach, the front radiator support, the rear hitch spring and front bumper. A little care is needed to make sure everything stays square, but by and large assembly was fairly straight forward. If I had to do it again, I would leave off the steering gear box and front bumper so the frame could be placed, inverted, on a flat surface during assembly, this would have made it easier to keep things square, and then added these components afterwards.

 

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The front axle was added next. All the appropriate linkages for the steering are included, and everything lined up as it was supposed to. Im assuming the other linkage is the shock absorber. 

 

A quick word of note, the plastic has that distinct reddish tinge as it is quite sunny today, and the roll-down awnings on my house are bright red canvas. In reality the plastic is a medium grey colour.

 

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After the front axle, I then tackled the transfer case. This is partially glued to the support plate, and partially to an "L" shaped PE bracket. This was followed by the rear axle and shock absorbers and finally the drive shafts to connect everything together.

 

I can probably keep going with a few more bits before I will really have to stop. I can begin to tackle the cargo bed, and the modifications I need to do to change it from personnel to FFW. Still missing the radio details, though as the postal strike has kiboshed a lot of things, but I can scratch build the various compartments and the support tables etc.

 

Thanks to everyone who has posted a comment or clicked a "like"!

 

Andy

Quando Omni Flunkus, Moritati


Current Build:

USF Confederacy

 

 

Posted

And here I thought  A. you had used a pink primer or B. It was pink for breast cancer awareness during October.

 

Your build looks good.

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section

 

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