HMS Greyhound by Old Collingwood - Corel

[Old Collingwood]

34 minutes ago, amateur said:

No plastic, no PE, no airbrush.

Don't you feel a bit off your feet  ?

 

Jan

Yep it is different from plastic  mind you I started wood projects before plastic on here,  I love both in thier different ways.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

More work continued today in two stages, first  I sanded down the top section of the wale as I built it in several pieces,  then I had to drill through for the run outs, next I went through the holes with a 2mm square file and carefully opened up the ports.

Next  I shaped the end near the beak head end of the next section of wale (a complete length this time) and put this end in boling water to soften ready for bending, after a few hours I was able to pin the  beak head end then working from bow to stern I ran a length of pins holding the wale in place till set.

 

I also ran a pencil line above the wale to match what I had done on the other side(acting as a visual extension of the wale).

 

Here are the pics folks.

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

looks very nice OC........given the problems your having with your hands,  your producing some top notch work      did you find something to combat the effects?  glad to see your doing better.   

[Old Collingwood]

More progress today,  I removed the pins from the bottom edge of the wale, then after a light sanding,    It  was ready to paint flat black like the other side,    I applied several light coats drying with a hairdryer between each.

 

Photo shows the current progress.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

On 22/11/2017 at 4:52 PM, popeye the sailor said:

looks very nice OC........given the problems your having with your hands,  your producing some top notch work      did you find something to combat the effects?  glad to see your doing better.   

Thank you for your kind words,  I am finding the larger scale and lack of tiny-tiny parts on my Warspite, easier to cope with and less stressful on my hands, my fingers were tending to lock with all the small details  but wood even at 1/100 scale does seem less painful to work with.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

I took a deep breath and started work on the lower hull planking today,  first I used one of the thinner planks and lay it over the ribs to get natural line then marked the line with a pencil,  I decided to break the run of the plank into three sections  to aid placing and glueing, I discovered that the plank closest to the wale just needed thinning nearest the bow to avoid bending the plank, I did this by just cutting a slight amount of the top of the plank nearest the bow, I cut the plank back to the third rib and placed it in hot water to soften to aid bending, this took about two hours then with enough pva and pins I got it placed, I continued with the second and longest plank that just sat next to the first one without any manipulation just glue and pins, the third one needed to be shaped to meet the rear section,  so again it was placed in hot water for a couple of hours, then when it was plyable I got a slight shape to it and glued and pinned.

I then decided as I was on a roll that I would have a go at the other end of the hull planking closest to the keel planks I had fitted a few years ago,  again I ran a thin plank to get a natural line and marked this with a pencil, this showed that I would need a dropped plank at both ends,  again I decided to split the run into three sections, the middle (longest section) was fitted first - no need for soaking with this one just glue and pinned,  next I soaked the mid - rudder plank and after getting some shape with it, I placed it against the middle plank,  third and final plank was  sanded and soaked  to fit, then again glue and pins and left over night to dry.

 

This is where I am at the moment folks.

[popeye the sailor]

you may need a stealer at the stern,  but you will need to taper at the bow.  then you can raise the plank and have room for the rest of the bow planking.   you'll likely end up tapering them all.   starting from the bulwarks,  you can do full planks until you get to the wales......but then it starts to get dicey......that's when the 'turn' begins.   at that point,  all the tapering will occur at the top of the plank.  from the keel {the way your doing it now},  the tapering will need to be done on the bottom edge of the planking.   lay your planking and you'll see just how much you'll need to trim them.    if you plan it right,  you won't have to use anything at the bow......stealers or jogging.

 

hope this helps you.

[Old Collingwood]

6 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

you may need a stealer at the stern,  but you will need to taper at the bow.  then you can raise the plank and have room for the rest of the bow planking.   you'll likely end up tapering them all.   starting from the bulwarks,  you can do full planks until you get to the wales......but then it starts to get dicey......that's when the 'turn' begins.   at that point,  all the tapering will occur at the top of the plank.  from the keel {the way your doing it now},  the tapering will need to be done on the bottom edge of the planking.   lay your planking and you'll see just how much you'll need to trim them.    if you plan it right,  you won't have to use anything at the bow......stealers or jogging.

 

hope this helps you.

Hi there,   many thanks for all that,     kind of what I was thinking - I was going to work from the keel upwards, each row at a time letting the planks follow the line upwards towards the bow and stern in  a natural flow,  (to me it looks like an eye shape where they leave a gap in the middle to be planked) I was going to continue till the center towards the  single plank below the wale is planked, then add any dropped or stealer planks.

Hope this makes sense.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

More work on the lower hull planking today,  I decided to try the idea of working from the keel in rows upwards, till I meet the plank below the wale, it just took a little plank bending at both the bow and stern, but the middle section went on dry with no adjustment.

