cog Posted October 6, 2017 #151 Posted October 6, 2017 Nice work Marcus. Does Schmincke has retailers in the US. I got mine from here,and Germany, the latter cheaper than from the Netherlands. Like the brightness of them, very clear colours, and practical bottles with a pipet Elijah, flying_dutchman2, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted October 8, 2017 #152 Posted October 8, 2017 Hi Marcus Wow, what a little beauty! I love the hull and the blunt bow. It certainly looks different from the normal types of hulls with shapely entries that we see. All the best. Patrick cog, flying_dutchman2, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 9, 2017 Author #153 Posted October 9, 2017 Thanks for all the likes. Saturday I went shopping for paint. I was going to get all from Golden Acrylics, but that was out of my price range ($11.00-21.00). Even Lukas and Schmincke were very pricey ($8.00-16.00). So in Hobby Lobby I compared the pricey colors with colors from Hobby Lobby 's own colors - Master's Touch - and got those ($4.00). Same name, same color but cheaper. Then went to Michael's and did the same process. These colors are from Liquitex - Basics ($3.50). One color from Grumbacher ($4.27). Only one pricey color - Prussian blue - from Liquitex professional ($8.70). I painted all the colors on a piece of wood. They all go on thick and I can't tell the difference between pricey and cheap. The Golden Acrylics I do have I got cheap a few years ago. The cheap colors are 4 oz. and pricey ones are 2 oz. My list of paint is as follows: Prussian blue Mars black Phthalocyanine blue Cobalt blue Yellow ochre Raw sienna Chrome oxide green Cadmium red deep Cadmium red medium Flat white (still need to get) So far I painted the wales Mars black. Furthermore, I took a tip from Ed Tosti on glue. Mixed white Elmer's glue with brown paint. He uses pigment powder. Results are the same. So now when I glue the deck planks they already have a dark line between them. Marcus cog, mtaylor, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 9, 2017 #154 Posted October 9, 2017 AS far as I can see it will be brush work ... no airbrush ...? Elijah, flying_dutchman2, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 9, 2017 Author #155 Posted October 9, 2017 4 hours ago, cog said: AS far as I can see it will be brush work ... no airbrush ...? Yes and I don't do air brush. I don't have the equipment. Maybe one day. Part of the hull will be white and will use a can for that. The cat boat was done with cans. I am pretty good with the brush, I have more control. Marcus mtaylor, Piet, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 11, 2017 Author #156 Posted October 11, 2017 Thanks for the likes. After looking through numerous books, models and not finding how planking is done in the Dutch Golden age decided to do the second layer of planking like the replica of the Utrecht. The book from Hoving and Emke show how it is done. Joints are called 'nibbed scarph joint'. Painted the pavilion front, stovepipes and the skylights. The little blue pieces on the dowels go on the pavilion. Making the window frames (1mm square dowel basswood). I have made all the frames like this. Piet, Omega1234, YankeeD and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 17, 2017 Author #157 Posted October 17, 2017 Window are made and painted white and the frames are made of 1mm square dowel and painted yellow ochre. I enjoy making the little items. Also when I am not making the small items I am working on the second layer of planking on the boat, a tedious process as the wood needs to be exact, especially on the bow. Marcus Elijah, Piet, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 19, 2017 Author #158 Posted October 19, 2017 Next project is unconventional as I drilled holes in the hull next to the first layer of planking. Put toothpicks in the holes and took 2 pieces of moist wood (6mm x 1mm) and bend it around them. Pushed the wood down so it would follow the curve of the upper wale. Then used clamps and scrap wood to hold it down. Marcus CaptainSteve, Baker, Piet and 6 others 9 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 20, 2017 #159 Posted October 20, 2017 Another clamp forrest. I like the toothpick idea! Omega1234, Piet, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 20, 2017 Author #160 Posted October 20, 2017 10 hours ago, cog said: Another clamp forrest. I like the toothpick idea! 'clamp forrest'? I like that. I will make holes in the deck as well by lining them up with the hull. Glue tooth picks or beech dowels in the holes. Glue one strip of wood on the inside of the dowel and one strip on the outside and fill the space between the strips with scrap wood. Cover the top and voila, I have a solid railing. That is the plan. But things can change. Marcus Elijah, cog, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 23, 2017 Author #161 Posted October 23, 2017 Some more planking and I let the planks go naturally, no forcing, that means I have to install lots of stealers. Planking the bow is difficult. If it wasn't so bluff this would be so much easier. I've done several bluff bows so with every boat it gets easier. The masking tape is to hold the wet planks in place. Went to hobby lobby and bought 1 pound of Super Sculpey. Started playing around with it. Marcus cog, Piet, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 24, 2017 Author #162 Posted October 24, 2017 Got a little tired of all the planking so I started preliminary work on a Boyer which is one of the boats from 17th century Dutch merchant ships from Hoving & Emke. Scale 1:48. The hull is 51 cm long. At this scale I can add lots of details. The Stern looks a bit like a fluit and it has a bluff bow. Nice practice for when I want to build a fluit. Xeroxed the plans and going to look for wood in my wood pile. Once I get going I will start a new thread. Back to planking of the Utrecht. Marcus. cog, mtaylor, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 24, 2017 Author #163 Posted October 24, 2017 Put the pavilion windows together, the frames are titanium white and the frames are yellow ochre. Besides a few minute paint touch ups they are done. In Dutch this is what is called 'priegel werk' (sp.) Marcus mtaylor, Piet, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 25, 2017 Author #164 Posted October 25, 2017 Pavilion windows: This was a difficult project. I used sculpey clay to set the window frames in, aligning the sides. After lots of trail and