Rich.F Posted April 9, 2015 Author #211 Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. I Did have a Picture before the Cannon Balls and Painting.. Bloody SD card on the phone has come corrupt. Used a Fridge Magnet to stock pile the cannon balls. Edited April 9, 2015 by Rich.f src, Sjors, robert22564 and 1 other 4 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
Rich.F Posted April 12, 2015 Author #212 Posted April 12, 2015 Today. Nice sunny day, ( in the UK) I fine sanded the Port Side Hull and Spayed it copper. After a few hours of other ship duties and part building, I sat down to start the copper tiles... And this happend>> Any Suggestions< ? Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
src Posted April 12, 2015 #213 Posted April 12, 2015 Rich, That is extremely unfortunate!!! Was that a water based paint? It looks like the wood swelled on you. I am assuming its the same paint you used on the other side, what did you do different? Maybe let it sit overnight and see what it does? If it stays like that it looks like you're re-sanding unfortunately. Hopefully somebody has a better suggestion. Sam Current Build Constructo Enterprise
peterwwebster Posted April 13, 2015 #214 Posted April 13, 2015 Hi Rich What a shame. It certainly looks like the wood has swollen with water from the paint. Looks like a rub down and fill job. I know its a bit late but when I did mine hull i primed it with Dulux acrylic primer first so as to seal the filler and minor gaps and rubbed it down ready to paint. I think that would be a way forward. This ship building is supposed to be fun but sometimes I do wonder. It will all be OK in the end and nobody will know about the trouble you had (Except us fellow sufferers) src 1 Caldercraft Victory
Rich.F Posted April 13, 2015 Author #215 Posted April 13, 2015 Hi guys, Not sure if it was water base paint.. the hull was primed with while paint first.. bloody frustrating. oh well. Is it worth coving the hull in pva, sand and fill. Then resand?? Davecobb 1 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
peterwwebster Posted April 15, 2015 #216 Posted April 15, 2015 Is it possible that the planks have curled across their width? That would suggest the wood was too wet for too long and the wood absorbed the water and swelled the grain unevenly hence the curl it could have been damp timber where was it stored ? I would try PVA brushed into the cracks which should get into the cracks and stick them to the first layer of planking. When dry apply a watered down coat over alI. Then I would fill it and sand it and apply an acrylic primer and rub that down and re prime until you are happy with the finish. It all gets cover in tiles so it doesn't matter what it looks like. Davecobb 1 Caldercraft Victory
Shipyard sid Posted April 15, 2015 #217 Posted April 15, 2015 Greetings Rich Yep that's the simplest way to sort it. Brush in pva, and sand it. There is no need at all to put primer on the hull. Good luck .DAVID
robert22564 Posted April 15, 2015 #218 Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Good luck with it Rich. you can sort it and be back on track in no time Edited April 15, 2015 by robert22564 Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Rich.F Posted April 17, 2015 Author #219 Posted April 17, 2015 Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. I have PVA/Wood Glue, the hull, tonight i'm going to sand it, then fill it. I have finished for now, the upper gun fixings and the steps to the lower deck. I'm not going to add these until i have finished the hull copper plating. Sjors and src 2 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
peterwwebster Posted April 17, 2015 #220 Posted April 17, 2015 I still think its worth painting the hull in copper so the white doesn't show through the inevitable gaps in the tiling so a coat of primer will hopefully stop any mote absorption and give a base for the copper paint src and Rich.F 2 Caldercraft Victory
Rich.F Posted April 19, 2015 Author #221 Posted April 19, 2015 Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. After gluing the hull, filling sanding and repainting> I have tarted the copper plates, and I must say they have gone on with ease, probably because I know how to fit them, need more practice mind you.. From the center out 10 tiles each way. peterwwebster, Shipyard sid, robert22564 and 5 others 8 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
peterwwebster Posted April 19, 2015 #222 Posted April 19, 2015 Looks good to me Rich well done Caldercraft Victory
maggsl_01 Posted April 21, 2015 #223 Posted April 21, 2015 Hi I've never done this coppering... but it Looks very good. Perhaps I will dare some day to build a model with a coppered hull... Go on this way - its very nice Cheerio Max Next: Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde by Euro Model 1:47 Finished: Half Moon Corel; HMY Royal Caroline Panart; HMB Endeavour Occre 1:54; Fregatte Berlin, Corel, 1:40 A life without dogs is possible... but worth to live?