 

Here are the pics -

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Hi folks more work on  the bench(table) today,  I started by removing the pins holding the last  planks glued, after doing this and checking the joints, I sanded them flush with the other ones,  then I decided to have a go at some dropped planks - this was a time consuming job measuring and checking then sanding,  measuring and checking then sanding, then one by one I did three out of the four so far to be done.

 

Here are the pics folks.

 

OC.

[cog]

If this planking is not your definite layer, you need not be very accurate. A smooth finish would do, the run of the planks is less important. like this

The final layer defines the look and feel of the hull in the end. If the final layer, you will have some steelers e.a. to make

[Old Collingwood]

30 minutes ago, cog said:

If this planking is not your definite layer, you need not be very accurate. A smooth finish would do, the run of the planks is less important. like this

The final layer defines the look and feel of the hull in the end. If the final layer, you will have some steelers e.a. to make

Hi there,  no its my first planking,  I thought it would be a good tool towards the second planking keeping it as tidy and experience towards the second planking, getting a feel for the flow of the boat and how her profile goes with the planks.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

Goodmorning/evening/day folks,   not much work over the past 24 hrs we had some house types issues that kept me away from the bench,  I will be back on her tomorrow, with a keen eagerness.

 

Folks I have a question and really hope someone can help please,  I am without any cannons/carriages for my build and I have looked through the normal parts sites like Cornwall Model Boats - checking out the different companies, Corel, mantua  etc etc, but so far I can not find any 9pdr small 1/100 scale period cannons and carriages, for my build.

Can anyone help with this please.

 

OC.

[donrobinson]

Chuck at Syren carries cannons and carriages, he may have something to help you with.

[Old Collingwood]

47 minutes ago, donrobinson said:

Chuck at Syren carries cannons and carriages, he may have something to help you with.

Thank you don,  I will give him a shout and say you mentioned him.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

11 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Thank you don,  I will give him a shout and say you mentioned him.

 

OC.

I cant get passed that catcha security thing on syrens site, can anyone help me get to chuck please.

 

OC.

[donrobinson]

I was just there and didn't have that happen to me. Did you go to the home page here and click on the link?

Edited November 29, 2017 by donrobinson

[Old Collingwood]

1 minute ago, donrobinson said:

I was just there and didn't have that happen to me. Did you go to the home page here and click on the link?

Yep then clicked on the contact option where I had to leave my email address and irequest, then one of those security things popped up to proove your human - the normal catcha things with pictures you have to tick several times before you can send the contact request, I tried about five times then I was timed out.

 

OC.

[donrobinson]

I've failed those more than once too. You could always send him a pm and explain what is going on

[Old Collingwood]

1 minute ago, donrobinson said:

I've failed those more than once too. You could always send him a pm and explain what is going on

Is he on here then?

 

OC.

[donrobinson]

Yes he is, he is one of the admins

[Old Collingwood]

2 minutes ago, donrobinson said:

Yes he is, he is one of the admins

Than you don for all your help  much appreciated

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

10 minutes ago, donrobinson said:

Yes he is, he is one of the admins

Found chuck  Pm sent   again many thanks don.

 

OC.

[cog]

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[Old Collingwood]

I managed to get in a few hours on the build today, generally making a lot of wood dust in the house (as it was dark outside) Mrs OC was not too impressed  - dogs house emoticon springs to mind.

Anyway after the dust had settled - no pun intended, I  did a final bit of fine filling with my curved needle files, towards the rear as I had to curve a plank that sits at an akward angle, I also tidied up the bow.

 

Here are a few pics folks.

 

OC.

[popeye the sailor]

looking good OC..........more tapering at the bow,  coming up from the keel,  would have saved you from reaching the upper planking so soon.   you'll still be able to close up nicely,  and should cover well with either paint or copper  

[zappto]

Hello. Al seems done very neat and looks great. Do you plan to paint the hull? Keep good work!

[Old Collingwood]

3 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

looking good OC..........more tapering at the bow,  coming up from the keel,  would have saved you from reaching the upper planking so soon.   you'll still be able to close up nicely,  and should cover well with either paint or copper  

Thank you my friend,  thankfully thats just the first planking, I have another lot to go ontop of that, then the lower hull will be painted dull white up to the water line.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

15 minutes ago, zappto said:

Hello. Al seems done very neat and looks great. Do you plan to paint the hull? Keep good work!

Thank you kindly,   yep there will be another set of planking to go on, then I will be painting her to the waterline in flat white.

 

OC.

[Old Collingwood]

A bit more work this evening - getting there I think.

 

OC.