error, redoing the clay and measuring the length and width of all three frames together, I was able to get it close. Used bits of clay on the top as well to keep it aligned. Used white glue on the inside. Once dried and removed from the clay I can sand them a bit and touch up the paint. I have seen other models on other sites of the way the windows are positioned and they are all straight where as I have them on an angle and slightly bend forward to follow the contour of the pavilion wall. Maybe overkill. Marcus Omega1234, cog, archjofo and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 25, 2017 #165 Posted October 25, 2017 Overkill or not, it looks very good, Marcus Omega1234, Piet, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 25, 2017 Author #166 Posted October 25, 2017 45 minutes ago, cog said: Overkill or not, it looks very good, Marcus Thanks Carl. Finished the second layer of planking. I am pretty satisfied with it. Planking flows nicely towards the back and the bluff bow looks good as well. The will sand it tomorrow, and upload some pictures. Still haven't done any serious carving. I keep procrastinating on this, but will eventually have to do it. Marcus Omega1234, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 26, 2017 Author #167 Posted October 26, 2017 Finished 2nd layer of planking. Still needs to be sanded. The blue tape is to protect the planking on the back of the keel Also a dry set up of how the pavilion windows are placed. Here I use balsa as a template. Marcus mtaylor, Robin Lous, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Omega1234 Posted October 28, 2017 #168 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) Hi Marcus Nice progress on the hull. A nice round of applause for the windows, too. They look great! Cheers. Patrick Edited October 28, 2017 by Omega1234 cog, Piet, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 28, 2017 Author #169 Posted October 28, 2017 (edited) 19 hours ago, Omega1234 said: Hi Marcus Nice progress on the hull. A nice round of applause for the windows, too. They look great! Cheers. Patrick Thank you for the compliment , Patrick (this coming from the king of itty-bitty scale models). Marcus Edited October 28, 2017 by flying_dutchman2 Add Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Omega1234 Posted October 29, 2017 #170 Posted October 29, 2017 Thanks Marcus Piet, flying_dutchman2, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 30, 2017 Author #171 Posted October 30, 2017 Finished the rudder and the post. Used cherry wood for both items and the brass pintels were attached with stainless steel insect pins cut to 3 mm in length. Glued the pintels with CA on the rudder and post, once dry, used a drill bit #79 (0.0145") to drill holes through the brass and partially through the wood. Then pressed the pins in. The pins are strong and they are great for this. Marcus Elijah, Piet, Geoff Matson and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted October 31, 2017 #172 Posted October 31, 2017 Very nice crisp work Marcus mtaylor, Elijah, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted October 31, 2017 Author #173 Posted October 31, 2017 7 hours ago, cog said: Very nice crisp work Marcus Thanks Carl. Omega1234, mtaylor, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Piet Posted November 1, 2017 #174 Posted November 1, 2017 Nice idea about the clay as a holding device for those odd shaped parts Marcus. She's coming along great. Cheers, Elijah, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
cog Posted November 1, 2017 #175 Posted November 1, 2017 Clay will dry out ... you could use Blue Tack (use it to hold small parts when I need to airbrush them) a kind of putty Elijah, Omega1234, flying_dutchman2 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 1, 2017 Author #176 Posted November 1, 2017 It is starting to look like a boat. Glued the stem, keel and post. Also drilled two holes for the stand. I will be using two pieces of brass tubing of equal length. I may cover the tubing with wood. Marcus Piet, mtaylor, Elijah and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Elijah Posted November 1, 2017 #177 Posted November 1, 2017 Looking very nice Marc! I like the rudder and pintles, they are nice! Piet, Omega1234, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote -Elijah Current build(s): Continental Gunboat Philadelphia by Model Shipways https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15753-continental-gunboat-philadelphia-by-elijah-model-shipways-124-scale/ Completed build(s): Model Shipways Phantom http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?showtopic=12376 Member of: The Nautical Research Guild N.R.M.S.S. (Nautical Research and Model Ship Society)
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 2, 2017 Author #178 Posted November 2, 2017 I had to rethink the railing. First time I soaked 2x6mm walnut and tried to bend it along the curve of the boat and ended up with a clamp forrest (Cog's definition). After the planks were dry they didn't keep their curve. So this morning pulled out the saw and cut 2x2mm strips from Poplar _ Tulip tree, to be exact. Made a lot of these as I am bound to break a few. For the Utrecht I have been using a lot of Poplar. It has good bending characteristics, especially for bluff bows and it is cheap. Marcus Elijah, Omega1234, Piet and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted November 2, 2017 #179 Posted November 2, 2017 Walnut is a b*tch to bend, even wet. You have to bend it further than the required bend to have it come close to the curvature you want. I had the same problem on the Dolphyn Omega1234, Piet, Elijah and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 5, 2017 Author #180 Posted November 5, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 4:29 PM, cog said: Walnut is a b*tch to bend, even wet. You have to bend it further than the required bend to have it come close to the curvature you want. I had the same problem on the Dolphyn I was going to use the walnut as it is the correct width (6mm ) plus a 2mm square dowel to make a total of 8 mm high railing. I am now going to use 4 x 2mm strips and veneer it on both sides. It will be painted Prussian blue. I can also pin down the walnut with the smallest insect pins I have and glue a 2 x 2mm strip on top of it. I have so much walnut in my possession. Marcus cog, mtaylor, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
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