Spanish Galleon 1607 by kirill4 - FINISHED - Lee - 1:100 - PLASTIC

[kirill4]

Hello everyone,

Dear friends,let me introduce   my model of Spanish galleon 1607 building log(actually I'd like to position it as galleon of Great Armada, so instead of maker name Spanish galleon 1607,I call it  Spanish galleon 1588  )

I've started to assemble this model long time ago- 2009,due to lack of time building goes extremely slowly, can do it 2-3 month per year , and only during this "season ",last two months I finally reached "rigging" and started rigging spritsail  ...for me it is most interesting part of this kit assembling!

During assembling hull,in the begining,  I used ordinary (not spesial for plastic models painting) acrylic paints and dry artist pastel for making tone/aging...later on,during masts and spars painting I started to use acrylic paint "folk arts" as well...

Some additions which I made for this model,I've made from plastic telephone cards,paper,and various plastic remains which I could find , like a food container etc...

For rigging I use ordinary polyester thread Gutermann,actually this not a good choice ,due to their wrong appearance and with my next project I plan to buy or fabricate by myself   some kind of rope making machine

On the fotoes You can see progress of this model building since the time when hull was assembled and generally painted ,than I decided to add some sturn decoration ,and to make some more small additions....

Rigging plan I've made my own due to kit rigging plan I consider as too primitive and not accurate, rigging plan I've tried to develope using  book " The rigging of ships. In the days of the Spritsail topmast 1600-1720 - Anderson" ,Peter Kirsch "The Galleon the great ships of the armada era" and information which I could foun in the famous book "The Royal Warship Vasa"

I guess I've made not too much  mistakes in my rigging plan, anyway this was only plan which I have...so pls consider it like my interpretation of Spanish galleon rigging

Remaining parts of rigging and sails will be done during next couple of years(during my vacations)...

Recently I've found this forum and was very much impressed by models and modellers...great and wonderfull models I want to say!

I will be very appreciate for your comments and corrections where and what I did  wrong...it is a little bit sad ?that I found this forum too late ,when hull is completed...bu OK...rigging still in progress

Probably soon I'll be need to stop building till september-october...if it will happened?than see all of you in autumn

All the best

[kirill4]

continue,

this part of building of 2011 some preparation for rigging

[kirill4]

in this part I wanted to fabricate ship's bell - plastic+paiting

[hexnut]

Wow. excellent work!  I think if anyone asks how to paint a plastic ship, we can just show your presentation and say: "make it look like this."

[kirill4]

in this part I tried to add some sturn decoration,,,not sure it is suitable for spanish galleon of 1588,but from other side we can see that in the first part of 17 century already aft part of the ship reach decorated...so why not

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[kirill4]

there was problem with icon picture - actually it is ortodox style, but I need catolic style...later on it will be replaced for correct one

[kirill4]

Wow. excellent work!  I think if anyone asks how to paint a plastic ship, we can just show your presentation and say: "make it look like this."

Thanks this dry pastel make sometimes miracle...with minimum "artist" participation...let say need only water and brush

[kirill4]

Dear friends,

some facts of previous years of building,2012,this time I was busy with decoration modification...changed shape and contens(picture) of heraldic shield - spain need to be with rounded lower part and changed icon of Santissima Madre for correct one

Heraldic shield pictures I 've made on comp,printed out and clued on piece of plastic...picture of Santissima Madre I've made from couple of various images and than fitted at place

[kirill4]

Due to I was afraid of start making rigging and didn't have clear idea how to make gallion sails,  I decided to make small galleon boat with sail and to find the apropriate way for me with this sails making

this boat almost scratch build, exept hull base - it was from russian plastic kit of Gotta Predistinacia...scale was more or less suitable ...smthn abt 1:100 but even than there is no storage place on galleon deck for this boat, and I decided to place it near by ...

For sail making I used percale soaked in white wooden glue(polyvinylacetate) when it dried -it became like paper , very handy to work with

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[kirill4]

this part abt hull construction completion 

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[kirill4]

thisn is abt my "experiment " with boat sail making and rigging

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[kirill4]

Last year I've started with blocks fabrication,made them partly from liquid steel paty(forming) and partly from epoxy...frankly speaking I hate this stage because of monotonic job and nessry to fabricate huge q-ty of this blocks and dead eyes

[docidle]

Krill,

That is some amazing work not only on the ship but the ship's boat as well! Your scratch building techniques and use of recycled material is very cool. I will follow this build log with great interest as I have the same model in my stash.

Steve

[kirill4]

than I making some paint jobs and modified kit mast to make them looks more realistic

There is one wooden element added -bowsprit ,which I must to fabricate due to avoid bending when it will be loaded by fore stays...hope no more wood,exept boat mast and spar(done) will be used    

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[kirill4]

Krill,

That is some amazing work not only on the ship but the ship's boat as well! Your scratch building techniques and use of recycled material is very cool. I will follow this build log with great interest as I have the same model in my stash.

Steve

Thanks Steve,welcome! glad to see You...it is interesting for me to complete this project, You know, from historic point of vew,plastik kit of MayFlower or Golden Hind much more accurate...but this kit hull actually very funy and strange in construction   as real ship it could not sail at all due to fault and stupid hull construction but as model -nice!  

Will be nice when You start Your spanish galleon as well...I saw another plastic kit of spanish galleon by Revell 1:96 if not mistaken...but by my opinion this version of spanish galleon 1607 1:100 ,which I'm busy now , looks better,I mean as version of spanish galleon?