Rich.F Posted April 21, 2015 Author #224 Posted April 21, 2015 Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. Hi Max, Thanks for stopping by, I have had fun with the copper plates and I really don't want to do it again... Its been a challenge maggsl_01 1 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
src Posted April 21, 2015 #225 Posted April 21, 2015 Look real good Rich. Next time you come to the States the copper behind my stove needs to be done. maggsl_01 1 Current Build Constructo Enterprise
Rich.F Posted April 21, 2015 Author #226 Posted April 21, 2015 HI Sam, Sure ill jump on the next flight........ wait... Lost my ticket sorry!! src 1 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
Rich.F Posted April 26, 2015 Author #227 Posted April 26, 2015 Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. I have Run out of copper ties this is due to the problems at the start so ill up dat again soon when they have arrived and made more progress. Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
src Posted April 26, 2015 #228 Posted April 26, 2015 Rich crack the whip on those delivery gnomes or else you're build may take as long as my enterprise:) Sam Current Build Constructo Enterprise
Rich.F Posted May 2, 2015 Author #229 Posted May 2, 2015 Hello All, Thanks for the comments and Likes, as always very much appreciated. Well Progress has been rather rapid this week and I Must say, I have taken a bit not note from Roberts Log, ((Thanks)) LOL Every thing also just slipped in to place, To the point I am at the point to I rip off the side I have completed and do it the same as I am doing. The cost of 1500 tiles are about £40. ($60). But Not sure.. time will tell.. mort stoll, src and Sjors 3 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
src Posted May 2, 2015 #230 Posted May 2, 2015 Looks great Rich! Me likey! Sam Rich.F 1 Current Build Constructo Enterprise
peterwwebster Posted May 3, 2015 #231 Posted May 3, 2015 That look very very good rich. Talk about perseverance, Well done. Caldercraft Victory
robert22564 Posted May 3, 2015 #232 Posted May 3, 2015 Yep, new you'll sort it Rich......well done Current Build - HMS Victory - Caldercraft - scale 1:72
Rich.F Posted May 3, 2015 Author #233 Posted May 3, 2015 Thanks Guys. Need about 300 more tiles to complete this side.. Almost done Ill upload Picture Monday. Still Unsure if to redo starboard side? Hmm.. Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
Sjors Posted May 4, 2015 #234 Posted May 4, 2015 Rich, I try to find out what is wrong but I can not see it ! It looks great ! And don't forget, when the hull is done, you have to look at the total pictures when she is on the standard...... Sjors src 1 Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Rich.F Posted May 9, 2015 Author #235 Posted May 9, 2015 Just a small update. port side hull finished, Now just need to clean it up a little. Any ideas on how to sharpen up the finished Water line? peterwwebster 1 Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
src Posted May 9, 2015 #236 Posted May 9, 2015 Looks great Rich, whats wrong with the water line? Sam Current Build Constructo Enterprise
Tallshiptragic Posted May 9, 2015 #237 Posted May 9, 2015 A very thin strip to cover the very top of the plating painted black. I've attached a picture of the has trincomalee where you can see it clearly. I added this to my HMS Diana model also and just finishes it off. Then if there are any small gaps between the plates just touch up with a bit of copper paint. dafi and Shipyard sid 2 Anton T Current build 1/78 Sovereign of the Seas - Sergal - kit bashed 1/72 Arleigh Burke class DDG flight iia/iii - Sratch built RC - no log Waiting for further inspiration STS Leeuwin II 1/56 scratch built (90% completed) Previous builds - completed 1/72 HMAS Brisbane, Airwarfare Destroyer 2014 -Scratch built RC - completed 1/64 HMS Diana 1796 - caldercraft kit - completed 1/75 Friesland 1668- mamoli kit - completed 1/96 HMAS Newcastle FFG 2011- scratch built RC - completed 1/75 Vasa - Billing Boats - completed
Rich.F Posted May 9, 2015 Author #238 Posted May 9, 2015 Hi Guys, Sam, Just wanted to have a sharper line, Anton, Thanks very much for that. I think I have read do that somewhere before. I have a few Ideas running around the head now! Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
Rich.F Posted May 9, 2015 Author #239 Posted May 9, 2015 What about using L shape profile.? Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution
dafi Posted May 9, 2015 #240 Posted May 9, 2015 Keep it simple :-) #53 Great work you do. Cheers, Daniel src 1 To victory and beyond! http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/76-hms-victory-by-dafi-to-victory-and-beyond/ See also our german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling and History: http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/ Finest etch parts for HMS Victory 1:100 (Heller Kit), USS Constitution 1:96 (Revell) and other useful bits. http://dafinismus.de/index_en.html
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