All the best!

K i r i l l

[kirill4]

continue with masting...there are some various artists contemporary galleons pictures wihich I reffer as samples for my models...

ps

"name"s of those pctrs are wrong,don't look on it...found that for me was very difficult to find old pictures of spanish galleon which painted by spanish artists...most of spanish galleon pictures made by duch artist...and often looks like dutch galleon

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[kirill4]

continue with masting

 

There was some problem with gammoning arrangement for me...as it should be according to Anderson...when I started making loops I lost control of this process and finaly rejected this idea...so I try to imitate how it looks like on Batavia replica

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[kirill4]

This is my own version of spanish galleon 1588 rigging...try to make it based on information frm The rigging of ships. In the days of the Spritsail topmast 1600-1720 - Anderson and Peter Kirsch "The Galleon the great ships of the armada era" galleon rigging drwng

How accurate it happened I don't know...but I try to do best of mine

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[kirill4]

this is the recent part of building... all jobs were done during last couple of months

made some preparation for fore mast and bowsprit rigging + painted all ness-ry bloks and made some ring bolts and hooks ,as sample - Duyfken replica

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[kirill4]

when sets of the blocks  were ready,

I've made supporter for main stay lower collar...I don't know if this device  exists on full size vessel,but on my model without this device stay collar rests right on the edge, so I decided to install it

than  I prepaired(serving) lower mainn stay collar...to connect both ends I did arrangements which looks like this part made on Batavia replika or De_Zeven_Provincien drwngs. Model ,at least in such way how I understood it

Final adjustment and Connection those two ends I did after installation masthead tackles

[kirill4]

than I installed fore mast tackles pendants and arrange tackles

and installed pendants on the rest of the masts

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[kirill4]

later on I had crazy idea that my galleon need waistcloth...I see this elements very often on contemporary galleon pictures...so I try to fabricate them

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[kirill4]

but for waistcloth installation it was ness-ry to make some modification-to arrange kind of railings

[kirill4]

waistcloth ,in fact, I made frm preliminary painted percale soaked in white wooden clue mixed with water, to form folds, fabric need to remains wet...

 fringe I made by unraveling lower part of waistcloth fascia

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[kirill4]

next idea was, that my galleon needs antiboarding net as well...again,on many pictures of galleon we can see that there was no free access to the main deck...often it was closed by some kind of ?gratings?...to fabricate grating -this task was too difficult for me?and I decided ta make imitation of antiboarding net,which also was in use in this period

I've made it frm garlic pakaging neilon net  of couse it was not best material,but suitable and fast founded

 

same arrangements with this net I saw on this model of flemish galleon(read spanish on that period -look at  the flags) and carvel museum model

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[kirill4]

16 february 2014 , 19:57

It was famous day for me- I clued fore mast - no possible to dismantle anymore

and fixed main stay lower collar ...and installed fish davit beam 

[dafi]

Simply a wonderful build!

 

What a wealth of details :-)

 

Love it, cheers, Daniel

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[kirill4]

Thank You Very Much Daniel,

I listen to Your wonderful building stories (first on german forum for Sailing Ship Modeling) long time and still not get tired

Thank You,cheers!

[kirill4]

Dear friends,

continue posting fotoes of previous months...

after boarding net installation I began to arrange / to fit bowsprit blocks...fore stay lower deadeye I decided to secure to bowsprit in some special way ,not by means of spliced collar and round seizing- try to imitate what I saw on Batavia replica...need smthg looks unusual ...

And one more strange thing I did,and I guess most of the people building sailing vesells models may not agree with it...

I decided don't use sling or any kind of parrel to secure/hold spritsail yard to the bowsprit, but use tie and halliards only, means, thick rope attached to bowshprit - goes through single block suspended to bowsprit- and than ended with halliard tackle near gammoning...

at least some kind of such arrangement mentioned in Anderson book, page 212 and what I could recognize as such arrangement looking at contemporary pictures

Same and really working arrangement we can see on very accurate  Duyfken replica

I think such kind of arrangement could exist till begining of the 17 century(end of galleon age) and later on, sling or parrel need to be installed and halliard arranged in different way

 

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[kirill4]

Good day everyone, 

continue with assembling report

after completion fore stay lower collar I've try to imitate fore stay load on bowsprit and met with serious problem...see...bowsprit starts moving to ps as soon as I loaded fore stay...look at the picture You can see at least two forces which are forwarded in the same direction of ps  and try to pull bowsprit to the same way...it happened due to on galleons bowsprit stays a little bit right from center line and under the angle to the center line ...so finally there is strange picture exists with this effect of bending/pulling  bowshprit to the ps ,

In this period of galleon,at least ,as I understood ,there must be no bobstays ,no bowsprit srouds,no other rigging which keep bowsprit in position exept gammoning...I did only gammoning as it should be///and have this problemm

 

...on normal   vessel ,when bowshprit locates along center line of the vessel ,static forces distributed in other way and such effect I think ,not exists...

but even than you see that on the vessel of later period , bowshprit shrouds and bobstays are in use ...and must not be installed on galleon model

 

Finaly I decided to install b-shroud only sbs   , just to hold bowsprit in position when all fore stays will be tight

 

Anybody met such problem during building your own vessel of the same period-like Half Moon or similar? and what You did to solve this problem?

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